Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment
Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 04/06/2019, 10:40 AM   #3276
dadnjesse
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Raymond NH
Posts: 210
Is there an updated list of which model type is best the ones listed at the beginning I can't find and the thread was started in 2014


dadnjesse is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/13/2019, 04:23 PM   #3277
FishProf
Registered Member
 
FishProf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 326
I'll go with any of the brushless models (quiet and zero maintenance). I got a 7551-00 and a 7522-20. Both are remotely controlled by the Apex varspeed outlets. The nice thing with these is that your can change the scale of the remote [that is, you can set in the MF unit what speed 0 volt is what speed 10 volt is]. I use one for continuous water change (with a two-channel head) and one for the calcium reactor.
I got both on ebay. It took some tenacity and thick skin (for making low bids), but I got one for $600 and the other for $350.


FishProf is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/02/2019, 04:01 PM   #3278
gsoler
Registered Member
 
gsoler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bogotá (Colombia)
Posts: 5
77301-22 with long jumps

I am new with the masterflex.
I have the 77301-22 with engine 77301-21, from 10 to 600 rpm.
At the moment I am trying to configure it and I realize that the increments are 10 ml .. When you put the measure of tube 17, it says 30 ml. in the display. until then everything normal, but trying to increase it goes to 40, 50, 60 and so on, I need 45 ml. Is this normal or is something missing in the configuration?
I thank you in advance for the help you can give me with this topic.
thank you


gsoler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/02/2019, 06:10 PM   #3279
slief
RC Sponsor

 
slief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsoler View Post
I am new with the masterflex.
I have the 77301-22 with engine 77301-21, from 10 to 600 rpm.
At the moment I am trying to configure it and I realize that the increments are 10 ml .. When you put the measure of tube 17, it says 30 ml. in the display. until then everything normal, but trying to increase it goes to 40, 50, 60 and so on, I need 45 ml. Is this normal or is something missing in the configuration?
I thank you in advance for the help you can give me with this topic.
thank you
If the increments are 10ml and the minimum is 30ml then it’s functioning normally. If this is being used for a calcium reactor you will have to run at 50ml and run your pH at a slightly higher level or run at 30ml and run your pH at a slightly low level. If you are using it for dosing, you might need to dilute your concentration slightly and run at 50ml.

That said, the flow rates will be limited to the head model, RPM adjustablity of the motor/controller and the tubing you are using.


__________________
Director Customer Support Royal Exclusiv USA
For All Royal Exclusiv & Bubble King questions please refer to our Sponsor forum: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745

Current Tank Info: 480G display mixed reef, 90G sump, 90G refugium, 60G display refugium. Check out my build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1783476
slief is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/03/2019, 11:34 AM   #3280
tkeracer619
Registered Member
 
tkeracer619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 17,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsoler View Post
I am new with the masterflex.
I have the 77301-22 with engine 77301-21, from 10 to 600 rpm.
At the moment I am trying to configure it and I realize that the increments are 10 ml .. When you put the measure of tube 17, it says 30 ml. in the display. until then everything normal, but trying to increase it goes to 40, 50, 60 and so on, I need 45 ml. Is this normal or is something missing in the configuration?
I thank you in advance for the help you can give me with this topic.
thank you
Switch to RPM mode. Then you should be able to control it more precisely.

If using LS17 Tubing, each revolution is 2.833ml. 16RPM will give you 45.33ml/min


__________________
Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers.
Current Tank:
Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.
tkeracer619 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/03/2019, 11:35 AM   #3281
tkeracer619
Registered Member
 
tkeracer619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 17,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by dadnjesse View Post
Is there an updated list of which model type is best the ones listed at the beginning I can't find and the thread was started in 2014

I haven't been keeping track but will try to give my ColeParmer guy a call and see if he can provide me with a list of all part numbers that fit our criteria.


__________________
Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers.
Current Tank:
Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.
tkeracer619 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/03/2019, 05:06 PM   #3282
gsoler
Registered Member
 
gsoler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bogotá (Colombia)
Posts: 5
slief, tkeracer619 Thank you for your answers. Excuse me, I use it in a calcium reactor. Now at least I know it's not defective. And yes, by RPM it is the best option although there are others like using the OTHER SIZE settings, or actually using another size of tubing like # 16. But now and as long as the 5 feet I buy from tubing # 17 lasts I'll use the RPM mode. Again, thank you very much for your answers and help.
Regards


gsoler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/09/2019, 06:23 PM   #3283
lionfish300
Registered Member
 
lionfish300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 795
Will this work for a Calcium reactor? Masterflex L/S Console Drive 7521-40 6-600 RPM w/ 2 heads


lionfish300 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/10/2019, 10:53 AM   #3284
tkeracer619
Registered Member
 
tkeracer619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 17,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by lionfish300 View Post
Will this work for a Calcium reactor? Masterflex L/S Console Drive 7521-40 6-600 RPM w/ 2 heads
Yes, it's not a brushless unit so it can be a little noisy. Not an issue if in a fish room.

