Palythoa Eradication?

Salamander · 04/28/2009, 08:53 PM

Anyone have good recommendations on how to kill some palythoa? They're more resilient than any aiptasia.

I've been injecting them with kalk about once a week but they recover quick! I can't remove the rock so I need an in-tank solution.

They were one of my first corals about 7 years ago but some are now taking over a huge rock that is prime real estate for some more SPS.

Thanks!

Salamander · 04/28/2009, 10:54 PM

Bang Zoom! Back to the top!

ryan115 · 04/29/2009, 05:14 AM

Im following along on this one, I am in the same situation and have pondered on getting a cr@p load of sundial snails to take them out. Or selling them to people as angel food.

redfishsc · 04/29/2009, 05:39 AM

You could try blasting them with boiling water (turkey baster) or look for some zoa nudis (will take out other zoas though).

Run carbon in case they release palytoxin in the water.

RicksReefs · 04/29/2009, 07:18 AM

give them a name like 'super duper double chocolate eyelashes' and charge $30 a polyp.
people will voluntarily pay you to let them remove them from the tank for you...

rendogg · 04/29/2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RicksReefs
give them a name like 'super duper double chocolate eyelashes' and charge $30 a polyp.
people will voluntarily pay you to let them remove them from the tank for you...

You never know in todays "name gimmick" market, good solid idea Rick!

maroun.c · 04/29/2009, 01:48 PM

my Galaxea stings them that they stopped spraeding. yuo can see the burn effect on the polyps on the edge.

rickh · 04/29/2009, 03:15 PM

Good luck. There have been several thread lately on this subject with no solution.

I personally have tried Joe's Juice, Lemon juice, vinegar, Pickling lime, Kalk, NaOH, and some other Aptasia remedy without success.

I have learned: 1. If they are ugly and brown they grow like weeds. 2. If they are beautiful they might morph in to number one.

Rick

BrassMonkey · 04/29/2009, 05:10 PM

i trim them with a razor or coral cutters. they release a cloud when cut but i havent seen it affect any of my other coral.

bj32482 · 04/29/2009, 05:19 PM

What do they look like? I will take some if you want to share...

rickh · 04/29/2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrassMonkey
i trim them with a razor or coral cutters. they release a cloud when cut but i havent seen it affect any of my other coral.

The problem is if you leave any trace they will be back!!

kaylo · 04/29/2009, 07:06 PM

What if you just cut where you wanted them gone and putty'd over that so they don't come back? Or putty another small piece of rock over that spot so you don't have to look at the putty?

jdhuyvetter · 04/29/2009, 07:57 PM

I use a syringe and inject them with a drop or two of bleach.

Yes, I'm nuts, but it works.

Salamander · 04/29/2009, 09:19 PM

Wow! Bleach. That's too daring for me to try.

I've tried most if not all aiptasia tricks and no luck. Sounds like I'm almost out of luck.

At least they're a decent bright green color.

If I can find the right tool I might try to cut/chip the top of the rock off. Its just a large area and my 8" bone cutters probably wouldn't work too well. If I find the solution I'll let y'all know.

RicksReefs · 04/29/2009, 10:20 PM

You should be able to slide a wood chisel into the rock and under the proto's.

Salamander · 04/29/2009, 10:31 PM

A chisel could work. I just worry about tapping on it too much and damaging the tank. I'll have to see how hard the rock is. It's a pretty porous rock too so some of the palys are attached deep in some holes.

villious · 04/30/2009, 05:39 AM

Salamander, I'm in the same boat as you. I thought about taking a razor blade and skimming the surface of the rock and get as much of the Palys as I can. I was jsut worried about palytoxin being released into the water column.

I think I'm going to do this. I'll just take a small patch out every day until they are gone.

RicksReefs · 04/30/2009, 07:13 AM

run plenty of carbon if your cutting proto's.
If your going to use a chisel, you shouldn't need to use a hammer and I wouldn't recommend doing it in the tank as you just may pop the tank.

carbonate rock is pretty soft and you should be able to just wiggle it into the rock and under the zoas.
practice on a spare rock first and be careful on where the blade may go if it gets away from you.
putting a sharp chisel thru your leg with paly toxin on it may ruin the rest of your day.

TheFishGuy,LLC · 04/30/2009, 07:41 AM

I tried the bleach and it didn't work. May have been old bleach. I use hemostats to pull them off the rocks. Do your best to get the bases of the polyps or they'll be back.

Salamander · 04/30/2009, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RicksReefs

a sharp chisel thru your leg with paly toxin on it may ruin the rest of your day.

