Kmu´s in wall 400g build!!! - Page 3

budster.stig1 · 01/02/2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by biecacka

The problem I had was my pump was too big to have all the water go into one sump. I had it turned back a ton and it still didn't work. So on my new build I went with one sump. But a smaller pump would also work

Corey

Your pump was not too big for your sumps, your capacity to move the water from one to the other was under-sized. In the pictures above you will notice that I have 2) 2" lines between the sumps/refugium, well when I set it up I only had 1) 2" line and the system would not move the 2000g/hr. that my pump puts into the DT. I also move another 600g/hr. into the refugium that drains back into the return sump, so the system moves 2600g/hr. through 2" lines. IN addition I move 600g/hr. from the collector to my skimmer, then it drains to the refugium along with the 600g/hr. from the return pump, total 1200g/hr. through the fuge. Movement of any amount of water is possible if components are sized properly. The advantage to two sumps is, if sized properly they can be used as an automatic water change station by draining them both simultaneously to with-in a couple inches above the pump in-take and then closing drain and re-filling sumps with new salt water. I do 40g water changes with never turning the pump off or shutting any part of the system off. I have 55g top-off tank, 55g mix tank, and 55g supply tank plumbed to my RODI, run by pressure valve keeping at least 55g RODI on hand at all times..............................Budster

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DOGGIE750 · 01/02/2014, 02:35 PM

kmu,
on the same boat as you bro, tagging along. Research mode right now for my 400gal set up. How much did u steal those Hydras lights? please advise. Thank you.

GREAT SET UP MAN!!!

kmu · 01/02/2014, 10:08 PM

I think Im gonna go for it and do a single large sump set up, if the are any problems in the future acrylic can be welded in site thats the good thing.

I got 72" of space under the stand, should I do a 48" long sump or go for a larger 60" sump"?

This is what a 60" Long Sump would look like under the stand, I think its the best option out there

dinger28 · 01/02/2014, 11:27 PM

Definitely LOVE the 60 inch sump rather than the 48 inch. Setup looks amazing!

budster.stig1 · 01/02/2014, 11:45 PM

I would re-consider the size of the Refugium, I've got 70g stand alone Refugium and I could use more! Other than that it looks good!.................Budster

kmu · 01/07/2014, 06:00 PM

Well got the final sump drawings done and its being built right now... should move the stand, sump and tank this weekend hopefully.

Decided to go the largest possible with the refugium and divide it by 2, that way I can have chaeto on one and the other one with some live rock rubble, fish and frags!!!

The fishroom is complete

The minisplit AC, Exhaust vent, Central AC vent and room light

The view from the Kitchen

The view front the dirty front door

Newbie Aquarist · 01/08/2014, 12:11 AM

Thingsare looking good kmu. definitely a great decision on going with the 60" sump. What are the full true dimensions of the sump going to be?

kmu · 01/08/2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Newbie Aquarist

Thingsare looking good kmu. definitely a great decision on going with the 60" sump. What are the full true dimensions of the sump going to be?

The full Sump set up is 60" long, 30" wide 18" deep thats including the fresh water reservoir that is built into the sump.

Fresh water reservoir is 60" long, 10" wide, 18" tall
Drain area from tank is 8" long, 20" wide, 18" tall
Skimmer area is 20" long, 9" tall, 20" wide
Refugiums are 35" long, 10" wide, 9" tall each one
Return pump area is 8" long, 20" wide, 18" tall

Ojos22 · 01/10/2014, 10:29 AM

Love the setup and you have a beautiful home. Can't wait to see more.

lluv24 · 01/11/2014, 08:01 PM

Great build!!!!!!!!!

biecacka · 01/11/2014, 09:30 PM

Bud, thanks for that insight. I guess I never looked at it that way but it does make sense man!

Corey

kmu · 01/11/2014, 09:47 PM

Im moving in monday morning and we don't have a fish tank!!! my wife isn't happy at all with the empty wall in the middle of the house…

The Chandelier is done, will mount it next week once all the dust as settled in… we are moping the floor every day and we still get new dust by the afternoon.

biecacka · 01/12/2014, 09:22 PM

Mario, that chandelier is AWESOME!!!!
Can't wait for the tank to get in but I'm not near as excited as I'm sure you are!

