Let Them Flash! - Page 5

keefsama2003 · 05/08/2006, 08:03 AM

Can i have the name of the anglefish book? and i cant wait for the wrasse book to be released.

H.Tanaka · 05/08/2006, 08:29 AM

keefsama,

Thanks for your inquiry, and it is entitled
Angelfishes; a comprehensive guide to Pomacanthidae.

Find the book cover and some info on the web shown below,

http://www.seachallengers.com/index....D=1&itemID=348

keefsama2003 · 05/08/2006, 08:52 AM

ordered the book formyself looks interesting.

c. dawg · 05/08/2006, 08:58 PM

Dr. Tanaka,

What fish have you kept or what do you suggest keeping with flasher wrasses?

H.Tanaka · 05/08/2006, 09:59 PM

It is somewhat difficult to reply, for I have not kept fairies and flashers together with all kinds of genera, but smaller, not-so-active, or non-territorial, non-aggressive species/ individuals will be OK. I think that Gobies, cardinalfishes, small damsels, butterflies, Centropyge-angels, and wrasses of other genera that can not grow too large. I almost always keep fairies & flashers only in a 90x45x45 cm tank to take photos, and later larger males will be released into a larger tank with many other species of fishes.

c. dawg · 05/08/2006, 10:23 PM

Do you think a C. rubriventralis will be to aggressive towards a trio of P. cyaneus?

H.Tanaka · 05/09/2006, 02:00 AM

Yes, C. rubriventralis can be aggressive toward other members of Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus. I experienced that one male C. rubriventralis chased a male Paracheilinus of some 8cm long and the latter died with stress next morning. But it is possible that yours would go well together, and there are three P. cyaneus so the rubriventralis would not chase any.

c. dawg · 05/09/2006, 08:12 PM

Thanks for your help!

c. dawg · 05/09/2006, 08:46 PM

One more question:

Is it normal for flashers, for the first few days in the tank, to have a place where it looks one wrasse hit him? It doesn't look bad, the scales are just a bit ruffled, and when I watch them, one wrasse does not aggressively attack another wrasse - one may occasionally chase another but they usually just swim together calmly. Should I try to seperate them, or do you think they will be fine.

H.Tanaka · 05/10/2006, 03:18 AM

Such a fighting among individual ofen happens especially when first introduced. If you see them fight so seriously and one is calm down at a corner of the tank motionlessly with rapid breathing you should separete the two, save the weaker one and release into another smaller tank in a dim light with many crevices.

Fishes with a less fin damage and no wound on body can be kept together continuously but observe them so carefully what will happen. Good luck.

c. dawg · 05/11/2006, 07:04 PM

They are getting along now ... they seem to be best buds

Thanks for your help!

H.Tanaka · 05/12/2006, 03:12 AM

It is an unusually shaped flasher wrasse, 65mm.

It looks like Paracheilinus lineopunctatus but has pointed fins, and also the upper and lower tips of caudal fin are sharp. This specimen is a hybrid of it and P. angulatus (no filaments), male probably from Indonesia.

The top shot depicts its usual coloration and bottom displaying one. One of the best examples of Paracheilinus hybrid I ever kept.

Ironsheikh · 05/12/2006, 07:41 AM

anybody ever breed flasher wrasses for finnage and coloration like they would for Halfmoon Bettas?

fishfanv · 05/13/2006, 08:50 PM

well, my flasher didn't make it. he disappeared a couple weeks ago. not sure what happened.

H.Tanaka · 05/19/2006, 07:36 PM

Here is an undescribed species from Coral Sea, Osprey Reef of the Great Barrier Reef of Australia. P. mccoskeri (bottom) for comparison is shown.

It was photographed by a Japanese diver there and he informed me that it formed a harem with a male and several females. The male was some 10 cm long, and is very similar to P. mccoskeri from the Indian Ocean. The coloration of the anal fin is quite outstanding and the filament on dorsal fin is robust. No specimen is available so no examination by ichthyologists. It is hard to say that it is a variant of mccoskeri for its remote locality, but it seems so close to that species.

blface · 05/19/2006, 08:00 PM

Dr. H. you always satisfy my craving for new flasher & fairy's. Keep up the awesome threads. I'm waiting to get my first flasher soon. It will be a blue flasher. I can't wait.

heuerfan · 05/19/2006, 08:31 PM

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Beautiful flasher, looks like half yellowfin and half mccosker

H.Tanaka · 05/19/2006, 09:35 PM

Thanks friends,

Blue Flasher is one of my favorites and they will flash especially the first three days, and after settling down it will not shown such a stunning display so often.