The head part numbers are important though, ideally you want ones that are compatible with LS17 tubing.

Edit: The one in the for sale forum? Yes, the drive and pump heads will work


__________________
Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers.
Current Tank:
Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

Last edited by tkeracer619; 07/10/2019 at 11:16 AM.
tkeracer619 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/10/2019, 09:53 PM   #3285
lionfish300
Registered Member
 
lionfish300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico
Posts: 795
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkeracer619 View Post
Yes, it's not a brushless unit so it can be a little noisy. Not an issue if in a fish room.

The head part numbers are important though, ideally you want ones that are compatible with LS17 tubing.

Edit: The one in the for sale forum? Yes, the drive and pump heads will work
Thanks you


lionfish300 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/11/2019, 07:40 AM   #3286
souk
Registered Member
 
souk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 98
Issues with M/F model 7551-00. Anybody know how to clear out error code 11? Pressing buttons won't do anything but beep. TIA

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk


__________________
185 DSA, 40br Sump w/some stuff in it
ATI 8x80 w/bulbs
souk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/11/2019, 07:49 AM   #3287
slief
RC Sponsor

 
slief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by souk View Post
Issues with M/F model 7551-00. Anybody know how to clear out error code 11? Pressing buttons won't do anything but beep. TIA

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
According to the manual, the input voltage is either too low or the board has an issue. Pressing any key should clear the error if the issue is corrected. My suggestion would be to check the wall power voltage to make sure you are providing 110v to it and not lower. If all else fails, contact Cole Parmer support if you can’t resolve it.


__________________
Director Customer Support Royal Exclusiv USA
For All Royal Exclusiv & Bubble King questions please refer to our Sponsor forum: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745

Current Tank Info: 480G display mixed reef, 90G sump, 90G refugium, 60G display refugium. Check out my build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1783476
slief is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/11/2019, 08:12 AM   #3288
souk
Registered Member
 
souk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 98
Quote:
Originally Posted by slief View Post
According to the manual, the input voltage is either too low or the board has an issue. Pressing any key should clear the error if the issue is corrected. My suggestion would be to check the wall power voltage to make sure you are providing 110v to it and not lower. If all else fails, contact Cole Parmer support if you can’t resolve it.
Thanks, I'll contact cole parmer since I can't clear it with other outlets.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk


__________________
185 DSA, 40br Sump w/some stuff in it
ATI 8x80 w/bulbs
souk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/11/2019, 11:53 AM   #3289
souk
Registered Member
 
souk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 98
Since there is going to be some down time on my pump. I was thinking of picking up the Kamoer FX-STP. Would any body know the conversion from LS 17 which I think is 1/4 to 1/8th which is on the FX? I really don't want to pickup something that I would max or can't handle it. I was running it at about 54 mil p/m.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk


__________________
185 DSA, 40br Sump w/some stuff in it
ATI 8x80 w/bulbs
souk is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/19/2019, 08:45 PM   #3290
biglurr54
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Averill Park NY
Posts: 406
I picked up a master flex 7550-60 so I can tune my reactor better. The 7550 is replacing a 7520-00. The old ones start up when power is applied. Then 7550 requires me to press the start button. I remember reading about an auto start feature for the pump. I just can't find it now. Does anyone know how to turn on the auto start feature so it picks up where it left off and continues to run after the power is cut to it?

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk


biglurr54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/21/2019, 05:30 PM   #3291
tkeracer619
Registered Member
 
tkeracer619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 17,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by souk View Post
Since there is going to be some down time on my pump.
What did they say?


__________________
Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers.
Current Tank:
Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.
tkeracer619 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/21/2019, 11:08 PM   #3292
slief
RC Sponsor

 
slief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by souk View Post
Since there is going to be some down time on my pump. I was thinking of picking up the Kamoer FX-STP. Would any body know the conversion from LS 17 which I think is 1/4 to 1/8th which is on the FX? I really don't want to pickup something that I would max or can't handle it. I was running it at about 54 mil p/m.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
The Kamoer can be set in ml/min and maxes out at around 120ml/min so you’d be fine for the time being and have an OK backup pump once you get your Masterflex fixed. I think there is a 3 roller head you can get for it which increases the output but there wouldn’t be any need for that at your flow rate except to reduce the stress on the motor and increase the tubing longevity a bit. I think that head is only available from overseas though. While the Kamoer’s are OK pumps, the Masterflex pumps are far better IMO despite the issue you had. But like I said, have a Kamoer as a backup wouldn't be a bad thing.


