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03/23/2017, 12:33 PM | #2876 | |
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Hi Slief - are there benchmark decibel levels for the MBK 160 and 180? Do you think 60 to 70 db is normal? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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03/23/2017, 12:34 PM | #2877 | |
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I forgot the link to the manual in my last post. Here it is. http://royalexclusiv.net/images/cont...enance_eng.pdf
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03/23/2017, 12:44 PM | #2878 | |
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One other thing. Does the pump head have a little black John Guest fitting on the side of it that would accommodate some tubing? I ask because the more recent Mini Bubble King 180's had what is known as an AKB which sends water from the pump head to the back side of the block. If the pump head has that fitting, you would really need the correct block. The block you would find in a Laguna would not include the reciprocal fitting on the back of the block to connect the AKB tube. If you look at this picture below, you can see the AKB tubing and where it comes out of the side of the pump head.
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03/23/2017, 12:46 PM | #2879 | |
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Thanks! Because noise perception is relative, I would highly appreciate a db measurement from your MBK160... mine is far from silent. Been running for 3 weeks now and I am scratching my head about why it is 67 db loud. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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03/23/2017, 12:53 PM | #2880 | |
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That said, I would strongly suggest you take the pump fully apart and make sure it's clean inside and out. Inspect the bearing and reassemble it properly. Also, knowing that the original owner pried the block off the base and installed a different block, it could be misaligned. Still, take the steps I have suggested above. These skimmers are normally very quiet but given the circumstances of your skimmer, it could be one of a few things causing the noise you are hearing and trial and error will be your best bet. Also make sure the rubber feet are on the bottom of the skimmer. If they aren't, that could cause noise. Make sure the bubble plate is centered in the body and not off to one side so that it could be touching the inside of the body. You can see the bubble plate in the picture I posted a couple posts above showing the pump. It is held in place by the pumps output and can be shifted left or right inside the body. It needs to be centered so it's not contacting the sides of the skimmer.
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03/23/2017, 01:04 PM | #2881 | |
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03/23/2017, 01:10 PM | #2882 | |
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http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2573406 Another thing you can try after inspecting it inside and out is loosening up the nut slightly that holds the bubble plate base in place. It doesn't need to be terribly tight. When I first set my MBK 160 up, it was slightly noisy but it quieted down to near silent after a bit of time. It might have taken a few weeks. I honestly don't remember. My guess is that something is either assembled wrong inside the pump or misaligned between the pump and the skimmer body. The pumps themselves are generally dead silent when assembled properly but if the bearing isn't inserted properly, that will cause noise from inside the pump.
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03/23/2017, 05:07 PM | #2883 |
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Thank you slief( sorry misspelled your name last post).
So yes, is a Laguna 1350, the skimmer is a beast is just I can't explain why is a bit noisier then the alpha... I'm going to follow your steps and dissemble the skimmer this week end. By the way this pump doesn't have the fitting as is a gen 2 bkm 180. It's possible to use one of the new pumps on a gen 2 skimmer?those new pumps looks awesome.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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04/01/2017, 10:32 AM | #2885 |
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I'm looking at purchasing my first bubble king. I have a 120 gallon (4x2x2) with an app 30 gallon sump. So looking for advice on which one to purchase. I have a medium to heavy bioload and would like it to be a little on the larger size. Thanks for the assistance.
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Bk mini 160 or 180 works real well.
