Disease And Treatment Id Please

[alfieferenzo84]

Very hard to see only shows if the light and right angle hits the fish below is best pic out of 200. I would describe it as whitish milky film and bumpy wrinkly skin is best i can describe it. Eating,breathing and swimming normally. Pic don't really show the full affect as fish is covered in the tiny bit of white u see in photo plus skin is very wrinkled.

[ThRoewer]

The described appearance would match Amyloodinium, Brooklynella, Trichodina or a bacterial skin infection.

Brooklynella, Trichodina and bacterial infections form more of a white layer that is kind of easy to spot. On clownfish and damsels Brooklynella or Trichodina would be my first guess.

Amyloodinium infections show at first more by a rusty to golden dusting on the fish that is kind of hard to see - the described requirement for the right light and angle goes along with that. Later stage infections (if the fish is hardy enough to survive that long) will cause increased slime production that will lead to a whitish, bumpy skin appearance.

Though the behavioral symptoms kind of speak against all. Those would be erratic swimming, heavy breathing, clamping fins, scratching and at later stages also not eating and reclusiveness - just to name the most common.

[alfieferenzo84]

Pic attached powder blue tang. Just fed tank. Ate good. Brine mysis blood worms n now picking at nori on clip

[ThRoewer]

Does he scratch against rocks or other hard surfaces in the tank?

Usually, when the fish stops eating it is so far advanced that the chances for survival are slim to none.

[alfieferenzo84]

No.

[alfieferenzo84]

Better pics anyone know what is going on please help

[ThRoewer]

Is that the only affected fish?

[alfieferenzo84]

Chromis have reddish bumps, and copper band has a mouth issue talked about in another post. other then that all other fish are ick free now after 4wks in hypo. fyi the pb has been in hypo for past 4wks as well. Did loose 5 fish 3wks ago but sense nothing else.

oh pb was covered bad in ick when received

[ThRoewer]

Did this start during treatment or after? It could be nothing more than healing or it could be a bacterial infection. I had bacterial issues with my fridmani during and after hypo.

How are the other fish doing?

[alfieferenzo84]

hypo started 4-13. odd marks showed up on pb 5-21

[snorvich]

If chromis with red spots are involved, I would bet on uronema marinum. However, the initial description sounds like amyloodinium. Hypo does not treat either.

[alfieferenzo84]

thinking about Chloroquine Phosphate. i still need another 2-4wk of hypo to treat the initial issue

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by alfieferenzo84

thinking about Chloroquine Phosphate. i still need another 2-4wk of hypo to treat the initial issue

If your fish have brook, velvet, or uonema, you will not have 2-4 weeks.

[ThRoewer]

Originally Posted by alfieferenzo84

thinking about Chloroquine Phosphate. i still need another 2-4wk of hypo to treat the initial issue

Originally Posted by snorvich

If your fish have brook, velvet, or uonema, you will not have 2-4 weeks.

Another reason why you should NEVER treat in your DT - you can't switch cures easily in case you have too and often have to treat longer than actually required for cleaning up the fish (Fish will be Ich free after 2 weeks of Hypo, Copper or other medications). The longer times are not to clean up the fish but to keep them clean from eventually late hatching new parasites. A transfer into a clean tank can do the same without exposing the fish unnecessarily long to whatever toxin or treatment method you have chosen.

As Steve noted, two weeks will be too long if it is any of the nasties. Some fish may survive on their own (I see it often at stores in invert systems) but in general you have to expect high casualties if not treating immediately.

Though I'm still not completely convinced that that's what your tang has. Unfortunately, without access to a properly equipped lab, these diagnosis are often more guesswork than anything else.