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Old 04/18/2017, 06:00 AM   #326
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Morning guys. Have a quick question, but I might be too early and jumping the gun, so please tell me if I should just wait. Have a new setup that I picked up a mini 160 for. Tank is still cycling, high amonia, decent nitrites. High Ph. I wanted to get a head start on breaking in the skimmer, so I let it run in the tank for 16 hours. Ran it for a little without the cup, too many bubbles, so I left it overnight with collection cup on but open drain port so the water wont fill it.

16 hours in it won't stop overflowing, skimmer is fully open, so I can't slow it down any. Thought?


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Old 04/18/2017, 08:50 AM   #327
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Morning guys. Have a quick question, but I might be too early and jumping the gun, so please tell me if I should just wait. Have a new setup that I picked up a mini 160 for. Tank is still cycling, high amonia, decent nitrites. High Ph. I wanted to get a head start on breaking in the skimmer, so I let it run in the tank for 16 hours. Ran it for a little without the cup, too many bubbles, so I left it overnight with collection cup on but open drain port so the water wont fill it.

16 hours in it won't stop overflowing, skimmer is fully open, so I can't slow it down any. Thought?
It's pretty soon but the key question is how deep it is in the sump. Also, if you have used Epoxy in the tank or new live rock, there could be a lot of dissolved organics in the water. If it's continually overflowing and the wedge pipe is wide open, you need to raise the skimmer or lower the sump level until you find a spot that the overflowing subsides. You want the line where bubbles turn to foam to be about 1" below the white pvc part that is bonded to the upper part of the body. There should be a line on the skimmer body to note that point.


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Old 04/18/2017, 09:08 AM   #328
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It's pretty soon but the key question is how deep it is in the sump. Also, if you have used Epoxy in the tank or new live rock, there could be a lot of dissolved organics in the water. If it's continually overflowing and the wedge pipe is wide open, you need to raise the skimmer or lower the sump level until you find a spot that the overflowing subsides. You want the line where bubbles turn to foam to be about 1" below the white pvc part that is bonded to the upper part of the body. There should be a line on the skimmer body to note that point.
It's in 11" of water, I read it was cool to go up to 12"? Is that correct?

I guess I will be building a stand today


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Old 04/18/2017, 11:55 AM   #329
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It's in 11" of water, I read it was cool to go up to 12"? Is that correct?

I guess I will be building a stand today
That is WAY too deep. Not sure where you read that but 22cm depth which is about 8.5" is the max recommended depth per the manual..
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Old 04/18/2017, 12:12 PM   #330
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What water height would be good for a DC200? I have a very light load for now and can't produce much skimmate at all at the moment. The manual says either 170mm or 220mm is preferred but I don't understand why they give 2 points.


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Old 04/18/2017, 01:03 PM   #331
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What water height would be good for a DC200? I have a very light load for now and can't produce much skimmate at all at the moment. The manual says either 170mm or 220mm is preferred but I don't understand why they give 2 points.


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They provide a range because the ideal depth depends greatly on the load in the display as well as the pump speed. A heavier load requires less depth than a lighter load due to the fact that the more dissolved organics in the water, the higher the line where bubbles turn to foam will be since there are more proteins in the water for the bubbles to bind to. That results in more foam vs bubbles that just burst at the surface since they can't bind together to form foam. The higher the pump speed is run, the higher the water level. The manual states 20-25cm depth. In the case of a light load relative to the skimmer, you will want it at the higher end of that range so you don't need to close the wedge pipe too much. I'd suggest a pump speed of 28-30 watts and a depth of around 9". With a light load, I would aim to have the line where bubbles turn to foam about 1/4" - 1/2" above the white PVC collar where the cup attaches to the body. You will be looking for that line in the skimmers neck. Keep in mind that the skimmer will only remove the dissolved organics that are in the water to be skimmed out. If you aren't producing skimmate, it's because the amount of DOC's in the water are so low that there isn't much to produce. You can always raise the level up in the skimmer and run it wetter or run the pump speed higher if you want to have something in the cup to clean out.

Page 2 of the manual discusses the depth ranges for the Double Cones.
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Old 04/18/2017, 01:23 PM   #332
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Old 04/19/2017, 10:46 AM   #333
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I have a relatively light load, with the DC200, I'm at 9" with the pump at 30w.


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Old 04/19/2017, 11:08 AM   #334
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I checked last night and am at 9" as well with pump on 29w


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Pipe about 3/4 closed as well


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Old 04/19/2017, 11:17 AM   #336
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That should be fine. You could increase the sump level another half an inch and open the pipe up some but if you increase your load in the display, you will end up needing to lower the sump level vs opening the wedge pipe.


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Old 04/19/2017, 08:29 PM   #337
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I run my dc200 in 9in of water on 34 for my tank.

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Old 04/19/2017, 08:50 PM   #338
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Ok I'm gonna slowly bump up my pump speed to see if I can get it to run a little more consistent even if it's wet.


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Old Yesterday, 11:30 PM   #339
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Slief,

I am starting to run into the F8 code more and more often. I have the red ozone tube drawing air also now.

Tonight I raised the skimmer level from 9" to 8.75". To see if that would help. It did not.

I have cleaned out the venturi, almost weekly. Have opened the pump and cleaned that out probably 5 times in the 3 months I have had it.

Today I took the silencer off and just have the ozone tube and regular tube open with no ubstruction

I have to run the pump at 36 watts in order for me not to get the code. Anything less I get the code.

Thanks in advance for your help


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Slief,

I am starting to run into the F8 code more and more often. I have the red ozone tube drawing air also now.

Tonight I raised the skimmer level from 9" to 8.75". To see if that would help. It did not.

I have cleaned out the venturi, almost weekly. Have opened the pump and cleaned that out probably 5 times in the 3 months I have had it.

Today I took the silencer off and just have the ozone tube and regular tube open with no ubstruction

I have to run the pump at 36 watts in order for me not to get the code. Anything less I get the code.

Thanks in advance for your help
Hmm. I will PM you.


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