Doryrhamphus janssi (Cleaner Pipefish) - Page 3

ostrow · 04/07/2017, 04:40 PM

Mine are thriving. They are funny. They trade sides of the tank at night but hang out together before switching. Both eat mysis like crazy. I fear same gender but will never really know. They chase each other at times (well one circles the other). But the smaller one seems the tougher of the two.

By far, and it isn't close, my favorite fish I havr ever had and that says something.

Ulendon · 04/12/2017, 01:06 PM

Could you let me know which store was able to get these for you? I'm in the bay area also and I have been looking for a pair forever!

ostrow · 04/12/2017, 03:47 PM

I hope ThRoewer doesn't mind....he highly recommended Aquatic Collection in Hayward (I think). The guy was really nice but didn't get two for me in time.

ostrow · 04/12/2017, 03:57 PM

The pair I got was from a shop that ordered from SDC. Surprisingly. I hadn't had much luck with that source but these guys are gorgeous!

I did a fast drip to temp acclimate. Salinity and pH were already fine. 40 min and in the tank

ThRoewer · 04/13/2017, 08:27 PM

I think my pair spawned. Since the female is still a baby it's less than 10 eggs, and they seem to be much smaller than those of bluestripe pipefish.

Bratyboy2 · 04/14/2017, 06:10 AM

Awesome regardless. This should start putting them in a routine!

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reefwiser · 04/14/2017, 06:27 AM

That is great.

Bratyboy2 · 04/18/2017, 05:27 AM

Just got notification that liveaquaria has them in

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ThRoewer · 04/21/2017, 01:07 PM

I ordered 2 from LA and they just arrived. They are just the right size. Haven't checked the sex yet. Hopefully at least one of them is a female.

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ostrow · 04/21/2017, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThRoewer

I ordered 2 from LA and they just arrived. They are just the right size. Haven't checked the sex yet. Hopefully at least one of them is a female.

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Man wish you were in Chicago and could determine the genders of my two!

ThRoewer · 04/21/2017, 03:15 PM

Both I got are females - score!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ostrow

Man wish you were in Chicago and could determine the genders of my two!

Take close-up shots of their snout profile and their bellies and post the pictures here.

ostrow · 04/21/2017, 05:09 PM

I dont see how I will do better than the one on the previous page. Will try tho

ThRoewer · 04/21/2017, 05:55 PM

This picture is actually pretty good to tell you what to look for:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhygar666

I hope im allowed to upload a picture of a german internet site. not my picture but it got watermark. Helped me with the gender

heres a link to the internet site http://www.kimmich.ch/syngnathidae.htm

Only the males have spikes on the top of their snout. Females have a smooth snout.
On adults you should also be able to see the pouch on males (quite easy since they usually swim belly up). Females have a smooth belly and usually no blue stripe running down the center of the belly which markes the separation line of the pouch on males.

ostrow · 04/21/2017, 06:24 PM

Yeah yeah I know all that. I dont see any of that on either. So small so slim so fast!!!

ThRoewer · 04/22/2017, 02:32 PM

One of the new females is already eating frozen mysis. Unfortunately it is also chasing the other female so I will have to separate them later today.

The pair I have in the 20 gallon tank is definitely spawning now. Unfortunately the eggs are rather small, probably half the diameter of a bluestripe egg. This means smaller larva and more difficulty in raising them.

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ThRoewer · 04/23/2017, 10:26 AM

Well, I got lucky and found another male at the local store (AC, they still have a small female). So if none dies during quarantine I will have 3 pairs.

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ThRoewer · 04/27/2017, 01:29 PM

New male didn't make it. Also, upon closer examination at least one of the females has very fine teeth on the back of the snout. It's not as pronounced as on my males, but the back of the snout it also not smooth. But there is no pouch on its belly, so I'm still confident that it's a female.

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ostrow · 08/02/2017, 01:05 PM

My larger one has disappeared. The smaller was clearly dominant. Still can't figure out the gender. Want to try to pair it. Hate playing roulette but my eyes just can't make anything out. To me, snouts appeared smooth but both had the blue stripe...

ThRoewer · 08/04/2017, 08:30 PM

Sexing these reliably may be one issue, pairing them up is for sure another. I added a well quarantined female to the male in my 100 gallon tank and she was never seen again...

I also noticed that the specimen in the trade seem to be predominantly males.

