Quarantine Help

Bryce H. · 05/18/2018, 06:05 AM

So I’m building my DT right now (finishing up PVC plumbing then ready to start cycling) but I have a couple questions about setting up a QT tank as id like to quarantine while my tank is cycling to speed up getting fish into DT. I am thinking either a 20L or 29G for the quarantine. I have a Fluval 406 canister filter that is brand new and not being used. Here are my questions.

Should I use the canister filter I have or buy a sponge filter?

How can I seed the tank as I don’t have any filter media from an established tank? Can I use Dr. Tim’s to get some bacteria into the canister or sponge?

If I do canister, should I buy a small powerhead for flow and more surface aggitation for oxygen exchange?

If I do use the canister, I will be removing carbon if I medicate (still haven’t decided if I’m going to go with a QT to monitor or do preventative medicating)

nereefpat · 05/18/2018, 07:35 AM

A 20L or 29 is great size for a qt, as long as you aren't buying huge fish. How big is the display, or what fish will you be quarantining, by the way?

If you want to use a filter in the qt, then the canister will be fine. As you said, carbon would need to be removed if you are medicating. I wouldn't bother with a powerhead (unless trying to qt an Achilles/sohal tang etc). Just point the return of the canister at the surface. I just use an air stone with no filter.

A bacterial starter like dr tim's would be fine. Another way to manage ammonia is just monitor it and do water changes and add Prime as needed.

Another thing...Don't rush. Take your time. Don't add everything at once. Nothing good happens fast here.

Thornbreaker · 05/18/2018, 07:48 AM

You can totally be QTing while you're still setting up your display tank. I did the same thing. Just moved my 2 clowns over to the DT yesterday that were in QT since February. Gave me a good chance to practice water changes, feeding, observation, etc too.

I also did Tank Transfer Method prior to placing my 2 clowns into a 20 gallon QT. I'd recommend it. I did cycle my QT, but what nereefpat says is true to, you can do it either way. If you cycle it, you just need to make sure there's enough surface area. I had a HOB filter and an air sponge.

Bryce H. · 05/18/2018, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nereefpat

A 20L or 29 is great size for a qt, as long as you aren't buying huge fish. How big is the display, or what fish will you be quarantining, by the way?

If you want to use a filter in the qt, then the canister will be fine. As you said, carbon would need to be removed if you are medicating. I wouldn't bother with a powerhead (unless trying to qt an Achilles/sohal tang etc). Just point the return of the canister at the surface. I just use an air stone with no filter.

A bacterial starter like dr tim's would be fine. Another way to manage ammonia is just monitor it and do water changes and add Prime as needed.

Another thing...Don't rush. Take your time. Don't add everything at once. Nothing good happens fast here.

I have a 75G display and initial quarantine is going to be 2 clowns. Possibly a few chromis as well, all from a LFS that friends of mine in the hobby trust very well and have never once gotten a fish with any illness from them. Still quarantining obviously, even with their excellent track record.

nereefpat · 05/18/2018, 08:18 AM

20L or 29 will be perfect for that. Good luck.

Bryce H. · 05/18/2018, 08:33 AM

Thanks for the help and quick response!

Bryce H. · 05/18/2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nereefpat

20L or 29 will be perfect for that. Good luck.

One last question and it may be a dumb one... After adding dr Tim’s, do I want to add the ammonium chloride and let it cycle or add it them add fish about a day or so later? Just want to make sure I do it correctly... I’ve heard both...

Thornbreaker · 05/19/2018, 07:56 AM

If you add ammonia to start cycling, you'll need to wait till cycle is complete to add fish.

So if you dose to 2ppm ammonia, add bacteria, then wait for ammonia to drop to 0. And preferably nitrites to 0 as well. It may take a few days to as long as weeks even with Dr. Tim's.

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Bryce H. · 05/20/2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Thornbreaker

If you add ammonia to start cycling, you'll need to wait till cycle is complete to add fish.

So if you dose to 2ppm ammonia, add bacteria, then wait for ammonia to drop to 0. And preferably nitrites to 0 as well. It may take a few days to as long as weeks even with Dr. Tim's.

