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Unread 03/29/2019, 02:47 PM   #1
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I made the switch back

My lighting journey began 15 years ago with 250wHQI. Next came power compact , t12, ati t5, radions, cheap led boxes, ati t5 again, and I’ve just reinstalled 250w SE AGAIN. Whew. This time it is the non led version of the reefbrite mh.

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Has changed since I’ve done mh. My question is... what is the best 250w SE mh lamp for coral growth and then color?

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Unread 03/29/2019, 07:59 PM   #2
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Unread 03/30/2019, 05:56 AM   #3
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Looking good, if I could afford the maintenance of SE or HQI I would go back to halides too... loved Radiums and Pheonix bulbs.


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Unread 03/30/2019, 07:33 AM   #4
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I switched back also about one month ago.

8 years: t5 to mh to black boxes to t5 and back to mh now.

Best color is purely subjective. That depends on what you think looks most pleasing. Everyone will disagree on what looks best. I am currently running hamilton 14k SE, I wonder if growth would Improve further if I switched to 10k


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Unread 03/30/2019, 07:40 AM   #5
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10k will almost certainly increase growth assuming the required elements are there. Only tough part is that it looks yellow like swimming in shallow ocean water. My favorite combo is still XM 10k with actinic supplementation (4x110w vho superactinic at the time, don't think they make those anymore).

The Xmas 10k made red and purple iridesce in a way I've never seen from another bulb or light type. Let us know how it goes


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Unread 03/30/2019, 07:54 AM   #6
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10k will almost certainly increase growth assuming the required elements are there. Only tough part is that it looks yellow like swimming in shallow ocean water. My favorite combo is still XM 10k with actinic supplementation (4x110w vho superactinic at the time, don't think they make those anymore).

The Xmas 10k made red and purple iridesce in a way I've never seen from another bulb or light type. Let us know how it goes


I like a shallow water look. I ran xm10k years ago and loved them. The 14k are super blue to me. Not bad by any means just very blue


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Unread 03/30/2019, 09:57 AM   #7
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Here are comparison pics with the 2 reefbreeders bars on and then off
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Unread 03/30/2019, 09:58 AM   #8
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I think I could go w a more yellow lamp and still look good


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Unread 03/30/2019, 09:58 AM   #9
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I switched back also about one month ago.

8 years: t5 to mh to black boxes to t5 and back to mh now.

Best color is purely subjective. That depends on what you think looks most pleasing. Everyone will disagree on what looks best. I am currently running hamilton 14k SE, I wonder if growth would Improve further if I switched to 10k


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Love your tank man
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Unread 03/30/2019, 10:02 AM   #10
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You don’t happen to be using the reefbrite dimmable ballasts ?
I have the varispeed cables but I’m not able to work it right. When I hook the cables in they just dim and come back up over and over


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You don’t happen to be using the reefbrite dimmable ballasts ?
I have the varispeed cables but I’m not able to work it right. When I hook the cables in they just dim and come back up over and over


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That’s a bit beyond me honestly. Those are pretty new ballasts I haven’t looked into them much. I’m running Lumen Bright mini’s on hamilton m58 ballasts


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Unread 03/30/2019, 11:24 AM   #12
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Truthfully searching for bulbs is depressing. Most the big sites are obviously liquidating their supply of halide bulbs and only stocking the $100 a pop giesemanns now, which I’ve heard deliver abysmal par numbers.

I intend to use most of my coral sale proceeds to stock up on bulbs that way when they’re no longer available I’ll be able to hold out longer before going to the dark side. Just not sure how much longer they’ll hold out.


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Unread 03/30/2019, 03:22 PM   #13
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Personally I’ve always had good color and growth with Radiums. I have used VHO, T5 and led strips (all actinic ) as supplements but any way have always been happy with growth and color.


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Unread 04/06/2019, 10:34 PM   #14
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Both DE Phoenix 14K bulbs and SE Radium bulbs are available from Premium Aquatics and Bulkreefsupply.


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I can't imagine wanting more growth than what I had with my radiums and electronic ballasts on the HQI setting. The colors they produce and the and the way it makes corals look is stunning in my opinion.


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I can't imagine wanting more growth than what I had with my radiums and electronic ballasts on the HQI setting. The colors they produce and the and the way it makes corals look is stunning in my opinion.
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Picture please? : )
The growth really took off after TOTM and it was a constant struggle to keep up with cutting things back.

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Ohmy...super nice! Thank you for the pics!


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The best growth and coloration I had was from x4 Blue Plus Bulbs with x2 250w 10k bulbs from amazon. I had undergrowth on my montipora plates and the tank looked bright and colorful.


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Unread 05/16/2019, 04:40 PM   #20
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Hamilton technology also sells bulbs....


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I can't imagine wanting more growth than what I had with my radiums and electronic ballasts on the HQI setting. The colors they produce and the and the way it makes corals look is stunning in my opinion.
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Unread 06/11/2019, 03:13 PM   #22
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Reeflux 12K and Phoenix 14K were my favorite bulbs - always produced a very pleasing white / neutral color but the corals all had good color. I'm a fan of the sunnier looking reef though.


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Unread 06/11/2019, 03:21 PM   #23
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Reeflux 12K and Phoenix 14K were my favorite bulbs - always produced a very pleasing white / neutral color but the corals all had good color. I'm a fan of the sunnier looking reef though.


I’m bummed I never got to try out reeflux 12k. Would be awesome if someone knew what the bulbs actual commercial name/number is. I’m betting it is still produced


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I’m bummed I never got to try out reeflux 12k. Would be awesome if someone knew what the bulbs actual commercial name/number is. I’m betting it is still produced


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Not sure, their website is a little wonky but saltycritter shows they have them. I doubt that’s the case though but worth a shot.


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Unread 06/11/2019, 06:13 PM   #25
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Not sure, their website is a little wonky but saltycritter shows they have them. I doubt that’s the case though but worth a shot.


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Thanks for the heads up. New build in the works that will have 3-250 watt halides. Was going to run a hamilton 10k in the center but if I can get the reeflux I’m all over it. I sent them an email asking if that was accurate that they still have them


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