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ostrow · 08/04/2017, 08:42 PM

Oh. Damn. Not good news there

ThRoewer · 09/16/2017, 02:30 PM

Well, the one pair I have is spawning again, but the female is still too small to produce a full clutch - at the moment she produces at the most 20 eggs. Once the clutch sizes get larger I might give it a shot to raise them. Though the eggs are small, about half the size of those of bluestripes.

ostrow · 09/16/2017, 03:10 PM

Dibs on some offspring!!!

ostrow · 01/06/2018, 02:00 PM

So have they continued to spawn?

04/07/2017, 04:40 PM	#51
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Mine are thriving. They are funny. They trade sides of the tank at night but hang out together before switching. Both eat mysis like crazy. I fear same gender but will never really know. They chase each other at times (well one circles the other). But the smaller one seems the tougher of the two. By far, and it isn't close, my favorite fish I havr ever had and that says something. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

04/12/2017, 03:47 PM	#53
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	I hope ThRoewer doesn't mind....he highly recommended Aquatic Collection in Hayward (I think). The guy was really nice but didn't get two for me in time. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

04/12/2017, 03:57 PM	#54
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	The pair I got was from a shop that ordered from SDC. Surprisingly. I hadn't had much luck with that source but these guys are gorgeous! I did a fast drip to temp acclimate. Salinity and pH were already fine. 40 min and in the tank __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

04/13/2017, 08:27 PM	#55
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	I think my pair spawned. Since the female is still a baby it's less than 10 eggs, and they seem to be much smaller than those of bluestripe pipefish. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/14/2017, 06:27 AM	#57
reefwiser Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Louisville,Kentucky Posts: 1,208	That is great. __________________ President Louisville Marine Aquarium Society. http://www.lmas.org/ The 3rd Annual Frag swap will be held September 23rd,2017 11 am till 3pm Saint Thomas Fellowship hall,9616 Westport Road,Louisvi

04/12/2017, 01:06 PM	#52
Ulendon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Could you let me know which store was able to get these for you? I'm in the bay area also and I have been looking for a pair forever!

04/14/2017, 06:10 AM	#56
Bratyboy2 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tallmadge Ohio Posts: 922	Awesome regardless. This should start putting them in a routine! Sent from my LG-H811 using Tapatalk

04/18/2017, 05:27 AM	#58
Bratyboy2 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tallmadge Ohio Posts: 922	Just got notification that liveaquaria has them in Sent from my LG-H811 using Tapatalk

04/21/2017, 01:07 PM	#59
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	I ordered 2 from LA and they just arrived. They are just the right size. Haven't checked the sex yet. Hopefully at least one of them is a female. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/21/2017, 05:09 PM	#62
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	I dont see how I will do better than the one on the previous page. Will try tho __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

04/21/2017, 06:24 PM	#64
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Yeah yeah I know all that. I dont see any of that on either. So small so slim so fast!!! __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

04/22/2017, 02:32 PM	#65
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	One of the new females is already eating frozen mysis. Unfortunately it is also chasing the other female so I will have to separate them later today. The pair I have in the 20 gallon tank is definitely spawning now. Unfortunately the eggs are rather small, probably half the diameter of a bluestripe egg. This means smaller larva and more difficulty in raising them. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/23/2017, 10:26 AM	#66
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Well, I got lucky and found another male at the local store (AC, they still have a small female). So if none dies during quarantine I will have 3 pairs. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/27/2017, 01:29 PM	#67
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	New male didn't make it. Also, upon closer examination at least one of the females has very fine teeth on the back of the snout. It's not as pronounced as on my males, but the back of the snout it also not smooth. But there is no pouch on its belly, so I'm still confident that it's a female. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

08/02/2017, 01:05 PM	#68
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	My larger one has disappeared. The smaller was clearly dominant. Still can't figure out the gender. Want to try to pair it. Hate playing roulette but my eyes just can't make anything out. To me, snouts appeared smooth but both had the blue stripe... __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

08/04/2017, 08:30 PM	#69
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Sexing these reliably may be one issue, pairing them up is for sure another. I added a well quarantined female to the male in my 100 gallon tank and she was never seen again... I also noticed that the specimen in the trade seem to be predominantly males. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

08/04/2017, 08:42 PM	#70
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Oh. Damn. Not good news there __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

09/16/2017, 02:30 PM	#71
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Well, the one pair I have is spawning again, but the female is still too small to produce a full clutch - at the moment she produces at the most 20 eggs. Once the clutch sizes get larger I might give it a shot to raise them. Though the eggs are small, about half the size of those of bluestripes. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

09/16/2017, 03:10 PM	#72
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Dibs on some offspring!!! __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

01/06/2018, 02:00 PM	#73
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	So have they continued to spawn? __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(