Corey

jjk_reef00 · 01/13/2014, 01:21 AM

The chandelier looks amazing, and huge!
Good choice on the 60" sump. I'd go with an internal pump, many good ones to choose from.

kmu · 01/13/2014, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biecacka

Mario, that chandelier is AWESOME!!!!
Can't wait for the tank to get in but I'm not near as excited as I'm sure you are!

Corey

THX.. it took 6 months of labor to polish all antlers. Each one got sandblasted then 9 different sand papers, the amazing thins is that no detail was lost on the antlers, all the cracks and crevices are still there even after all the polishing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjk_reef00

The chandelier looks amazing, and huge!
Good choice on the 60" sump. I'd go with an internal pump, many good ones to choose from.

Yeah, I decided last minute to go with the 60" sump, and happy I did… Im gonna go with an internal pump on the sump at the beginning.

Have the Coralvue Diablo DC 10500 on mind with 2,775gph…I have always done a low flow sump on all my reef tanks and got very good results, so a single sump set up will be the way to go, now since I want it to be as efficient as possible the new DC pumps are the way to go…

kmu · 01/19/2014, 11:29 PM

Did some aquascaping today

biecacka · 01/20/2014, 08:40 PM

Awesome looking job man. I like the structures and can't wait to see it in your tank

Corey

kmu · 01/27/2014, 01:11 PM

Made a few upgrades to the fish room, added an exhaust fan and a utility zinc...

The sump is almost done, its huge!!!

kmu · 01/30/2014, 08:57 PM

The tank is in the House!!!

The Mermaid shot…

NewMariner · 01/30/2014, 10:13 PM

Beautiful....

Im curious why the cutouts on either side of the tank. It doesn't appear by the pics that the tank comes close to filling it in...yet it looks like they were built to fit around the tank...

rpjaws74 · 01/30/2014, 10:21 PM

that aquascaping is looking great..

kmu · 01/31/2014, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NewMariner

Beautiful....

Im curious why the cutouts on either side of the tank. It doesn't appear by the pics that the tank comes close to filling it in...yet it looks like they were built to fit around the tank...

I want to have access from the front to clean out the algae on the side panels with my magnet, since its 36" deep and 36" tall its impossible to do it from the back of the tank…

kmu · 01/31/2014, 08:32 PM

We got the rocks and sand in!!!

The crew that put the whole thing together

Pife · 01/31/2014, 09:47 PM

What are you going to use for flow in your tank?

danfeig · 01/31/2014, 11:25 PM

Looking great Mario!

01/02/2014, 02:35 PM	#52
DOGGIE750 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: BAY AREA CALIFORNIA Posts: 273	kmu, on the same boat as you bro, tagging along. Research mode right now for my 400gal set up. How much did u steal those Hydras lights? please advise. Thank you. GREAT SET UP MAN!!! __________________ GIXXER RULES!!!! Current Tank Info: 400reef (wip), 120fowlr (tentative), 100sump (done)...all in the making. Feature by EOY2015

01/02/2014, 10:08 PM	#53
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	I think Im gonna go for it and do a single large sump set up, if the are any problems in the future acrylic can be welded in site thats the good thing. I got 72" of space under the stand, should I do a 48" long sump or go for a larger 60" sump"? This is what a 60" Long Sump would look like under the stand, I think its the best option out there __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/02/2014, 11:45 PM	#55
budster.stig1 Broncoholic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mineola, Tx. 75773 Posts: 181	I would re-consider the size of the Refugium, I've got 70g stand alone Refugium and I could use more! Other than that it looks good!.................Budster __________________ Going to Church does not make you Righteous any more than standing in a garage makes you a car! Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it! Current Tank Info: 210g Miracles "Starphire" In-Wall, 340g total system, RO Skimmer, Maxspect Razor LED's, Mixed Reef.