I can see how that could be bad!

Whatever I do will have to be in the tank unfortunately. The rock is huge, supports a few other large rocks and there all covered in SPS that I think would be fragged beyond belief if I tried to pull everything out.

I'll try the chisel this weekend and see how it works.

JEFFR259 · 04/30/2009, 08:54 AM

Maybe it was a fluke, but I experimented a couple weeks ago and laid a nice clump of Aiptasia X on a Paly...just to see if it would knock it out.

I shut the pumps off so the Aiptasia X would sit on the Paly.

Nuke'd him for sure.

timnem70 · 01/11/2019, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEFFR259

Maybe it was a fluke, but I experimented a couple weeks ago and laid a nice clump of Aiptasia X on a Paly...just to see if it would knock it out.

I shut the pumps off so the Aiptasia X would sit on the Paly.

Nuke'd him for sure.

No fluke. Its the only way I know how without completely disturbing them and risking a toxic out break. The best way to kill them other than AptasiaX is to remove the sand. They are comprised primarily of it, at least the What the call Texas Trash Palys. Greenish blue, stings the **** outta nearly everything aroumd them and multiply like rabbits.... Yep those guys. I put a rock with them all over the bottom into my BB leather tank and they shrivled up over time. I have a clump of them I can't figure out what to do with. They suck.

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pfan151 · 01/11/2019, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timnem70

No fluke. Its the only way I know how without completely disturbing them and risking a toxic out break. The best way to kill them other than AptasiaX is to remove the sand. They are comprised primarily of it, at least the What the call Texas Trash Palys. Greenish blue, stings the **** outta nearly everything aroumd them and multiply like rabbits.... Yep those guys. I put a rock with them all over the bottom into my BB leather tank and they shrivled up over time. I have a clump of them I can't figure out what to do with. They suck.

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I assume he got the problem taken care of at some point over the last decade.

The Bean · 04/22/2019, 01:21 PM

Yes i would of thought so....but since you have dug up this old thread...I have a problem with the ugly palythoa and just wondered if anyone had any joy with gluing them shut etc?
Cheers
Miles

hkgar · 04/22/2019, 01:29 PM

Careful how you handle them. Are you aware ot the toxic nature of Palys? When I was ignorant, I tried scrubbing them of and treating with Hydrogen Peroxide. Spent 3 days in the hospital.

04/28/2009, 08:53 PM	#1
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	Palythoa Eradication? Anyone have good recommendations on how to kill some palythoa? They're more resilient than any aiptasia. I've been injecting them with kalk about once a week but they recover quick! I can't remove the rock so I need an in-tank solution. They were one of my first corals about 7 years ago but some are now taking over a huge rock that is prime real estate for some more SPS. Thanks! __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

04/28/2009, 10:54 PM	#2
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	Bang Zoom! Back to the top! __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

04/29/2009, 05:39 AM	#4
redfishsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,696	You could try blasting them with boiling water (turkey baster) or look for some zoa nudis (will take out other zoas though). Run carbon in case they release palytoxin in the water. __________________ "The measure of a life is not its duration but its donation." Corrie Ten Boom “The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins” -- Søren Kierkegaard Current Tank Info: ghetto grad school reef.....11g rimless tank, 36X9X9, lit by Cree and Rebels scobbled together. Stocked mostly with free stuff I got from panhandling my fellow reefers.

04/29/2009, 01:48 PM	#7
maroun.c Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,111	my Galaxea stings them that they stopped spraeding. yuo can see the burn effect on the polyps on the edge. __________________ 390 G mixed reef build Current Tank Info: 390G mixed reef

04/29/2009, 07:06 PM	#12
kaylo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Windsor, CT Posts: 449	What if you just cut where you wanted them gone and putty'd over that so they don't come back? Or putty another small piece of rock over that spot so you don't have to look at the putty? __________________ Hi. My name is Brian and i'm a reef addict. Current Tank Info: 135g tank: 75g sump, Reef Octopus Extreme SX 200 skimmer and marineland 4500 return, 2x Koralia EVOLUTION 1400

04/29/2009, 05:14 AM	#3
ryan115 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ocean Springs, MS Posts: 753	Im following along on this one, I am in the same situation and have pondered on getting a cr@p load of sundial snails to take them out. Or selling them to people as angel food.

04/29/2009, 07:18 AM	#5
RicksReefs Moved On Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In America's Dangling Junk State. Posts: 6,413	give them a name like 'super duper double chocolate eyelashes' and charge $30 a polyp. people will voluntarily pay you to let them remove them from the tank for you...

