Forum users: please vote regarding "stickies"

BrianD · 03/01/2010, 10:09 AM

Please vote.

Matt_Wandell · 03/01/2010, 10:11 AM

Hey Brian, just in case you don't see it...

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1805885

BrianD · 03/01/2010, 10:11 AM

I will leave the poll open for 7 days.

BrianD · 03/01/2010, 10:13 AM

Yes Matt, thanks, I saw that. I have heard from several people that the sheer volume of posts/views to the threads warrant their place as a "sticky". Others don't like the "clutter".

We will see what the majority opinion is, and I will discuss it with the other fish forum moderators.

Personally, I would like to see this forum merged with the FO and Aggressive forum (but that is for another day)

Matt_Wandell · 03/01/2010, 10:17 AM

The beauty of a single thread is that you have a one stop living reference, and you can keep adding to it, as well as add links to other places on the web. Take Randy's chemistry article thread for a perfect example...

http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...hreadid=102605

BrianD · 03/01/2010, 10:21 AM

Yes, but the difference is that most of the issues covered by Randy are Problem/Solution type threads with a definitive answer. The Fish Primer series is more of an ongoing log of successes and failures in keeping certain species of fish. There is no beginning or end, right or wrong answer.

Matt_Wandell · 03/01/2010, 10:26 AM

So do you think people are less likely to post to the primer threads if it's consolidated? Valid concern if so.

BrianD · 03/01/2010, 10:36 AM

I believe the participation will be exponentially lower.

LobsterOfJustice · 03/01/2010, 10:44 AM

If participation drops off they can always be put back, but I think its worth a try. Also, they can remain as threads (open to change and comment), and will be bumped with new posts just like any other thread (so they will remain visible if they have traffic), but we will just have a sticky with links to all of them for new people to find them.

Big E · 03/01/2010, 01:42 PM

I really don't care either way.........it's mildly annoying that they travel with every page instead of just staying on the first page. Fixing that would be a nice compromise.

Troy the Nomad · 03/01/2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E

I really don't care either way.........it's mildly annoying that they travel with every page instead of just staying on the first page. Fixing that would be a nice compromise.

username in use · 03/01/2010, 02:28 PM

+1000 for sticking to the first page only.

Creetin · 03/01/2010, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

Personally, I would like to see this forum merged with the FO and Aggressive forum (but that is for another day)

I agree also clownfish as well.

yukonblizzard · 03/01/2010, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E

I really don't care either way.........it's mildly annoying that they travel with every page instead of just staying on the first page. Fixing that would be a nice compromise.

Agreed 100%

SMOOTHIE · 03/01/2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by username in use

+1000 for sticking to the first page only.

+2

BrianD · 03/01/2010, 03:23 PM

I don't know that such a feature/option even exists.

NexDog · 03/02/2010, 08:14 AM

Fish Primer Sub-Forum is teh way to go.

TampaReefer79 · 03/02/2010, 09:14 AM

If I'm going to be honest, I wouldn't bother reading the sticky anyway. Not that I wouldn't WANT to...it's just that how can a normal person read all of one of those threads?

As an example, if I was thinking about getting a Regal Angel and went into the Reef Fishes section and tried to read the Regal Angel primer...

After page 10 I'd look like this:

How do you read 2500 posts on 110 pages?

There isn't enough time in a month. I'm sure there is some GREAT info in there, key word being 'some'. I'm also pretty positive that not every post of the 2,500 is informative.

Sort of reminds me of the 'Refugium - good, bad, ugly' thread. It's so hard to find any information that I want in a thread that's split 3 times. lol

That's my input, don't know what good it does.

Is there any way of taking a fish primer thread that has been stickied and condensing it down to what's pertinent? Water them down to just the nuts and bolts of the topic.

tcmfish · 03/02/2010, 11:31 AM

I also agree with what tampa said. The people who need the stickies for info are the people who haven't done the research on those fish already, what makes you think they are going to want to read a very long thread about them, with lots of bs mixed in.

I think they are great threads though.

I voted to leave it as is though, unless there are going to more primers, if we want to add more primers then I say it needs to be in a folder form. Also in the folder form maybe we could have threads for lots of other fish.

Also I think we should have some sort of sticky on QT. I don't think enough people use or use it properly.

Outerbank · 03/02/2010, 11:38 AM

If possible, keep on first page only.

I like the stickies and would only occasionally click on a consolidated thread.

The stickies receive many hits and "reef forum" viewers may drop if they are removed. You would also likely see similar new threads develop on the same subject. This would be good and bad, as it would consolidate what was said in the original primer.

With all this said, either option is really ok with me.

BrianD · 03/02/2010, 12:58 PM

You people are confusing me with all the comments. All of you make perfect sense, even when your opinions are 100% different

Someone find Solomon.

snorvich · 03/02/2010, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

I believe the participation will be exponentially lower.

I agree, hence my vote. But I see the point of view of consolidation similar to what has happened in the advanced topics forum.

silverfly · 03/02/2010, 01:31 PM

Keep the primers as they are. I found them invaluble.

melanotaenia · 03/02/2010, 01:38 PM

there are too many; at this rate we will have to go to page two of the forums just to start reading original new posts.

Consolidate. Please.

JGHA · 03/02/2010, 04:17 PM

First Page only gets my vote too.

