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Old 07/10/2018, 09:32 AM   #1
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Dosed to much ph buffer

Hi everyone I'm new to the forum so bear with me. Iirc have a 40 gallon breeder and I found out today I been putting to much ph buffer stupid me in my tank for a while now like months. I haven't gotten any corals yet because my alk was to high. It took 20 drops with the api test kit to change water color. I still have my two clowns,a dotty back and a fire fish they are the only fish I ever had and not showing signs of stress . Does this mean I have to start over or can I do water changes to help fix the problem


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Old 07/10/2018, 09:43 AM   #2
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I would do 20% water changes daily to bring it down in the next few days, dnt do it all at once mate as they will have another chock


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Old 07/10/2018, 10:00 AM   #3
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You likely don't need to do anything.. except throw the PH buffer in the trash..
Its sold to those that don't know any better

In general as long as your PH is in the 7.8-8.5 range you are fine..
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php

And if its not in that range it typically indicates a problem that a buffer isn't the solution to either.. Co2 content in the house,etc... poor circulation,etc...


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Old 07/10/2018, 10:14 AM   #4
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Thanks I thought for sure I lost the tank


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Old 07/10/2018, 09:59 PM   #5
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I agree that you probably don't need to do anything. The pH buffers all increase alkalinity enormously, and often don't help the pH measurably. The problem is carbon dioxide, as has been stated. The pH buffers work by consuming carbon dioxide from the water column, but aeration will bring the pH back down over time, often very quickly.


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Old 07/11/2018, 03:34 AM   #6
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What should I do to bring up my ph then


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Old 07/11/2018, 04:47 AM   #7
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What should I do to bring up my ph then
What is your non-buffered pH level?
Or stated another way what is the pH the tank maintains without any buffer?

When dealing with parameters its very important to post actual numbers..

I will likely suggest you stop testing pH and just let it be and likely don't need to do anything about the pH..
I haven't bothered with pH in 15 years..

I have a coral tank so I just maintain proper salinity, alk, cal, mag, temperature, nitrates and phosphates...


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Old 07/11/2018, 06:38 AM   #8
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My ph hovers around 7.8 8.0 so I assume at night it drops below that. I've seen alot of people keep theresa between 8.0 and 8.4


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Old 07/11/2018, 06:49 AM   #9
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I have a ph between 7.8-8.0 for 25 years.
Just forget PH.

But if you want, you can open a window, make sure you have surface water agitation, I run my skimmers air hose to the outside....all of this you may get .1 increase if your lucky.

8.4 is mostly unrealistic unless you want to spend tons of money. Some believe corals grow faster st 8.3......I don't know....maybe....maybe not.

Back to forget the PH. Yours numbers seem quite normal to most reef keepers.



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Old 07/11/2018, 07:47 AM   #10
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My ph hovers around 7.8 8.0 so I assume at night it drops below that. I've seen alot of people keep theresa between 8.0 and 8.4
7.8-8.0 is totally fine..
Ignore/forget and move forward.. More important stuff to spend time on


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Old 07/11/2018, 11:14 PM   #11
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Lots of Tanks of the Month have run at 7.8. I'd just ignore the pH, personally. If you want to raise it, you could consider Kalkwasser, a carbon dioxide scrubber, or an air exchanger. Kalk is fairly inexpensive to try, and is a good calcium-alkalinity supplement. It helps some tanks, but definitely not all.


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Old 07/12/2018, 04:43 AM   #12
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But you don't need to use kalk at all as you have no corals and do not need a cal/alk supplement at this time..
At this point the only thing you should be doing is water changes of what equates to like 20% every 2 weeks if that..Thats just commonly recommended normal maintenance..
No additives are needed at all and any store that tells you to buy bottle X is simply trying to take your money..


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I track pH only to ensure that neither my kalk stirrer nor my Ca reactor are on the fritz. "pH buffers" should not exist/worthless. As above: do nothing [except maybe have a beer and continue routine weekly water changes and keep reading].


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