04/29/2009, 03:15 PM	#8
rickh Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lost_in_Michigan Posts: 1,306	Good luck. There have been several thread lately on this subject with no solution. I personally have tried Joe's Juice, Lemon juice, vinegar, Pickling lime, Kalk, NaOH, and some other Aptasia remedy without success. I have learned: 1. If they are ugly and brown they grow like weeds. 2. If they are beautiful they might morph in to number one. Rick

04/29/2009, 05:10 PM	#9
BrassMonkey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 950	i trim them with a razor or coral cutters. they release a cloud when cut but i havent seen it affect any of my other coral.

04/29/2009, 05:19 PM	#10
bj32482 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: benton, ky Posts: 974	What do they look like? I will take some if you want to share...

04/29/2009, 07:57 PM	#13
jdhuyvetter SWFMAS Event Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lehigh Acres, Florida Posts: 2,179	I use a syringe and inject them with a drop or two of bleach. Yes, I'm nuts, but it works. __________________ Be kind to animals.....kiss a shark! "Great things happen when you start to add more light. The heavens open, angels sing and there is Peace on Earth" RockDoc Current Tank Info: 300 gallon stony reef, 300 gallon softie tank, 120 gallon FW/Orchid tank

04/29/2009, 09:19 PM	#14
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	Wow! Bleach. That's too daring for me to try. I've tried most if not all aiptasia tricks and no luck. Sounds like I'm almost out of luck. At least they're a decent bright green color. If I can find the right tool I might try to cut/chip the top of the rock off. Its just a large area and my 8" bone cutters probably wouldn't work too well. If I find the solution I'll let y'all know. __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

04/29/2009, 10:20 PM	#15
RicksReefs Moved On Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In America's Dangling Junk State. Posts: 6,413	You should be able to slide a wood chisel into the rock and under the proto's.

04/29/2009, 10:31 PM	#16
Salamander Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 2,103	A chisel could work. I just worry about tapping on it too much and damaging the tank. I'll have to see how hard the rock is. It's a pretty porous rock too so some of the palys are attached deep in some holes. __________________ I feel more like myself now than I did before. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef, 2 x 250W DE MH, 2 x 54w T5, MSX 200 SKimmer, 2 Koralia 4's, 40g fuge/sump, QT

04/30/2009, 05:39 AM	#17
villious Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Newport News, Virginia Posts: 347	Salamander, I'm in the same boat as you. I thought about taking a razor blade and skimming the surface of the rock and get as much of the Palys as I can. I was jsut worried about palytoxin being released into the water column. I think I'm going to do this. I'll just take a small patch out every day until they are gone. __________________ "Good? Bad? I'm the one with the gun." "Hail to the king, baby!" -Ashley J. 'Ash' Williams This board has taught me that common sense is not so common..... Current Tank Info: 120 SPS Dominate

04/30/2009, 07:13 AM	#18
RicksReefs Moved On Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In America's Dangling Junk State. Posts: 6,413	run plenty of carbon if your cutting proto's. If your going to use a chisel, you shouldn't need to use a hammer and I wouldn't recommend doing it in the tank as you just may pop the tank. carbonate rock is pretty soft and you should be able to just wiggle it into the rock and under the zoas. practice on a spare rock first and be careful on where the blade may go if it gets away from you. putting a sharp chisel thru your leg with paly toxin on it may ruin the rest of your day.

04/30/2009, 07:41 AM	#19
TheFishGuy,LLC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Jonesboro, AR Posts: 109	I tried the bleach and it didn't work. May have been old bleach. I use hemostats to pull them off the rocks. Do your best to get the bases of the polyps or they'll be back.

04/30/2009, 08:54 AM	#21
JEFFR259 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 595	Maybe it was a fluke, but I experimented a couple weeks ago and laid a nice clump of Aiptasia X on a Paly...just to see if it would knock it out. I shut the pumps off so the Aiptasia X would sit on the Paly. Nuke'd him for sure.

04/22/2019, 01:21 PM	#24
The Bean Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 84	Yes i would of thought so....but since you have dug up this old thread...I have a problem with the ugly palythoa and just wondered if anyone had any joy with gluing them shut etc? Cheers Miles

04/22/2019, 01:29 PM	#25
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	Careful how you handle them. Are you aware ot the toxic nature of Palys? When I was ignorant, I tried scrubbing them of and treating with Hydrogen Peroxide. Spent 3 days in the hospital. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels