Owners Thread: Innovative Marine Fusion 40 - Page 141

kevin21 · 04/09/2018, 07:34 PM

I love the extra length of the 50. Don’t get me wrong, the 40s look great as well and I love following this thread. I am caught between the 50 and 40. Haven’t heard of anyone with the 50 yet. Would love some feedback on it, if anyone out there has one!

AZReef13 · 04/09/2018, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin21

I love the extra length of the 50. Don’t get me wrong, the 40s look great as well and I love following this thread. I am caught between the 50 and 40. Haven’t heard of anyone with the 50 yet. Would love some feedback on it, if anyone out there has one!

Even if you go with the 50, can't wait to watch your build. Have you checked out new external lines?

kevin21 · 04/10/2018, 05:51 AM

Personally haven't thought about that yet. I have the basics already on my 28g that I can transfer over. I have two kessil a160we's, tunze ATO, and a tunze 9002 skimmer. I believe I will somewhat upgrade the skimmer for the 40 or 50 though, bc this is an older model. Still does its job well though. I would be transferring over my existing rock and livestock as well. So I would need the tank and stand, some additional cured LR, and extra starboard to use for my barebottom. Then I will be sitting pretty. I also will have the returns on the tank, maybe upgrade them if I feel its necessary, and have an MP10 ready to go.

AZReef13 · 04/10/2018, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin21

Personally haven't thought about that yet. I have the basics already on my 28g that I can transfer over. I have two kessil a160we's, tunze ATO, and a tunze 9002 skimmer. I believe I will somewhat upgrade the skimmer for the 40 or 50 though, bc this is an older model. Still does its job well though. I would be transferring over my existing rock and livestock as well. So I would need the tank and stand, some additional cured LR, and extra starboard to use for my barebottom. Then I will be sitting pretty. I also will have the returns on the tank, maybe upgrade them if I feel its necessary, and have an MP10 ready to go.

That makes more since if you are transfering over. Also I really like the APS stands as well. If I was to do it over I would seriously look at a HOB skimmer. The New Mightyjet is a great return pump as well.

What is this Starboard? where do you get it?

kevin21 · 04/10/2018, 08:43 AM

Why would you prefer a hang on back?

And this is a quick example of a link for starboard. It is a strong plastic that is reef safe. Can put it on bottom glass of the tank. I cut mine to fit my 28 and would do the same for the IM. Some people go as far as put down a reef safe glue on the starboard, and then sprinkling sand on it. This gives the natural look of the sand bed, but is really barebottom. I have never done that though. I don't mind the white look, it normally just gets covered with coral and coraline and I don't even notice it any more.

AZReef13 · 04/10/2018, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin21

Why would you prefer a hang on back?

And this is a quick example of a link for starboard. It is a strong plastic that is reef safe. Can put it on bottom glass of the tank. I cut mine to fit my 28 and would do the same for the IM. Some people go as far as put down a reef safe glue on the starboard, and then sprinkling sand on it. This gives the natural look of the sand bed, but is really barebottom. I have never done that though. I don't mind the white look, it normally just gets covered with coral and coraline and I don't even notice it any more.

I feel the HOB skim better, and less micro bubbles.

Didn't see link to the starboard? Interesting Idea, might **** off wrasses, sand sifting fish...

kevin21 · 04/11/2018, 05:42 AM

https://www.boatoutfitters.com/mater...king-starboard

Sorry, there is the link. Basically, you would need to stay away from sand sifting fish and fish that would sleep in the sand, such as wrasses. You can get away with gobies, but they prefer sand as well. However, these are the sacrifices you take to go barebottom. Ive thought about going with a short sand bed in the 50, because I do love wrasses and gobies, but for whatever reason, I have had serious nutrient issues with my sand bed tanks in the past. The past two tanks that I have gone bare bottom have been a lot easier to maintain.

AZReef13 · 04/11/2018, 10:51 AM

Thanks,

I've always done sand bed like the look. Never tried a bare bottom tank, might want to try a small frag tank in future might be something to look at,

Ojaijames · 04/11/2018, 04:04 PM

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Fellow RADION xr-15 users over your IM 40 what is your lighting schedule? I extended mine to 11 hours so family can enjoy the tank longer and wondering what others have done.

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No one using RADION xr15?

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AZReef13 · 04/11/2018, 04:07 PM

I'm using AI 26, still trying to find a nice light schedule as well.

Ojaijames · 04/11/2018, 05:30 PM

I’m curious settings and placement of mp10 users in this group?

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AZReef13 · 04/11/2018, 09:13 PM

I'm currently running one, top right (wanted to hide it), use Lagoon, about 5. I have LPS. Plus I have the new Mightyjet return pump and running that on their sine wave; 4

burrito · 04/11/2018, 09:37 PM

I just got the IM wavelink . Super quiet and running “4” on pulse mode which is creating a nice wave action. I have it in the back top right corner of my 30L.

Also, I didn’t think my sicci 1.5 was loud (but I might have to go with the mighty jet if it’s as quiet as the wave link.