01/07/2014, 06:00 PM	#56
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	Well got the final sump drawings done and its being built right now... should move the stand, sump and tank this weekend hopefully. Decided to go the largest possible with the refugium and divide it by 2, that way I can have chaeto on one and the other one with some live rock rubble, fish and frags!!! The fishroom is complete The minisplit AC, Exhaust vent, Central AC vent and room light The view from the Kitchen The view front the dirty front door __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/11/2014, 08:01 PM	#60
lluv24 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: kansas city Posts: 420	Great build!!!!!!!!! __________________ 200 Gallon Deep Deminsion, StarFire Glass, mixed reef. Apex, Mp40 QD x2 , 2 Radion Gen3 LED Lights,with Reeflink. Aqua Max Em300 skimmer, Trigger Emerald Sump, Next Reef Gfo & carb, Neptun Current Tank Info: 200 DD Mixed Reef;-)

01/02/2014, 11:27 PM	#54
dinger28 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Indian Land, SC Posts: 385	Definitely LOVE the 60 inch sump rather than the 48 inch. Setup looks amazing!

01/08/2014, 12:11 AM	#57
Newbie Aquarist Reefing is my middle name Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 5,796	Thingsare looking good kmu. definitely a great decision on going with the 60" sump. What are the full true dimensions of the sump going to be?

01/10/2014, 10:29 AM	#59
Ojos22 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 116	Love the setup and you have a beautiful home. Can't wait to see more.

01/11/2014, 09:30 PM	#61
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Bud, thanks for that insight. I guess I never looked at it that way but it does make sense man! Corey

01/11/2014, 09:47 PM	#62
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	Im moving in monday morning and we don't have a fish tank!!! my wife isn't happy at all with the empty wall in the middle of the house… The Chandelier is done, will mount it next week once all the dust as settled in… we are moping the floor every day and we still get new dust by the afternoon. __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/12/2014, 09:22 PM	#63
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Mario, that chandelier is AWESOME!!!! Can't wait for the tank to get in but I'm not near as excited as I'm sure you are! Corey

01/13/2014, 01:21 AM	#64
jjk_reef00 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,476	The chandelier looks amazing, and huge! Good choice on the 60" sump. I'd go with an internal pump, many good ones to choose from. __________________ I need more fish tank appliances! --Ed Current Tank Info: 375 FOWLR

01/19/2014, 11:29 PM	#66
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	Did some aquascaping today __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/20/2014, 08:40 PM	#67
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Awesome looking job man. I like the structures and can't wait to see it in your tank Corey

01/27/2014, 01:11 PM	#68
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	Made a few upgrades to the fish room, added an exhaust fan and a utility zinc... The sump is almost done, its huge!!! __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/30/2014, 08:57 PM	#69
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	The tank is in the House!!! The Mermaid shot… __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/30/2014, 10:13 PM	#70
NewMariner Reef Tank Aficionado Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,232	Beautiful.... Im curious why the cutouts on either side of the tank. It doesn't appear by the pics that the tank comes close to filling it in...yet it looks like they were built to fit around the tank... __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 96x36x32 Envision Acrylics Tank

01/30/2014, 10:21 PM	#71
rpjaws74 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 1,340	that aquascaping is looking great.. __________________ rpjaws Current Tank Info: 500 glln system/ Reef

01/31/2014, 08:32 PM	#73
kmu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the DESERT Posts: 3,306	We got the rocks and sand in!!! The crew that put the whole thing together __________________ Current Reef tanks In Wall 400g 1" acrylic 72x36x36 (Hydras, Marco rocks,Tunze osmolator, Vertex Alpha cone 250)

01/31/2014, 09:47 PM	#74
Pife Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 7,408	What are you going to use for flow in your tank?

01/31/2014, 11:25 PM	#75
danfeig RC Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,747 Blog Entries: 1	Looking great Mario! __________________ "A Reef Tank in The Desert +/- 1,400 Gallon System" A.G.E. Built, 12 EcoTech Radion XR30w Pro LED's, MP60's, MP40's, Deltec 3070, Genesis Renew, UV, Fluidized Sand Reactor, Ozone and much more!