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What would you recommend doing? I’ve heard to add bacteria then add fish and they’ll produce the ammonia through feeding and waste. Or you can cycle it, or you can my cycle it and just never allow it to get to that point by water changes or other means... looking for what’s going to be easiest and safest for fish.

lagatbezan · 05/20/2018, 11:37 AM

you can also use instant ocean bio-spira. It has live bacteria in it that will instantly cycle your qt. I usually put a sponge in a cup and add the bio spira to the sponge. Let it sit for half a day and then put it in the qt.
Also get an ammonia badge. They are great.
I still suggest doing regular water changes for the qt.

05/18/2018, 06:05 AM	#1
Bryce H. Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 26	Quarantine Help So I’m building my DT right now (finishing up PVC plumbing then ready to start cycling) but I have a couple questions about setting up a QT tank as id like to quarantine while my tank is cycling to speed up getting fish into DT. I am thinking either a 20L or 29G for the quarantine. I have a Fluval 406 canister filter that is brand new and not being used. Here are my questions. Should I use the canister filter I have or buy a sponge filter? How can I seed the tank as I don’t have any filter media from an established tank? Can I use Dr. Tim’s to get some bacteria into the canister or sponge? If I do canister, should I buy a small powerhead for flow and more surface aggitation for oxygen exchange? If I do use the canister, I will be removing carbon if I medicate (still haven’t decided if I’m going to go with a QT to monitor or do preventative medicating)

05/18/2018, 07:35 AM	#2
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	A 20L or 29 is great size for a qt, as long as you aren't buying huge fish. How big is the display, or what fish will you be quarantining, by the way? If you want to use a filter in the qt, then the canister will be fine. As you said, carbon would need to be removed if you are medicating. I wouldn't bother with a powerhead (unless trying to qt an Achilles/sohal tang etc). Just point the return of the canister at the surface. I just use an air stone with no filter. A bacterial starter like dr tim's would be fine. Another way to manage ammonia is just monitor it and do water changes and add Prime as needed. Another thing...Don't rush. Take your time. Don't add everything at once. Nothing good happens fast here. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

05/18/2018, 08:18 AM	#5
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	20L or 29 will be perfect for that. Good luck. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

05/19/2018, 07:56 AM	#8
Thornbreaker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 334	If you add ammonia to start cycling, you'll need to wait till cycle is complete to add fish. So if you dose to 2ppm ammonia, add bacteria, then wait for ammonia to drop to 0. And preferably nitrites to 0 as well. It may take a few days to as long as weeks even with Dr. Tim's. Sent from my SM-G965U1 using Tapatalk __________________ SC Aquariums - 150 Gallon 5'x2'x2'; Trigger Elite 36 Sump; Mars Aqua Lights 150 lbs reefcleaner rock, SCA 302 Skimmer Current Stock: Foxface lo, 2 clowns, royal gramma, 2 spot bristletooth tang, fir

05/20/2018, 11:37 AM	#10
lagatbezan Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,109	you can also use instant ocean bio-spira. It has live bacteria in it that will instantly cycle your qt. I usually put a sponge in a cup and add the bio spira to the sponge. Let it sit for half a day and then put it in the qt. Also get an ammonia badge. They are great. I still suggest doing regular water changes for the qt. __________________ Ryan. 300g with velocity t4 for return and a Reflo dart on a closed loop, T5 lights & SRO3000 skimmer. Current Tank Info: 300g

05/18/2018, 07:48 AM	#3
Thornbreaker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 334	You can totally be QTing while you're still setting up your display tank. I did the same thing. Just moved my 2 clowns over to the DT yesterday that were in QT since February. Gave me a good chance to practice water changes, feeding, observation, etc too. I also did Tank Transfer Method prior to placing my 2 clowns into a 20 gallon QT. I'd recommend it. I did cycle my QT, but what nereefpat says is true to, you can do it either way. If you cycle it, you just need to make sure there's enough surface area. I had a HOB filter and an air sponge.

05/18/2018, 08:33 AM	#6
Bryce H. Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 26	Thanks for the help and quick response!