When the back becomes green or filaments turn whitish the male is ready to flash (but not always). The moment is very short, some 1-3 seconds for flashing but usually again and again. Observe it carefully for the purchase day especially around evening to night. Turn off the room light and on the tank one only.

blface · 05/20/2006, 08:51 AM

Here's pics of the one I'm getting from Marvin!! He just called me & the exchange is going to happen today!! Thanks again Marvin!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MarvinsReef
[B]I'll join the fun..

not so good at pics taking but you get the idea.. here's some pics of my blue flasher...

Ixthys · 05/20/2006, 12:06 PM

Hi. I have 2 questions if you wouldn't mind.

1. Which wrasses require a sand bottom for sleeping?

2. Do you quarantine your wrasses and if so, how?

Thanks!

c. dawg · 05/20/2006, 03:10 PM

Flashers don't need sand. They just make a mucus around them while they sleep.

H.Tanaka · 05/20/2006, 06:15 PM

It is a male P. rubricaudalis, 9cm from Vanuatu. It has a red tail without vertical blue stripe there. Fiji males have the stripe centrally on caudal fin. It commands a high price. Fiji specimens yet to be available.

Ixthys · 05/20/2006, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by c. dawg
Flashers don't need sand. They just make a mucus around them while they sleep.

Thanks for the reply.

So which wrasses do require sand?

Ixthys · 05/20/2006, 10:42 PM

What do you feed your flashers?

zemuron114 · 05/21/2006, 03:23 AM

fantastic thread H. Tanaka. I think i'll have to pick up some of those
Paracheiliunus rubricaudatus next time i order from australia. They seem rare

05/08/2006, 08:03 AM	#101
keefsama2003 Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: long island Ny Posts: 3,635	Can i have the name of the anglefish book? and i cant wait for the wrasse book to be released. __________________ { Something witty and entertaining } Current Tank Info: 300g / 90gal sump / 90 gal refugium / 3x54watt T5 bulbs

05/08/2006, 08:52 AM	#103
keefsama2003 Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: long island Ny Posts: 3,635	ordered the book formyself looks interesting. __________________ { Something witty and entertaining } Current Tank Info: 300g / 90gal sump / 90 gal refugium / 3x54watt T5 bulbs

05/12/2006, 07:41 AM	#113
Ironsheikh Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SYRACUSE NY Posts: 1,124	anybody ever breed flasher wrasses for finnage and coloration like they would for Halfmoon Bettas? __________________ You have been weighed... You have been measured... YOU have been found wanting! Current Tank Info: 20G fowlr some zoas

05/13/2006, 08:50 PM	#114
fishfanv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: sf bay area Posts: 768	well, my flasher didn't make it. he disappeared a couple weeks ago. not sure what happened. __________________ "yes we can" Current Tank Info: 40 & 30 gallon reefs

05/19/2006, 07:36 PM	#115
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Undescribed Here is an undescribed species from Coral Sea, Osprey Reef of the Great Barrier Reef of Australia. P. mccoskeri (bottom) for comparison is shown. It was photographed by a Japanese diver there and he informed me that it formed a harem with a male and several females. The male was some 10 cm long, and is very similar to P. mccoskeri from the Indian Ocean. The coloration of the anal fin is quite outstanding and the filament on dorsal fin is robust. No specimen is available so no examination by ichthyologists. It is hard to say that it is a variant of mccoskeri for its remote locality, but it seems so close to that species.

05/08/2006, 08:29 AM	#102
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	keefsama, Thanks for your inquiry, and it is entitled Angelfishes; a comprehensive guide to Pomacanthidae. Find the book cover and some info on the web shown below, http://www.seachallengers.com/index....D=1&itemID=348

05/08/2006, 08:58 PM	#104
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	Dr. Tanaka, What fish have you kept or what do you suggest keeping with flasher wrasses?

