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View Poll Results: Which Anthias to choose | |||
Carberryi | 1 | 7.69% | |
Bartlett's | 3 | 23.08% | |
Bimaculatus | 2 | 15.38% | |
Lyretail | 7 | 53.85% | |
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11/19/2017, 09:56 AM | #1 |
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help choosing an anthias
After years of trying and failing at keeping dispars, I decided I was going to give the carberryi's a try. Lately I've been leaning towards maybe going with the bartlets anthias. I have been trying to search and read about them but everything I can find are threads from years ago and wondering if the information was still accurate. My findings were that bartlets were aggressive and eventually they would all end up turning into males. I love the coloration of the bartlets but really want a nice school. Every carberryi I have seen in the local stores is super pale, like almost white and definitely not colored anything like the ones online. The bimaculatus is also a strong favorite but I haven't done and reading up on those because I would probably have to add 2-3 of those at a time due to cost. The wife then throws a curve ball at me that she like the lyretails the best. Just town on what to do with anthias. Any thoughts or inputs?
I would definitely like an active schooling fish that's pretty hardy and doesn't require a ton of feedings each day. I can feed in the morning and evening no problem. I know the lyretails are going to be the response but I feel like everyone has them and they coloration just really doesn't do a whole lot for me
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11/19/2017, 11:34 AM | #2 |
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Depends a little on tankmates. Carberryi are smaller than the other three, and more likely to be intimidated by larger tankmates. I personally don't like Lyretails as they are just too likely to pick each other off. Bartletts will end up as multiple males, though they'll coexist if introduced concurrently. I'd lean to bimacs of the four. Not that much more expensive than the Bartlett. Start with all females. Only downside to the bimac is that they need lots of swimming room and males do fade a bit in captivity.
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I added 3 Bartletts and 3 Lyretails to my 180. Pretty sure the Bartletts picked off the lyretails. The Bartletts have been in my tank for 2 or 3 years (can't remember). One is definitely male, one seems kind of male (sub-dominant male?) and one seems to be female. The dominant male keeps the other possible male in check, keeping him in the rockwork. They're a very pretty fish and mine seem to have gotten nicer looking with time but they're too aggressive for my taste and don't spend too much time cruising the tank, mostly dominant male hovering over sub-dominant male in the rocks with female nearby. Maybe in a bigger tank or if you kept a group of more than three where any aggression by the dominant male could be more dispersed, things would be different. I'm pretty sure if I tried to add more to my tank now, they wouldn't last long. I'd get something different next time.
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Hardiest and most cost effective would be lyretails for sure. Bartletts are hardy, but ime, lyretails are even more so. Another suggestion is bicolor anthias. also super hardy
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11/23/2017, 09:52 AM | #10 |
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Bimacs a favorite. Although they're larger than most other species, their metabolisms are every bit as super-charged and they may require multiple feedings daily to really thrive, especially the younger ones. QT is a must but hardy once healthy.
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12/11/2017, 02:19 PM | #11 |
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Lyretail ate right away and doing well. I would get all females and let the dominate change sex to male.
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12/11/2017, 05:52 PM | #12 |
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I have never seen a group of Anthias over 5 unless they were in a huge tank... 700g+
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I just bought 4 lyretails from liveaquaria last week to add two my 2. 5 died within 2 days and took out my 7 year old lawnmower blenny as well. Don’t do it! The fish store down on Hillsboro east of the airport has awesome Anthias always in stock and for 25 a piece. Never again will I buy liveaquaria fish.
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Picture .... or it's a myth.
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Love to see it !!
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Seriously. I’d love to see a pic of that also. Same as others. I’ve done Bartlett’s. Same also aggressive picked off till just one male. Looked great but was a bully. Then later did lyretails. One male 4 females. Same thing. Aggressive picked each other off. This time I did three fathead anthias. They don’t swim open water much. Just hang by rocks mostly. But their nice also and no aggression at all. Almost kinda boring besides the fact they look nice lol
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I’m cruious to see this shoal too.
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what size tank is that and how long have you had that group? Did you add them all at the same time?
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