Locline "Penductors" ? - Page 5

ddinox64 · 08/24/2009, 10:30 PM

Hey tankslave, AKA Lars. I have these on my tank. I could have shown you how I made them.

I made the ring on the end of mine a little narrower and snapped a 1/2 LL inside it. But I may try to mod the other set I have simulate a nozzle more like TheOwns.

Snakebyt · 08/24/2009, 11:23 PM

does this look like i cut enough, or you think i should cut more toward the top?

im thinking of trying it on this adapter, but i only have 1 of them

james3370 · 08/24/2009, 11:54 PM

i think your openings look good. as far as the loc-line reducer, the only problem i see in doing it on the reducer is that the water being funneled down to the 1/2 end would hit the side that would be cutout & water would come out the cutouts instead of allowing it to get forced in....so i don't think they'd work

here are a few links to them if you decide to buy more to try.....

* bulk reef supply - $2.99
* marinedepot - $5.99 (boy they sure are proud of those huh??

* modularhose - $6.00/pk of 2

tankslave · 08/25/2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ddinox64
Hey tankslave, AKA Lars. I have these on my tank. I could have shown you how I made them.

That's where I saw them!!! Dude, I came home last night and saw this thread and was trippin cause I couldnt remember where I saw them! Maybe next time I'm up you're way I'll stop by and take a closer look. I have a couple of Tat's (RIO) cheapie penductors, and those work OK. I like this idea though because it's a little more low profile.

Snakebyt · 08/25/2009, 01:15 AM

thanks for the input, time to make another one to match

The0wn4g3 · 08/25/2009, 02:57 PM

Cuts look good. I'd try that reducer and just see what happens. Ya never know!

ibnozn · 08/25/2009, 03:35 PM

These look sweet. I know what I'm doing when I get home from work.
I have the store bought ones but they're kind of huge.

A couple of thoughts:
1. Would it be any cleaner to do the notches by drilling two holes, off center, all the way through the locline - then notching out each side with a hacksaw?
2. To constrict the flow for a better venturi on other DIY eductors I have used sawed off pvc barb fittings. Nylon also works too. Some sanding and pounding is required for a proper fit. Might be good try on these.

ddinox64 · 08/25/2009, 05:43 PM

Snake. Make the openings bigger to draw more water in.

On the adapter. It would work excellent if you were using 1/2" returns. Because the 3/4" bell is much larger giving you space to cut out and the 1/2" for the pressure.

The stock peductors are sort of big and intrusive. That's what's nice about this. No bigger than the link itself.

customcolor · 12/14/2009, 05:19 PM

bump for a good mod......i used it in my 150xt and it works great

erics3000 · 05/05/2010, 06:06 PM

COol idea

vair · 04/06/2013, 05:21 PM

I just read this cool idea and thought it was worth a bump...

IANick · 05/27/2013, 02:01 PM

It "IS" a cool idea, and worth another bump. I'm wondering if those who have been using these for a few years remain convinced about the effectiveness of this mod? In other words, are these REALLY drawing water in and therefore increasing flow? Or is it simply increased velocity of existing flow? Anyone had a chance to properly evaluate the flow increase?

But assuming all remain convinced about the flow increase, these look to be solving two concerns for me:

1) lower profile outlet nozzle so that I can more easily hide the loclines in the rockwork of my upcoming build; and

2) reduced need for a pressure rated pump

Great stuff!

08/24/2009, 11:54 PM	#103
james3370 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US ARMY - El Paso TX Posts: 3,678	i think your openings look good. as far as the loc-line reducer, the only problem i see in doing it on the reducer is that the water being funneled down to the 1/2 end would hit the side that would be cutout & water would come out the cutouts instead of allowing it to get forced in....so i don't think they'd work here are a few links to them if you decide to buy more to try..... * bulk reef supply - $2.99 * marinedepot - $5.99 (boy they sure are proud of those huh?? * modularhose - $6.00/pk of 2 __________________ Yes I hear voices in my head, but they speak spanish so I can't understand anything they say. there's no place like 127.0.0.1 It's a shame that stupidity isn't painful.... Current Tank Info: currently tankless....but planning an AIO Last edited by james3370; 08/25/2009 at 12:00 AM.