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For that size display, a Mini 180 or Double Cone 180 would be great. A Mini 160 could also work though the 180 would likely be more appropriate if the load is at least a medium bioload. If the load is really low, the 160 would work great too. Personally, I'd go with the Double Cone 180 because the skimmer pump is outside the body making maintenance easier though both the Mini 180 and Double Cone are both great performers. Unlike the Mini, the Double Cone 180 includes the RD3 pump which makes fine tune a breeze and also makes the skimmer more flexible in terms of load. That said, a truly heavy bioload (by Bubble King standards) is upwards of 1/2" of fish per gallon. Many people think they have a heavy load but aren't anywhere near that when it comes to these skimmers. The Bubble Kings are also very conservatively rated and will perform best when properly matched to the load/display size. That said, we have a dedicated forum for all things Bubble King and Royal Exclusiv. We monitor that forum 7 days a week night and day. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745
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When I bought my DC 200, I was somewhat put off by the "Royal Exclusiv Bubble King Double Cone 180 + RD3 Speedy - for aquariums up to 132 Gallons (500 liters)" description. Mind you, I bought my skimmer before RE USA came to fruition, but after you guys started the forum, I then found out the skimmers are way underrated. Given that, I went for the DC 200 because I didn't want to spend $1,200+ on a skimmer that was "barely rated" for my tank. When my bioload was heavy, the DC 200 ran like a champ, but once my bioload dropped, I began to experience inconsistent skimming. I recall reading somewhere that the 150, 180, 200, 250 numbers indicated the display size, but I cannot recall where I read that. Still, its a great skimmer that I will own for years to come, but I wish the description on these skimmers is more accurately rewritten at some point. |
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04/03/2017, 03:49 PM | #2889 |
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On the 1/2 inch fish theorythe best way to find thought out is take your display and divide in half. So my tank is a 240 gallon tank, divide that by the 1/2 in theory and you get 120 inches. Or 10ft of fish... I have 30 fish or so and don't have 10ft of fish. Even my biggest tang is only 8 inches with most fish being 2-4 inches. So my DC200 is not even having to work to keep up with my load. Also have to take into consideration how much we feed.
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The 1/2" per gallon load is kind of a general aquarium industry rule. When you get into larger fish, it kind of falls into a gray area but 50" of fish in a 100 gallon display would be a heavy load. That would be equivalent to 50 small clown fish or chromis. That said, a 7" tang would eat a lot more than 7 chromis and also poop a lot more which is why that 1/2" per gallon rule gets kind of mucky. I guess girth would have to be considered much the same way package sizing is in the shipping world. When we look at the range of skimmers, the low end of the scale would apply to a heavy load and a light load at the high end of the sizing. I do agree that the sizing ranges leave much to be desired and this sadly holds true across the entire skimmer industry. What makes it worse is that some skimmer manufacturers rate their skimmers optimistically while others are more conservative. When I'm consulted with skimmer questions, I always try to point those things out. That said, in your case with the 200 skimmer, just run it more wet.
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Is there anywhere I can find reference of how dense the bubbles should be within the chamber? I just bought a 2-3 year old dc250. The density of bubble in the chamber seems kinda low. What type of adjustment would increase bubble density? Is it possible my air intake is clogged?
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Thanks Scott. I just got it last night so will keep an eye on it. It'll be going on roughly a 500 gallon system Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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04/07/2017, 09:59 AM | #2894 | |
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Here is the tuning thread. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2546139
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Thanks
This was overnight of running it at 34 watts first night. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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My Red Dragon Bubble King 2000 pump will run about 4 seconds then stop, and repeat for a minute or so, then stop completely. I can't feel any problems with impeller or it's fitting. Do folks think this is an impeller problem or motor problem, as it's so expensive for me to guess wrong. Thanks!
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Post 2 of this thread covers the bearing remove and installation. It's important to make sure the end of the impeller shaft below the magnet is clean and smooth and also important to make sure the hole in the bearing is clean. Any buildup in there will create friction which is the primary reason for the pump to fail. Worst case, we do stock the blocks in our Ft. Myers warehouse. We would just need to determine if your block as the AKB (anti lime bypass) which is the red tube that connects from the pump head to the rear side of the block. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2573406
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I like the bubble King super Marin 200 but don't know what they are rated for. Would this be a good skimmer for 120 gallon tank with 40 gallon sump with a decent bio load.
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It's a great skimmer but may be a bit oversized for that size tank unless the load is pretty heavy. I'm sure Slief will respond but for comparison I run a 250 on my 300 with 100 or so gallons of sump and upwards of 25-30 fish that eat like pigs.
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