Save Bangai Cardinal eggs - Page 2

callsign4223 · 03/02/2021, 09:10 AM

New update:

The dad spit most of the eggs out after a few weeks in the breeder box. I think there are a couple fry that look formed enough to be viable. Basically look like babies with egg sacs still attached. I moved dad back to the main tank and he is eating again. Not sure why he spit them before they were ready. Being in the breeder box may be too stressful, I may have to setup an actual separate tank if I want him to hold them to maturity.

Vinny Kreyling · 03/02/2021, 10:25 AM

It's normal for fry to be born with the yolk sac so they can survive better.

callsign4223 · 03/02/2021, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Kreyling

It's normal for fry to be born with the yolk sac so they can survive better.

Ok, so I should expect them to be spit out as fry with yolk sac attached? Like I said, only a couple made it out in that state. The vast majority were spit out as eggs still.

sorinwilcox · 03/02/2021, 02:35 PM

How often are they breeding? Sorry just jumping in I got a few cardinals I want to breed but mine are young so I am learning from you

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callsign4223 · 03/03/2021, 11:25 AM

I've had this pair since early January. There was the batch the male had on the trip home. There was another batch where I didn't have breeder boxes yet so I didn't do anything and I assume he just dumped the babies in the main tank, and then this batch. So just about monthly.

sorinwilcox · 03/03/2021, 01:19 PM

That is super awesome! Good good spawn rate. How hard was the collection of the fry when he spits them out? Was it hard to catch him and to put him in the breeder box?

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callsign4223 · 03/03/2021, 03:37 PM

Catching him to put in the breeder box was pretty tough. I need a larger net honestly. I didn't want to stress him so it took a couple days.

As for the fry, they can't get out of the breeder box, but at this point I'm not sure how many are going to be viable.

callsign4223 · 03/08/2021, 10:12 AM

So, it appears I was a bit premature in my assessment of how many fry made it. Over the weekend I was able to get a closer look and it appears there are 8 viable fry with yolk sac attached freely swimming in the breeding enclosure. Freely swimming is a bit of a stretch, with the yolk sac attached they swim for a second then fall back to the bottom of the enclosure and sit there, but they are moving which I take as a good sign. I have started feeding bbs to them as well as introducing the micro pellets as well. I'm hoping that by introducing both foods simultaneously it will be easier to wean this batch off the live food.

toby.toby · 03/08/2021, 02:56 PM

i’d get some pods on the go, easy to breed and you can filter out the adults, give the babies a fuller meal nutrition wise

callsign4223 · 03/08/2021, 03:27 PM

Where do you get those?

toby.toby · 03/09/2021, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by callsign4223

Where do you get those?

you should be able to buy them at your lfs, or you can stick some course sponge in your tank sump and wait for a while for them to colonise .

much better to buy tho as you know what strain you’re getting

03/02/2021, 10:25 AM	#27
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	It's normal for fry to be born with the yolk sac so they can survive better. __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

03/02/2021, 09:10 AM	#26
callsign4223 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 348	New update: The dad spit most of the eggs out after a few weeks in the breeder box. I think there are a couple fry that look formed enough to be viable. Basically look like babies with egg sacs still attached. I moved dad back to the main tank and he is eating again. Not sure why he spit them before they were ready. Being in the breeder box may be too stressful, I may have to setup an actual separate tank if I want him to hold them to maturity.

03/02/2021, 02:35 PM	#29
sorinwilcox Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 18	How often are they breeding? Sorry just jumping in I got a few cardinals I want to breed but mine are young so I am learning from you Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

03/03/2021, 11:25 AM	#30
callsign4223 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 348	I've had this pair since early January. There was the batch the male had on the trip home. There was another batch where I didn't have breeder boxes yet so I didn't do anything and I assume he just dumped the babies in the main tank, and then this batch. So just about monthly.

03/03/2021, 01:19 PM	#31
sorinwilcox Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 18	That is super awesome! Good good spawn rate. How hard was the collection of the fry when he spits them out? Was it hard to catch him and to put him in the breeder box? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

03/03/2021, 03:37 PM	#32
callsign4223 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 348	Catching him to put in the breeder box was pretty tough. I need a larger net honestly. I didn't want to stress him so it took a couple days. As for the fry, they can't get out of the breeder box, but at this point I'm not sure how many are going to be viable.

03/08/2021, 10:12 AM	#33
callsign4223 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 348	So, it appears I was a bit premature in my assessment of how many fry made it. Over the weekend I was able to get a closer look and it appears there are 8 viable fry with yolk sac attached freely swimming in the breeding enclosure. Freely swimming is a bit of a stretch, with the yolk sac attached they swim for a second then fall back to the bottom of the enclosure and sit there, but they are moving which I take as a good sign. I have started feeding bbs to them as well as introducing the micro pellets as well. I'm hoping that by introducing both foods simultaneously it will be easier to wean this batch off the live food.

03/08/2021, 02:56 PM	#34
toby.toby Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 18	i’d get some pods on the go, easy to breed and you can filter out the adults, give the babies a fuller meal nutrition wise

03/08/2021, 03:27 PM	#35
callsign4223 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 348	Where do you get those?