08/25/2009, 02:57 PM	#106
The0wn4g3 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Auburn, AL Posts: 1,124	Cuts look good. I'd try that reducer and just see what happens. Ya never know! __________________ The 0ne. The 0nly. The0wn4g3. Current Tank Info: 40 gallon Rimless- 39Wx4 T5HO on Ice-Cap 660, 29gallon sump, DAS EX-2, Deltec Phosphate Reactor, Koralia 3, 50lbs LR

12/14/2009, 05:19 PM	#109
customcolor Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: kaukauna, wi. Posts: 3,879	bump for a good mod......i used it in my 150xt and it works great __________________ PLEASE DONT USE GREAT STUFF (THE YELLOW STUFF) IN YOUR TANK........USE POND FOAM (THE BLACK STUFF).. I BEG YOU! Great stuff====$5 a can 24-48 hour cure Epoxy to cover it====little as $5 for small projects or up to $100+ for larger projects and another 24-48 hour cure I hope you covered it well cuz if you didnt it will start to break down in a few months sand is another added cost to cover up the yellow. Pond foams====$9-$15 a can 24-48 hour cure DONE! You can cover it with sand if you want to (YOU DONT HAVE TO) though but thats added cost again Current Tank Info: 75 gal under way

05/05/2010, 06:06 PM	#110
erics3000 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Palm Bay FL Posts: 2,957	COol idea __________________ Eric (Red House for my 300 display 600 system) Current Tank Info: 600 gallon system with 300 display

04/06/2013, 05:21 PM	#111
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	I just read this cool idea and thought it was worth a bump... __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.

08/24/2009, 10:30 PM	#101
ddinox64 Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ca. Posts: 1,327	Hey tankslave, AKA Lars. I have these on my tank. I could have shown you how I made them. I made the ring on the end of mine a little narrower and snapped a 1/2 LL inside it. But I may try to mod the other set I have simulate a nozzle more like TheOwns.

08/24/2009, 11:23 PM	#102
Snakebyt Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lubbock Tx Posts: 2,141	does this look like i cut enough, or you think i should cut more toward the top? im thinking of trying it on this adapter, but i only have 1 of them

08/25/2009, 01:15 AM	#105
Snakebyt Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lubbock Tx Posts: 2,141	thanks for the input, time to make another one to match

08/25/2009, 03:35 PM	#107
ibnozn Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 162	These look sweet. I know what I'm doing when I get home from work. I have the store bought ones but they're kind of huge. A couple of thoughts: 1. Would it be any cleaner to do the notches by drilling two holes, off center, all the way through the locline - then notching out each side with a hacksaw? 2. To constrict the flow for a better venturi on other DIY eductors I have used sawed off pvc barb fittings. Nylon also works too. Some sanding and pounding is required for a proper fit. Might be good try on these.

08/25/2009, 05:43 PM	#108
ddinox64 Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ca. Posts: 1,327	Snake. Make the openings bigger to draw more water in. On the adapter. It would work excellent if you were using 1/2" returns. Because the 3/4" bell is much larger giving you space to cut out and the 1/2" for the pressure. The stock peductors are sort of big and intrusive. That's what's nice about this. No bigger than the link itself.

05/27/2013, 02:01 PM	#112
IANick Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 55	It "IS" a cool idea, and worth another bump. I'm wondering if those who have been using these for a few years remain convinced about the effectiveness of this mod? In other words, are these REALLY drawing water in and therefore increasing flow? Or is it simply increased velocity of existing flow? Anyone had a chance to properly evaluate the flow increase? But assuming all remain convinced about the flow increase, these look to be solving two concerns for me: 1) lower profile outlet nozzle so that I can more easily hide the loclines in the rockwork of my upcoming build; and 2) reduced need for a pressure rated pump Great stuff!