View Poll Results: How should stickies be handled in this forum?
Leave as is.	58	35.58%
Consolidate into one stickied thread with links	85	52.15%
Create a subforum (no guarantee this can happen)	20	12.27%
Voters: 163. You may not vote on this poll

03/01/2010, 10:09 AM	#1
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	Forum users: please vote regarding "stickies" Please vote. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/01/2010, 10:11 AM	#3
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	I will leave the poll open for 7 days. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/01/2010, 10:13 AM	#4
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	Yes Matt, thanks, I saw that. I have heard from several people that the sheer volume of posts/views to the threads warrant their place as a "sticky". Others don't like the "clutter". We will see what the majority opinion is, and I will discuss it with the other fish forum moderators. Personally, I would like to see this forum merged with the FO and Aggressive forum (but that is for another day) __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/01/2010, 10:21 AM	#6
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	Yes, but the difference is that most of the issues covered by Randy are Problem/Solution type threads with a definitive answer. The Fish Primer series is more of an ongoing log of successes and failures in keeping certain species of fish. There is no beginning or end, right or wrong answer. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/01/2010, 10:11 AM	#2
Matt_Wandell Moved On Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SF CA Posts: 1,257	Hey Brian, just in case you don't see it... http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1805885

03/01/2010, 10:17 AM	#5
Matt_Wandell Moved On Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SF CA Posts: 1,257	The beauty of a single thread is that you have a one stop living reference, and you can keep adding to it, as well as add links to other places on the web. Take Randy's chemistry article thread for a perfect example... http://archive.reefcentral.com/forum...hreadid=102605

03/01/2010, 10:26 AM	#7
Matt_Wandell Moved On Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SF CA Posts: 1,257	So do you think people are less likely to post to the primer threads if it's consolidated? Valid concern if so.

03/01/2010, 10:36 AM	#8
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	I believe the participation will be exponentially lower. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/01/2010, 10:44 AM	#9
LobsterOfJustice Recovering Detritophobe Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 7,443	If participation drops off they can always be put back, but I think its worth a try. Also, they can remain as threads (open to change and comment), and will be bumped with new posts just like any other thread (so they will remain visible if they have traffic), but we will just have a sticky with links to all of them for new people to find them. __________________ If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I remember when zoanthids were called things like "green" and "orange" and not "reverse gorilla nipple." Current Tank Info: 180g reef with all the bells and whistles

03/01/2010, 01:42 PM	#10
Big E Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Euclid, OH Posts: 4,281	I really don't care either way.........it's mildly annoying that they travel with every page instead of just staying on the first page. Fixing that would be a nice compromise. __________________ 80g Rimless Acropora System reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2197142&page=31 Ed

03/01/2010, 02:28 PM	#12
username in use Sciencing Daily Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,560	+1000 for sticking to the first page only. __________________ Joshua "With fronds like these, who needs anemones?" - Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: multiple nano's sprinkled around the house

03/01/2010, 03:23 PM	#16
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	I don't know that such a feature/option even exists. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/02/2010, 08:14 AM	#17
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Fish Primer Sub-Forum is teh way to go. __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

03/02/2010, 09:14 AM	#18
TampaReefer79 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 3,448	If I'm going to be honest, I wouldn't bother reading the sticky anyway. Not that I wouldn't WANT to...it's just that how can a normal person read all of one of those threads? As an example, if I was thinking about getting a Regal Angel and went into the Reef Fishes section and tried to read the Regal Angel primer... After page 10 I'd look like this: How do you read 2500 posts on 110 pages? There isn't enough time in a month. I'm sure there is some GREAT info in there, key word being 'some'. I'm also pretty positive that not every post of the 2,500 is informative. Sort of reminds me of the 'Refugium - good, bad, ugly' thread. It's so hard to find any information that I want in a thread that's split 3 times. lol That's my input, don't know what good it does. Is there any way of taking a fish primer thread that has been stickied and condensing it down to what's pertinent? Water them down to just the nuts and bolts of the topic.

03/02/2010, 11:31 AM	#19
tcmfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,658	I also agree with what tampa said. The people who need the stickies for info are the people who haven't done the research on those fish already, what makes you think they are going to want to read a very long thread about them, with lots of bs mixed in. I think they are great threads though. I voted to leave it as is though, unless there are going to more primers, if we want to add more primers then I say it needs to be in a folder form. Also in the folder form maybe we could have threads for lots of other fish. Also I think we should have some sort of sticky on QT. I don't think enough people use or use it properly.

03/02/2010, 11:38 AM	#20
Outerbank Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Texas Posts: 1,220	If possible, keep on first page only. I like the stickies and would only occasionally click on a consolidated thread. The stickies receive many hits and "reef forum" viewers may drop if they are removed. You would also likely see similar new threads develop on the same subject. This would be good and bad, as it would consolidate what was said in the original primer. With all this said, either option is really ok with me. __________________ Scott Current Tank Info: 240 gallon. 26 yr old tank raised ocellaris pair, 24 yr old yellow tang, flame hawk, 9yr old regal angel, 12yr old H. Magnifica, RIP moorish idol (one died at 4 yrs, the second at 5 yrs).

03/02/2010, 12:58 PM	#21
BrianD Sir Brian The Lenient Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Mattoon, IL Posts: 32,111	You people are confusing me with all the comments. All of you make perfect sense, even when your opinions are 100% different Someone find Solomon. __________________ Always strive for the optimum environment, not the minimum environment. Current Tank Info: Empty

03/02/2010, 01:31 PM	#23
silverfly Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: england Posts: 579	Keep the primers as they are. I found them invaluble. __________________ Take care, Richie Current Tank Info: 180 gallon

03/02/2010, 01:38 PM	#24
melanotaenia Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 919	there are too many; at this rate we will have to go to page two of the forums just to start reading original new posts. Consolidate. Please.

03/02/2010, 04:17 PM	#25
JGHA Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Guadalajara Posts: 116	First Page only gets my vote too.