__________________
Director Customer Support Royal Exclusiv USA
For All Royal Exclusiv & Bubble King questions please refer to our Sponsor forum: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745

Current Tank Info: 480G display mixed reef, 90G sump, 90G refugium, 60G display refugium. Check out my build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1783476

Last edited by slief; 07/21/2019 at 11:14 PM.
slief is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/22/2019, 11:00 AM   #3293
tkeracer619
Registered Member
 
tkeracer619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Westminster, CO
Posts: 17,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by biglurr54 View Post
I picked up a master flex 7550-60 so I can tune my reactor better. The 7550 is replacing a 7520-00. The old ones start up when power is applied. Then 7550 requires me to press the start button. I remember reading about an auto start feature for the pump. I just can't find it now. Does anyone know how to turn on the auto start feature so it picks up where it left off and continues to run after the power is cut to it?

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
There is a manual posted online, I tried to read through it but was pretty distracted by the baby so I may have missed it. I didn't see an auto start function and the insert for the manual (that likely has the pinout for the plug on the back) wasn't in it. I'm sure there is a way to do it, but will take some digging.


__________________
Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers.
Current Tank:
Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.
tkeracer619 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/22/2019, 09:28 PM   #3294
biglurr54
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Averill Park NY
Posts: 406
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkeracer619 View Post
There is a manual posted online, I tried to read through it but was pretty distracted by the baby so I may have missed it. I didn't see an auto start function and the insert for the manual (that likely has the pinout for the plug on the back) wasn't in it. I'm sure there is a way to do it, but will take some digging.
Yea. I got a new masterflex because I don't like how it doesn't have the auto start feature. I wonder if I figured out the pin out then hooked it to apex, would it then auto start after power failures? Would I have to program the doseage in apex then?

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk


biglurr54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/22/2019, 09:30 PM   #3295
biglurr54
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Averill Park NY
Posts: 406
Also why is it preferred to get a 10-600rpm vs the 0-100 rpm. 100 rpm with ls17 is 283ml/hr. Most of use aren't approaching half of that.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk


biglurr54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/23/2019, 08:07 AM   #3296
slief
RC Sponsor

 
slief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by biglurr54 View Post
Also why is it preferred to get a 10-600rpm vs the 0-100 rpm. 100 rpm with ls17 is 283ml/hr. Most of use aren't approaching half of that.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
Because the gears on the 600 RPM motor reduce the speed on the motor 6x which means substantially less wear and tear on the motor resulting in increased longevity on the motor itself.


__________________
Director Customer Support Royal Exclusiv USA
For All Royal Exclusiv & Bubble King questions please refer to our Sponsor forum: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745

Current Tank Info: 480G display mixed reef, 90G sump, 90G refugium, 60G display refugium. Check out my build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1783476
slief is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/23/2019, 09:00 AM   #3297
Bpb
Registered Member
 
Bpb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,148
Quote:
Originally Posted by biglurr54 View Post
Also why is it preferred to get a 10-600rpm vs the 0-100 rpm. 100 rpm with ls17 is 283ml/hr. Most of use aren't approaching half of that.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk


Also even the brushless 100 rpm models can be fairly noisy at realistic operating speeds vs the 600 rpm ones. But yeah, bigger motor ran slower will be more silent and last longer than a smaller motor run faster


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Bpb is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/23/2019, 09:07 AM   #3298
biglurr54
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Averill Park NY
Posts: 406
That makes sense. One of these days I'm going to get a pair of the right masterflex pumps......

Right now I have 2x 7520-00 a 7550-30 and a 7523-30.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk


biglurr54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/23/2019, 09:48 AM   #3299
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
 
ostrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Oak Park, IL
Posts: 11,654
Leaks

Every few weeks now my tubing springs a leak. This didn't used to happen.

Anyone know the cause or the fix?

It's LS17 tubing. I am . out of town (of course) and don't have the pump model but it's not the brushless.


__________________
It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml!

Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(
ostrow is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07/23/2019, 03:04 PM   #3300
slief
RC Sponsor

 
slief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 14,173
Quote:
Originally Posted by ostrow View Post
Every few weeks now my tubing springs a leak. This didn't used to happen.

Anyone know the cause or the fix?

It's LS17 tubing. I am . out of town (of course) and don't have the pump model but it's not the brushless.
It would have to be something wrong with your head or you are using the clear tubing at higher speeds and it’s eating the tubing up in which case, you could try the pharmed stuff. Or if you have adjustable occlusions, maybe they aren’t adjusted properly.


__________________
Director Customer Support Royal Exclusiv USA
For All Royal Exclusiv & Bubble King questions please refer to our Sponsor forum: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=745

Current Tank Info: 480G display mixed reef, 90G sump, 90G refugium, 60G display refugium. Check out my build thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1783476
slief is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.