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Old 04/12/2019, 12:18 PM   #51
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maybe its not A. milii........

the shape of the bands is not the same.......
Exactly. I'll start a new ID thread for that clown and anemone


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Old 04/12/2019, 06:55 PM   #52
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Exactly. I'll start a new ID thread for that clown and anemone
Its a lone fish....or do you see a group.......

Juveniles Clarkīs have yellowish tail........while the adult pair have sexual dicromatism........females have a white tail.....and Males have the outer bords of the tail yellow.........




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Old 04/12/2019, 07:38 PM   #53
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Its a lone fish....or do you see a group.......

Juveniles Clarkīs have yellowish tail........while the adult pair have sexual dicromatism........females have a white tail.....and Males have the outer bords of the tail yellow.........
There were about 3 or 4 of them with similar bars; all large in separate tanks.
Their price was $25 vs $15 brown Clarkii if price is any indicator



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Old 04/12/2019, 07:41 PM   #54
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Back in January I saw this melanistic clownfish which I thought was Clarkii but it was around the same time everyone was getting large shipments of A. Sebae so I was not 100% positive about ID



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Old 04/13/2019, 03:41 AM   #55
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Back in January I saw this melanistic clownfish which I thought was Clarkii but it was around the same time everyone was getting large shipments of A. Sebae so I was not 100% positive about ID

yjis one is not A. sebae.......

Its A. clarkii.......

but the fishes with yellow tail are very intresting..........


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Old 04/14/2019, 01:14 PM   #56
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BTA is probably what I'm gonna go with. Though it's hard to find really large ones these days...
How are the large ones from LA?
I saw some larger rose anemones at AC but $$$ at $200 each. I got a nice one for under $60 at Aqua Life in Rocklin if you don't mind the drive. They had some nice green ones too for $30



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green are nice.......


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Old 04/14/2019, 06:34 PM   #58
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How are the large ones from LA?
I saw some larger rose anemones at AC but $$$ at $200 each. I got a nice one for under $60 at Aqua Life in Rocklin if you don't mind the drive. They had some nice green ones too for $30
Tiny!

This is what they shipped me as large:


And this is their size chart:
Small: 1-1/2" to 3"
Medium: 3" to 4"
Large: 4" to 6"
I would call those nothing but small...


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That’s terrible size representation


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Old 04/14/2019, 11:53 PM   #60
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Thatís terrible size representation
This is their size 9 days later when - according to their customer support agent - they should have regained their full size:



The PVC fitting is a 1.5" straight connector with an outside diameter of 2.25". I would say that's at the very most medium for the larger of the two...


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Old 04/15/2019, 12:32 AM   #61
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This is their size 9 days later when - according to their customer support agent - they should have regained their full size:
Iíve had the same experience with couple of gigs. Ordered medium but they sent tiny. Them telling people wait a few days does not always work in customers favor...like in my case when a gig got caught in powerhead around three days into Cipro treatment. I didnít have the chance to show them that it was tiny since it died.
Itís extremely unfair for them to send products not accurately described.


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Old 04/15/2019, 12:41 AM   #62
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Here are the gigs I mentioned in above post. Both of them were placed on tile that was split in half. The original tile size was 2"x6" that I broke in imperfect half.
The gig on top barely covered 1/3 if not 1/4 of one of the halves.



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Old 04/15/2019, 12:41 AM   #63
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Iíve had the same experience with couple of gigs. Ordered medium but they sent tiny. Them telling people wait a few days does not always work in customers favor...like in my case when a gig got caught in powerhead around three days into Cipro treatment. I didnít have the chance to show them that it was tiny since it died.
Itís extremely unfair for them to send products not accurately described.
I don't need to wait 2 weeks to tell if an anemone is large or tiny. Even shriveled up from shipping you can tell pretty good what size it is.
I've contacted them again today - let's see what they say now.


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They completely refunded me the money for the BTAs.

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Seems white or clear tails are not at all uncommon with A. bicinctus. And it seems they might be a sex indicator like with some of the species currently misidentified as A. clarkii.
These pictures were taken around 1971 at Eilat, Gulf of Aqaba, Israel (pictures: Hans W. Fricke, from his book Bericht aus dem Riff)




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my favorite clown by far...


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Old 04/16/2019, 08:57 AM   #67
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Awesome thread! Fast question, but I see on LiveAquaria that they list the care level for the Amphiprion bicinctus as difficult. Any thoughts on why this is the case, for those of you fortunate enough to keep/have kept them?


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Old 04/16/2019, 09:19 AM   #68
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Its all about Sea currents..........

The north part pf the red Sea is a bit colder.......and match in some aspects the coast of Oman.........and Yemen........

The South part of the Red Sea is warmer........near Djibouti.......

Along the Arabian coast and specially Aqba Gulf you will find many brown fishes........sometimes with transluscent tails....or whitish.......

In Djibouti region and Farasan Banks....you find bright yellow - orange fishes.......

Brown fishes from northern Red Sea maybe have some ancient DNA heritage from Omani fishes.......


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Genetic evidence actually points to a very close relationship between A. bicinctus and A. omanensis.

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Awesome thread! Fast question, but I see on LiveAquaria that they list the care level for the Amphiprion bicinctus as difficult. Any thoughts on why this is the case, for those of you fortunate enough to keep/have kept them?
Wild caught clownfish are generally trickier in the first few months because of all the diseases and parasites they may harbor. Once you have them over that hump they are generally very hardy.
Some species are more challenging than others, not necessarily because they are more difficult but because they spent a lot more time in shipping bags. Percula is particularly notorious for coming down with infections right after shipping.

The thing with LiveAquaria is that they almost exclusively sell only ORA tank bred anemonefish. Unfortunately those are in almost all cases extremely disfigured. I don't know what ORA is doing to their anemonefish, but in my experience, you must actually be proactive in your neglect to create such refuse with such consistency.

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One fish store had this nice looking clown labeled as juvenile Bicintus a few months ago. Not sure how accurate their ID was but it looked a lot better in person.



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One fish store had this nice looking clown labeled as juvenile Bicintus a few months ago. Not sure how accurate their ID was but it looked a lot better in person.
That's no bicinctus.
I would say that's a juvenile of the true melanopus, maybe frenatus or one of the other species that are currently lumped together under melanopus...


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looks A. melanopus............


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Old 05/05/2019, 05:33 AM   #74
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After 6 weeks in QT the bicinctus did fine and I moved them to a 40B for now.
When at the store on Saturday, they had a decent sized magnifica that was bleached but seemed otherwise healthy, so I decided to get it for the bicinctus since all the BTA I could get are way too small for them.

This was the anemone after I took it out of the bag to let it attach itself to a ceramic dish:



And this after I put it in the tank:



I hope it stays healthy and has some zooxanthellae left to color up again. I wonder what color it might be...



The smallest of the bicinctus was the first to get into the anemone, and when the light went out, he was joined by the male. The female preferred to hide in the rocks for the night.


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Other than being bleached, that mag looks pretty healthy. Some hints of green too so it may color up nicely for you. Bet the Bicinctus will love it!


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