05/08/2006, 09:59 PM	#105
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	It is somewhat difficult to reply, for I have not kept fairies and flashers together with all kinds of genera, but smaller, not-so-active, or non-territorial, non-aggressive species/ individuals will be OK. I think that Gobies, cardinalfishes, small damsels, butterflies, Centropyge-angels, and wrasses of other genera that can not grow too large. I almost always keep fairies & flashers only in a 90x45x45 cm tank to take photos, and later larger males will be released into a larger tank with many other species of fishes.

05/08/2006, 10:23 PM	#106
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	Do you think a C. rubriventralis will be to aggressive towards a trio of P. cyaneus?

05/09/2006, 02:00 AM	#107
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Yes, C. rubriventralis can be aggressive toward other members of Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus. I experienced that one male C. rubriventralis chased a male Paracheilinus of some 8cm long and the latter died with stress next morning. But it is possible that yours would go well together, and there are three P. cyaneus so the rubriventralis would not chase any.

05/09/2006, 08:12 PM	#108
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	Thanks for your help!

05/09/2006, 08:46 PM	#109
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	One more question: Is it normal for flashers, for the first few days in the tank, to have a place where it looks one wrasse hit him? It doesn't look bad, the scales are just a bit ruffled, and when I watch them, one wrasse does not aggressively attack another wrasse - one may occasionally chase another but they usually just swim together calmly. Should I try to seperate them, or do you think they will be fine.

05/10/2006, 03:18 AM	#110
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Such a fighting among individual ofen happens especially when first introduced. If you see them fight so seriously and one is calm down at a corner of the tank motionlessly with rapid breathing you should separete the two, save the weaker one and release into another smaller tank in a dim light with many crevices. Fishes with a less fin damage and no wound on body can be kept together continuously but observe them so carefully what will happen. Good luck.

05/11/2006, 07:04 PM	#111
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	They are getting along now ... they seem to be best buds Thanks for your help!

05/12/2006, 03:12 AM	#112
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	It is an unusually shaped flasher wrasse, 65mm. It looks like Paracheilinus lineopunctatus but has pointed fins, and also the upper and lower tips of caudal fin are sharp. This specimen is a hybrid of it and P. angulatus (no filaments), male probably from Indonesia. The top shot depicts its usual coloration and bottom displaying one. One of the best examples of Paracheilinus hybrid I ever kept.

05/19/2006, 08:00 PM	#116
blface Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: meeechigan Posts: 958	Dr. H. you always satisfy my craving for new flasher & fairy's. Keep up the awesome threads. I'm waiting to get my first flasher soon. It will be a blue flasher. I can't wait.

05/19/2006, 09:35 PM	#118
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	Thanks friends, Blue Flasher is one of my favorites and they will flash especially the first three days, and after settling down it will not shown such a stunning display so often. When the back becomes green or filaments turn whitish the male is ready to flash (but not always). The moment is very short, some 1-3 seconds for flashing but usually again and again. Observe it carefully for the purchase day especially around evening to night. Turn off the room light and on the tank one only.

05/20/2006, 08:51 AM	#119
blface Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: meeechigan Posts: 958	Here's pics of the one I'm getting from Marvin!! He just called me & the exchange is going to happen today!! Thanks again Marvin!! [QUOTE]Originally posted by MarvinsReef [B]I'll join the fun.. not so good at pics taking but you get the idea.. here's some pics of my blue flasher...

05/20/2006, 12:06 PM	#120
Ixthys Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown, MD Posts: 562	Hi. I have 2 questions if you wouldn't mind. 1. Which wrasses require a sand bottom for sleeping? 2. Do you quarantine your wrasses and if so, how? Thanks!

05/20/2006, 03:10 PM	#121
c. dawg Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 485	Flashers don't need sand. They just make a mucus around them while they sleep.

05/20/2006, 06:15 PM	#122
H.Tanaka Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miyazaki City, Japan Posts: 613	It is a male P. rubricaudalis, 9cm from Vanuatu. It has a red tail without vertical blue stripe there. Fiji males have the stripe centrally on caudal fin. It commands a high price. Fiji specimens yet to be available.

05/20/2006, 10:42 PM	#124
Ixthys Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown, MD Posts: 562	What do you feed your flashers?

05/21/2006, 03:23 AM	#125
zemuron114 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pilgrim State (Mass) Posts: 4,039	fantastic thread H. Tanaka. I think i'll have to pick up some of those Paracheiliunus rubricaudatus next time i order from australia. They seem rare