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Old 06/20/2018, 04:04 PM   #1
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75 gallon stocking

I recently purchased a new tank and cant wait to add new additions. I am taking my time, so I want to run some thoughts out there. The tank is 75 up top, 25 below. I currently have a coral beauty and skunk clown. It has always been my hope to have a copperband butterfly. Not sure if it's possible, and yes I have read alot on them, knowing how difficult they are. But I would like feedback on size and whatnot. I would also like to keep leopard wrasse, not sure if multiples can or should be done. I also would like a longnose hawkfish. Other than those ( which I would appreciate feedback on- yes, no, why), I would like peaceful and for the most part smaller fish. I enjoy more smaller fish, than 1 large fish in the tank. Thanks for your help!


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Old 06/20/2018, 08:38 PM   #2
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A 75 gallon is still kind of small for a copperband butterfly. You can probably grow out a small one for some time, but will need to upgrade to a bigger tank or swap it out for another small one. Make sure you quarantine him and that he is eating before adding him to the display.

One leopard wrasse is all I would recommend for a 75. Since they're generally hunting pods all day long, you'll see that having multiples would result in a quickly depleted pod population size. Make sure you have a sandbed as they need to bury themselves at night.

The hawkfish is a solid choice.

One of my personal favorites in my 75 gallon is my yellow wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus). It is super friendly, not shy, eats with gusto, and is simply a thrill to watch. It would need a sandbed to bury itself. I also love dartfish and firefish. Just make sure the top is covered. Dartfish groups make for great displays! Cardinals are also nice options if you could get an established pair (bangaii) or a small group (pajamas). Lots of options for you!


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Old 06/21/2018, 06:25 AM   #3
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I figured it would be too big. Well I may skip the copperband then. Also, good to know on the leopard. What if no copperband, would it be better to have multiple leopards? Sand is about 3". Ok hawk is a go, good to know. If the leopards dont work maybe I will try different wrasse. I didn't know you could have multiple dartfish, will have to check those out


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Old 06/21/2018, 07:44 AM   #4
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Copperband is borderline, imo. Max size is 7", according to fishbase, but they aren't an open-water/migrating fish like a tang. I'll defer to someone who has kept one here.

A longnosed hawkfish (or a pair of them) should be in every tank. Mike's suggestion of H. chrysus is a perfect fish too.

Leopard wrasses are beautiful, and I think most folks keep them in pairs. Mature rock and a fuge would definitely help, as would an auto-feeder so they can eat several times a day.

Fairy and flasher wrasses are others to look into, if you're into that.

Orchid dottyback is another great one.


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Old 06/22/2018, 11:35 AM   #5
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Agree with the options above. Also you can look into the Flameback/Brazilian Dwarf angels and the black cap basslet.


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Old 06/23/2018, 07:37 AM   #6
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Ok so probably skip the butterfly then. Can I add another dwarf angel with the coral beauty? Black cap is a good idea. Definitely getting the hawkfish. I suppose I can wait a bit for the leopard. Also need to find a lid.


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Ok so probably skip the butterfly then. Can I add another dwarf angel with the coral beauty? Black cap is a good idea. Definitely getting the hawkfish. I suppose I can wait a bit for the leopard. Also need to find a lid.
Yes, you can add another dwarf with the CB, but be careful. I would try to avoid the ones like Flameback, Atlantic pygmy, Flame angel, and Potteri because of the same color pattern. I would recommend a Multi-color dwarf angel would be a good fit. Make sure you have enough rockwork and I would recommend adding them at the same time.


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Well the CB is already in there. And I went pretty minimalist this time with the rock, so I should probably avoid another angel then


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Well the CB is already in there. And I went pretty minimalist this time with the rock, so I should probably avoid another angel then
You can try to rearrange the rockwork when adding another one or you could try an acclimation box for a few days to see how they will react.


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Old 06/26/2018, 07:08 AM   #10
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I found that moving around the rocks helps. But it really depends.


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Old 06/27/2018, 04:35 PM   #11
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I will see what the lfs has this weekend on angels.

What are everyone's thoughts on a ground dweller? Goby or some sort of goat fish? Not sure how big those get. I will have a hawk for perching, a few fish for open swimming, trying to fill up all spaces...


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What are everyone's thoughts on a ground dweller?
My favorite one is the pink and blue spot goby (Cryptocentrus leptocephalus).

It gets a little bigger than most other gobies and has a ton of personality.


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Goatfish I believe gets too big for your tank. If you decide on a Goby, I would make sure to introduce it first before the hawkfish, IMO.


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Old 06/29/2018, 10:54 AM   #14
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Good idea. Il make sure to do that. The tank was converted two weeks ago, all fish and coral are A OK. So I am going to try to in introduce another fish this weekend and see how it goes


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Old 07/02/2018, 06:33 PM   #15
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Ok no luck on the right size and angels listed below. Added 2 new, very small additions. First is the yasha goby, always been interested in them. Currently about .5" but has taken to the main cave. I think I saw it eat a piece of mysis or two but thats about it. The second is the longnose hawk! About 1", such a great personality, very happy to have another and is eating well. Working on putting a lid together, right now I just have clear screen taped over the tank, cant look at it anymore haha.


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