Ojaijames · 04/12/2018, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AZReef13

I'm currently running one, top right (wanted to hide it), use Lagoon, about 5. I have LPS. Plus I have the new Mightyjet return pump and running that on their sine wave; 4

Which mighty jet did you get? I assume this is in a 40gal IM.

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AZReef13 · 04/13/2018, 07:34 AM

Yes, it was the MJ 538

Still debating replacing mp10 for the wavelink.

burrito · 04/13/2018, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AZReef13

Yes, it was the MJ 538

Still debating replacing mp10 for the wavelink.

1 thing to note, while you can have 2 wavelinks for the price of one mp10, the mp10 is about half the size if not more for the wet side which in these smaller AIOs could make a difference, ill get a pic later this afternoon of my waveline in a IM30L

Ojaijames · 04/13/2018, 05:21 PM

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Nice scape, looks like diatoms.... went through it myself.. I started to use Red Sea NO3/PO4... Really help in my tank. also GFO in IM reactor...

Curious about the Red Sea n03/p04. What is this for? I get the breakouts usually after I have spent time with my hands in the tank.

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saltnewb · 04/14/2018, 08:37 PM

im about to finally order my supplies for my IM 40 . im still debating on a skimmer , i had the ghost on my 20 and it was fine once it broke in. My question is for those of you with the Ghost on the 40 is it really that bad and if you had to do it over again would you buy it or something else ( tunze 9004 dc).

also how much live rock and sand are you guys running in the 40 , im being really indecisive on this build as ive been away for a year or two and feel like i forgot everything i knew

TIA

AZReef13 · 04/15/2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saltnewb

im about to finally order my supplies for my IM 40 . im still debating on a skimmer , i had the ghost on my 20 and it was fine once it broke in. My question is for those of you with the Ghost on the 40 is it really that bad and if you had to do it over again would you buy it or something else ( tunze 9004 dc).

also how much live rock and sand are you guys running in the 40 , im being really indecisive on this build as ive been away for a year or two and feel like i forgot everything i knew

TIA

I'm using the ghost and its fine. But if I know now I would take serious look at a HOB. I like to use my socks, and or media chambers. which the tunze will need one of those chambers. If you go with ghost, make sure you order thier preformance pack. Most onlines have them.

I think I started with a about 20lbs.. And have added a few more pounds.. I pick rock LFS and built my scape, did't just get 20lbs.

AZReef13 · 04/15/2018, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ojaijames

Curious about the Red Sea n03/p04. What is this for? I get the breakouts usually after I have spent time with my hands in the tank.

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It's a form of carbon dosing. It will help remove nitrites and phosphates, never heard out break from hands?

saltnewb · 04/18/2018, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AZReef13

I'm using the ghost and its fine. But if I know now I would take serious look at a HOB. I like to use my socks, and or media chambers. which the tunze will need one of those chambers. If you go with ghost, make sure you order thier preformance pack. Most onlines have them.

I think I started with a about 20lbs.. And have added a few more pounds.. I pick rock LFS and built my scape, did't just get 20lbs.

i ended up ordering the aquamaxx hob 1.5

AZReef13 · 04/18/2018, 08:47 PM

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i ended up ordering the aquamaxx hob 1.5

Can't wait to hear your thoughts.

AZReef13 · 04/19/2018, 12:10 PM

Ok I finnaly add my Innovative Marine AUQA Gadget Chaetomax 2-in-1 9W Refugium LED, with a In Tank media basket. I really like the way the In Tank fits into chamber. Light mounts with velcro, very simple. There is no on/off switch which is the only drawback. I did add a timer that can control light. Add a small ball of Chaeto...will keep updates on growth, Might be getting a couple captive breed Mandrins next week. So this small Refug will help with pods, I hope.

burrito · 04/26/2018, 11:09 AM

might be tough but any pics of the setup, im considering the same for my 30L

saltnewb · 05/09/2018, 05:57 AM

I finally have the tank up and goin , will post pics this weekend if I get time. I love my vanity/stand that I modified, lots of room and looks nice IMO. Im using my hydra 26 hd , but will be using the aquatic life t-5 hybrid . I ordered an apex it should be here soon ,I will need to build a nice layout panel for it. I went with the avast marine ATO and love it. Im running the aquamaxx hob 1.5 skimmer only thing im having issue with is i need to re-plumb the intake and output to make it fit better/save room in the back . I totally love this tank, was planning on using my mp10 but the wetside died on me so i ordered the ice cap 1k gyre and are so glad i did , great flow no dead spots.

