Apex and heaters and fans?

nbd13 · 12/17/2018, 12:01 PM

Hi,

2 questions:

1. Can the Apex control heaters? If so what heaters are compatible? Would like to hook 2 heaters up to the controller in case they ever get stuck in the “on” position and the tank temp starts to climb the apex controller can shut them off. Is this possible?

2. Can the apex control small 3-4” fans? I use these in my canopy and stand to keep air moving and things cool. Is it possible to hookup a few of these?

Thanks,

Nick

vhuang168 · 12/17/2018, 02:43 PM

The Apex can control anything that plugs into a wall outlet.

nbd13 · 12/17/2018, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vhuang168

The Apex can control anything that plugs into a wall outlet.

Thanks and how do I set it up to control these things? Do I need any extra modules or no?

Nick

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vhuang168 · 12/17/2018, 04:50 PM

No, they plug into the energy bar.

nbd13 · 12/17/2018, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vhuang168

No, they plug into the energy bar.

Then how do you control them?

Nick

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jawaiianmon · 12/17/2018, 07:47 PM

You program the main unit to tell the things plugged into the energy bar when to turn on/off based on time/probes/etc. You program via the display/dashboard/Fusion. Search for Neptune Apex comprehensive manual.

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tomreefer · 12/18/2018, 03:47 PM

With 2 heaters I do the following.

Heater (1)
Fallback ON
If Tmp < 75.9 Then ON
If Tmp > 76.0 Then OFF

Heater (2)
Fallback ON
If Tmp <75.5 Then ON
If Tmp >75.8 Then OFF

nbd13 · 12/18/2018, 07:01 PM

Thanks. I’ll have to look into how to program the main unit energy bar.

Nick

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tomreefer · 12/18/2018, 07:11 PM

My understanding is with Fallback ON if Apex fails the heater will use its control instead. Therefore, I use Fallback on for heaters, pumps but not return on my system or ATO.. I would though not use Fallback ON with both heaters just your main one.. If this makes sense.

Main_Heater (1)
Fallback ON
If Tmp < 75.9 Then ON
If Tmp > 76.0 Then OFF

Heater (2)
Fallback OFF
If Tmp <75.5 Then ON
If Tmp >75.8 Then OFF

On my Apex I also have two virtual outlets Temp_Low and Temp_High

For my fan I use the following:

Fan
Fallback OFF
If Output Temp_High = ON Then ON
If Output Temp_High = OFF Then OFF

12/17/2018, 12:01 PM	#1
nbd13 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Charlotte, Michigan Posts: 3,259	Apex and heaters and fans? Hi, 2 questions: 1. Can the Apex control heaters? If so what heaters are compatible? Would like to hook 2 heaters up to the controller in case they ever get stuck in the “on” position and the tank temp starts to climb the apex controller can shut them off. Is this possible? 2. Can the apex control small 3-4” fans? I use these in my canopy and stand to keep air moving and things cool. Is it possible to hookup a few of these? Thanks, Nick

12/17/2018, 02:43 PM	#2
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	The Apex can control anything that plugs into a wall outlet. __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

12/17/2018, 04:50 PM	#4
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	No, they plug into the energy bar. __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

12/17/2018, 07:47 PM	#6
jawaiianmon Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Satellite Beach, FL Posts: 200	You program the main unit to tell the things plugged into the energy bar when to turn on/off based on time/probes/etc. You program via the display/dashboard/Fusion. Search for Neptune Apex comprehensive manual. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

12/18/2018, 03:47 PM	#7
tomreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 767	With 2 heaters I do the following. Heater (1) Fallback ON If Tmp < 75.9 Then ON If Tmp > 76.0 Then OFF Heater (2) Fallback ON If Tmp <75.5 Then ON If Tmp >75.8 Then OFF

12/18/2018, 07:01 PM	#8
nbd13 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Charlotte, Michigan Posts: 3,259	Thanks. I’ll have to look into how to program the main unit energy bar. Nick Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/18/2018, 07:11 PM	#9
tomreefer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 767	My understanding is with Fallback ON if Apex fails the heater will use its control instead. Therefore, I use Fallback on for heaters, pumps but not return on my system or ATO.. I would though not use Fallback ON with both heaters just your main one.. If this makes sense. Main_Heater (1) Fallback ON If Tmp < 75.9 Then ON If Tmp > 76.0 Then OFF Heater (2) Fallback OFF If Tmp <75.5 Then ON If Tmp >75.8 Then OFF On my Apex I also have two virtual outlets Temp_Low and Temp_High For my fan I use the following: Fan Fallback OFF If Output Temp_High = ON Then ON If Output Temp_High = OFF Then OFF