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IMO wild caught is wrong. Just leave em be.
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04/25/2015, 03:49 PM | #27 |
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If that were the case you would not now nor ever have had the brood stock to start the tank raised fish to begin with.
SOOOOO, with your way of thinking none of us should have any fish so therefore this hobby wouldn't exist.
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Clowns are doing great. They ate very aggressively earlier. Both ate frozen and the smaller of the two is eating pellets. He's a quick learner. I did a 30% water change and re-dosed quick-ich X per manufacturer's directions.
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But I'm not trying to hijack the thread. The fish are no longer wild so good luck and continue the discussion!
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Video from today taken towards the end of their second feeding. So far they are eating brine shrimp very well.
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Add to that the designer clown castoffs that are often sold as "true percula", if not by the breeder then by uneducated or outright dishonest store personal. If you want to breed fish that can be used as a reservoir or next generation broodstook you need fish of high quality and that haven't been tinkered with. That pretty much only leaves wild caught of known origin. I also don't think there is too much wild harvesting going on anymore as most clowns sold today are designer clowns and locally bred ones by hobbyists. It is actually quite hard to find any wild clowns in stores (at least around here). And in the wild they are by no means better of - see here: http://www.cathychurch.com/index.php/kissing-crowls So I really don't get your point.
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Are you breeding them?
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looks great, congrats!
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These guys are looking really good; you need to breed these guys and give me some offspring |
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In the ideal world, yes I would like for them to become a mated pair and raise their babies. Not for commercial purposes (too little money) but just to improve the breed standard as many of the tank raised clowns nowadays are ugly and deformed. Sort of like high quality dog breeders dedicated to improving dog breeds as opposed to puppy mills. Most today's hatcheries (at least locally here) seem to operate like puppy mills.
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I love your pair, hope you can keep their black.
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The light had just turned on and I snapped a quick pic with my phone.
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Really nice!
How big are they?
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Absolutely beautiful pair.
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Also, next time you get a chance to visit Los Angeles check out some of our fish stores. When it comes down to clowns the ratio of captive bred to wild caught is 90% tank raised and 10% wild caught if not less. That's why I don't worry about it too much. |
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Not very good news. The smaller clown is starting to exhibit early signs of brooklynella. It has the "skin peeling off" thing near his tail. I might give him a quick-ich X bath for an hour with increased dose to see if it helps. I might also consider separating the two clowns to at least save the larger clown that appears to be healthy.
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