04/09/2018, 07:34 PM	#3501
kevin21 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,208	I love the extra length of the 50. Don’t get me wrong, the 40s look great as well and I love following this thread. I am caught between the 50 and 40. Haven’t heard of anyone with the 50 yet. Would love some feedback on it, if anyone out there has one! __________________ Kevin Current Tank Info: Waterbox 50g, Tunze 9004 dc skimmer, Vortech mp10, Kessil ap700

04/10/2018, 05:51 AM	#3503
kevin21 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,208	Personally haven't thought about that yet. I have the basics already on my 28g that I can transfer over. I have two kessil a160we's, tunze ATO, and a tunze 9002 skimmer. I believe I will somewhat upgrade the skimmer for the 40 or 50 though, bc this is an older model. Still does its job well though. I would be transferring over my existing rock and livestock as well. So I would need the tank and stand, some additional cured LR, and extra starboard to use for my barebottom. Then I will be sitting pretty. I also will have the returns on the tank, maybe upgrade them if I feel its necessary, and have an MP10 ready to go. __________________ Kevin Current Tank Info: Waterbox 50g, Tunze 9004 dc skimmer, Vortech mp10, Kessil ap700

04/10/2018, 08:43 AM	#3505
kevin21 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,208	Why would you prefer a hang on back? And this is a quick example of a link for starboard. It is a strong plastic that is reef safe. Can put it on bottom glass of the tank. I cut mine to fit my 28 and would do the same for the IM. Some people go as far as put down a reef safe glue on the starboard, and then sprinkling sand on it. This gives the natural look of the sand bed, but is really barebottom. I have never done that though. I don't mind the white look, it normally just gets covered with coral and coraline and I don't even notice it any more. __________________ Kevin Current Tank Info: Waterbox 50g, Tunze 9004 dc skimmer, Vortech mp10, Kessil ap700

04/11/2018, 05:42 AM	#3507
kevin21 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 2,208	https://www.boatoutfitters.com/mater...king-starboard Sorry, there is the link. Basically, you would need to stay away from sand sifting fish and fish that would sleep in the sand, such as wrasses. You can get away with gobies, but they prefer sand as well. However, these are the sacrifices you take to go barebottom. Ive thought about going with a short sand bed in the 50, because I do love wrasses and gobies, but for whatever reason, I have had serious nutrient issues with my sand bed tanks in the past. The past two tanks that I have gone bare bottom have been a lot easier to maintain. __________________ Kevin Current Tank Info: Waterbox 50g, Tunze 9004 dc skimmer, Vortech mp10, Kessil ap700

04/11/2018, 05:30 PM	#3511
Ojaijames Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Chico CA Posts: 15	I’m curious settings and placement of mp10 users in this group? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ __________________ Current Tank: 40G Nuvo from Innovative Marine with Ecotech Radion XR15w G4 Pro & MP10wQD, Eheim Jager 150w, Ghost Skimmer and MiniMax, bits and pieces.. Current Tank Info: INNOVATIVE MARINE 40 AND 20

04/11/2018, 10:51 AM	#3508
AZReef13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 277	Thanks, I've always done sand bed like the look. Never tried a bare bottom tank, might want to try a small frag tank in future might be something to look at,

04/11/2018, 04:07 PM	#3510
AZReef13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 277	I'm using AI 26, still trying to find a nice light schedule as well.

04/11/2018, 09:13 PM	#3512
AZReef13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 277	I'm currently running one, top right (wanted to hide it), use Lagoon, about 5. I have LPS. Plus I have the new Mightyjet return pump and running that on their sine wave; 4

04/11/2018, 09:37 PM	#3513
burrito Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 08876 Posts: 224	I just got the IM wavelink . Super quiet and running “4” on pulse mode which is creating a nice wave action. I have it in the back top right corner of my 30L. Also, I didn’t think my sicci 1.5 was loud (but I might have to go with the mighty jet if it’s as quiet as the wave link.

04/13/2018, 07:34 AM	#3515
AZReef13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 277	Yes, it was the MJ 538 Still debating replacing mp10 for the wavelink.

04/14/2018, 08:37 PM	#3518
saltnewb Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 51	im about to finally order my supplies for my IM 40 . im still debating on a skimmer , i had the ghost on my 20 and it was fine once it broke in. My question is for those of you with the Ghost on the 40 is it really that bad and if you had to do it over again would you buy it or something else ( tunze 9004 dc). also how much live rock and sand are you guys running in the 40 , im being really indecisive on this build as ive been away for a year or two and feel like i forgot everything i knew TIA

04/19/2018, 12:10 PM	#3523
AZReef13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 277	Ok I finnaly add my Innovative Marine AUQA Gadget Chaetomax 2-in-1 9W Refugium LED, with a In Tank media basket. I really like the way the In Tank fits into chamber. Light mounts with velcro, very simple. There is no on/off switch which is the only drawback. I did add a timer that can control light. Add a small ball of Chaeto...will keep updates on growth, Might be getting a couple captive breed Mandrins next week. So this small Refug will help with pods, I hope.

04/26/2018, 11:09 AM	#3524
burrito Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 08876 Posts: 224	might be tough but any pics of the setup, im considering the same for my 30L

05/09/2018, 05:57 AM	#3525
saltnewb Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 51	I finally have the tank up and goin , will post pics this weekend if I get time. I love my vanity/stand that I modified, lots of room and looks nice IMO. Im using my hydra 26 hd , but will be using the aquatic life t-5 hybrid . I ordered an apex it should be here soon ,I will need to build a nice layout panel for it. I went with the avast marine ATO and love it. Im running the aquamaxx hob 1.5 skimmer only thing im having issue with is i need to re-plumb the intake and output to make it fit better/save room in the back . I totally love this tank, was planning on using my mp10 but the wetside died on me so i ordered the ice cap 1k gyre and are so glad i did , great flow no dead spots.