what is this?

thomashtom · 12/14/2018, 05:57 AM

These scribbled angels have through over 35 days of full QT protocol. 2 plus weeks of copper testing with Hanna then TTM to treat for flukes with General cure. All this time fish are acting totally normal, no scratching, eyes clear, eating everything,begging for food. It has been over a week with no meds in water and they are still acting normal. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks

Dmorty217 · 12/14/2018, 09:56 AM

Possible bacteria infection? Hard to tell from the pictures. Can you describe in detail what you see, also behavior hasn't changed?

HumbleFish · 12/14/2018, 10:48 AM

It's probably the "mystery disease" - which sometimes occurs after a fish has been exposed to copper.

Could be a negative skin reaction to copper or possibly a latent virus which copper (being an immunosuppressant) triggers. Some have reported success treating it with Kanaplex + Metroplex, which suggests it could be bacterial in nature, but could also just be a coincidence.

I personally would treat with Kanaplex + Metroplex for 2 weeks just to be on the safe side.

thomashtom · 12/14/2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HumbleFish

It's probably the "mystery disease" - which sometimes occurs after a fish has been exposed to copper.

Could be a negative skin reaction to copper or possibly a latent virus which copper (being an immunosuppressant) triggers. Some have reported success treating it with Kanaplex + Metroplex, which suggests it could be bacterial in nature, but could also just be a coincidence.

I personally would treat with Kanaplex + Metroplex for 2 weeks just to be on the safe side.

Ok that makes sense because you would they would be flashing and scratching constantly with the the way they look. Never did both Kanaplex and metroplex together would you do full dose of each? Really need to get these guys out of quarantine. Thanks for your help. Tom

thomashtom · 12/14/2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

Possible bacteria infection? Hard to tell from the pictures. Can you describe in detail what you see, also behavior hasn't changed?

it’s crazy but it looks like a combination of ich, velvet and flukes on different parts is body and fins. At the same time they are the healthiest acting fish as far as behavior and eating. How are things long time no talk!!. Thanks for your help Tom

HumbleFish · 12/14/2018, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thomashtom

Ok that makes sense because you would they would be flashing and scratching constantly with the the way they look. Never did both Kanaplex and metroplex together would you do full dose of each? Really need to get these guys out of quarantine. Thanks for your help. Tom

Yes, dose both together full strength every 48 hours. I would also do a 25% water change every 96 hours to remove any built-up residuals.

thomashtom · 12/14/2018, 10:16 PM

there is no expiration date on my Kanaplex or metroplex. Do they expire? Are they hard on the biological filtration? Thanks

HumbleFish · 12/14/2018, 10:43 PM

Assuming your QT biofilter is strong, they're not too harsh on nitrifying bacteria; but they do expire.

thomashtom · 12/15/2018, 02:30 AM

ok thanks

thomashtom · 12/15/2018, 04:42 AM

Hi Humblefish, since this is just about a guessing game how long do you think i should give the antibiotics to work. The directions say to dose every 48 hours. thanks for your help. Tom

HumbleFish · 12/15/2018, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thomashtom

Hi Humblefish, since this is just about a guessing game how long do you think i should give the antibiotics to work. The directions say to dose every 48 hours. thanks for your help. Tom

I'd treat for at least 2 weeks

thomashtom · 12/15/2018, 08:22 PM

Ok thanks

12/14/2018, 09:56 AM	#2
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	Possible bacteria infection? Hard to tell from the pictures. Can you describe in detail what you see, also behavior hasn't changed? __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

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thomashtom Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 70	meds there is no expiration date on my Kanaplex or metroplex. Do they expire? Are they hard on the biological filtration? Thanks

12/15/2018, 04:42 AM	#10
thomashtom Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 70	angels Hi Humblefish, since this is just about a guessing game how long do you think i should give the antibiotics to work. The directions say to dose every 48 hours. thanks for your help. Tom

12/14/2018, 10:48 AM	#3
HumbleFish Moved On Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,757	It's probably the "mystery disease" - which sometimes occurs after a fish has been exposed to copper. Could be a negative skin reaction to copper or possibly a latent virus which copper (being an immunosuppressant) triggers. Some have reported success treating it with Kanaplex + Metroplex, which suggests it could be bacterial in nature, but could also just be a coincidence. I personally would treat with Kanaplex + Metroplex for 2 weeks just to be on the safe side.

12/14/2018, 10:43 PM	#8
HumbleFish Moved On Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,757	Assuming your QT biofilter is strong, they're not too harsh on nitrifying bacteria; but they do expire.

12/15/2018, 02:30 AM	#9
thomashtom Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 70	ok thanks

12/15/2018, 08:22 PM	#12
thomashtom Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 70	Ok thanks