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Unread 11/25/2013, 10:43 PM   #1
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MP Flow vs WP flow

Has anyone done a flow compare to the MP series wave makers vs the WP's?

I know the MP has a wide flow " that i like " i was wondering if the WP did the same type of flow?


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Unread 11/25/2013, 10:49 PM   #2
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Very debated subject. In my opinion, no, theyre not really the same. I did not have the WP-40 so I cant say how it is. But I did have a couple wp-25s and while the flow, and control-ability of it was good, it was in no way the same as the MP. I had two wp-25s and now have 2 MP-40s. The WPs are a great buy and good pumps (also open to debate, just my experience).
The flow of the MP is much more broad, the wp's are more direct. All depends on what type of flow youre looking for and how much money you are willing to spend to get it.
The vortechs are louder, but I dont find them to be the grinders a lot of people make them out to be. I dont plan on switching back.

All in all, it depends on the tank. Many people have switched from the vortechs to tunze or tunze-style pumps and are very happy they did. I, however, do not plan on switching anytime soon.


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Unread 11/25/2013, 11:00 PM   #3
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The WP 40 seems to have a wider end on it.


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Unread 11/25/2013, 11:10 PM   #4
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It does, by quite a bit. So it should have a wider flow, bit it is also a lot more powerful. On a comparable setting to the wp-25 it would have a wider flow, but crank it up to a comparable level to the vortech and it will be more direct than the MP. At least thats how I think it would be, ill let someone that has experience with it chime in.
A side note, the vortech seems to pull a lot more from lower in the tank, such as across the sand. A properly placed WP may do the same, but I have my doubts.


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Unread 11/25/2013, 11:16 PM   #5
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Hmm yeah sounds about right... wonder what a WP 60 would do on the low setting.

The WP40 is what im looking at to try in my 220G


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Unread 11/25/2013, 11:25 PM   #6
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i have an mp10 and a wp-25. the mp10 flow is wider but the wp-25 is way more strong and its still fairly wide.


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Unread 11/25/2013, 11:29 PM   #7
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Hmm yeah sounds about right... wonder what a WP 60 would do on the low setting.

The WP40 is what im looking at to try in my 220G
Well, it would be even wider flow, haha. But youre also taking up a lot more tank real estate at that point. One of the great things about the vortech is their low profile in the tank. But, the jeabos are cheap enough that they are worth trying and see if it works for you and your tank. They hold their resale value pretty good so if it doesnt work out, you could turn around and get most of your money back.
It really comes down to what works for you. (btw, im a bit jealous of the 220, thats a nice size tank).


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Unread 11/25/2013, 11:35 PM   #8
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Well, it would be even wider flow, haha. But youre also taking up a lot more tank real estate at that point. One of the great things about the vortech is their low profile in the tank. But, the jeabos are cheap enough that they are worth trying and see if it works for you and your tank. They hold their resale value pretty good so if it doesnt work out, you could turn around and get most of your money back.
It really comes down to what works for you. (btw, im a bit jealous of the 220, thats a nice size tank).

Thx lol.

I have afew tanks but a 6foot by 2 foot wide tank was what i was really looking for.

I will wait for afew more comments and most likely get a WP40.


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Unread 11/26/2013, 12:40 AM   #9
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Bought an WP 40 88$ bs 450$...

If i like it ill buy another... But i do think a 220G is going to need the high flow setting lol.


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Unread 11/26/2013, 01:03 AM   #10
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The wp40 definitely does not have as wide of flow as the mp40. However, the cost of replacing a wet side is more than a wp40. Btw , I own 2 mp40s and one wp40.


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Unread 11/26/2013, 02:07 AM   #11
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I did my own test between the MP40 and Wp40, on my 175G which is 72"L. I found the MP40 a little wider in the beginning, but the flow is not as strong as a WP40, I can feel the WP40 throughout the length of the tank, MP40 not so much. I like my Wp40 so much, I sold the Vortechs and ordered 2 WP60, for my new 300G. So I just invested in 2 WP40's and 2 WP60's which totaled up around 1 MP40W es retail price. Price or flow was not the deciding factor selling the Vortechs, it was that the Vortechs were too loud, especially on ramp up. The Jebaos are much quieter.


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Unread 11/26/2013, 10:00 AM   #12
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Yeah i bought a WP40 for88$ shipped on Fleabay Do not know if ill need 2 in a 6 foot 220G or not but if i like it ill buy another.


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Unread 11/26/2013, 01:04 PM   #13
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I have 7 mp 40s and I got two wp 60's to try out in my 300. The flow on A mp is way way more spread out. The wp 60 is ok for the price but , they are louder than mp 40s when ramping up and down. wp's also have to be mounted way farther under the water so they don't suck in air. The mp has A solid piece on top of the pump so it doesn't suck in air so easy. I think for the price wp's are alright but, the test of time is the question. You also have that ugly cord you have to stare at In the water.


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Unread 11/29/2013, 04:38 PM   #14
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Got one of the wp40s seems like a great pump flow will reach from one side of the tank to the other.

and it is pulling the light stuff from the sand bed 2/3rds of the way up the tank.

Think im going to get another


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Unread 11/29/2013, 04:58 PM   #15
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Why not just compare the wp60 vs mp40 since it's still insanely affordable vs that overpriced vortec stuff lol


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Unread 11/29/2013, 06:30 PM   #16
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Yeah at those prices Vortec is gouging the market.

I do not support price gouging. But ppl buy them so there is no reason to bring them to a Sane price.


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Unread 11/29/2013, 06:38 PM   #17
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Yeah at those prices Vortec is gouging the market.

I do not support price gouging. But ppl buy them so there is no reason to bring them to a Sane price.
If vortech were the only pumps on the market you could consider it gouging but since there are many other choices it is not.


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Unread 11/29/2013, 07:42 PM   #18
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All the WP's have a more direct flow, they have a tunze style. They're also stronger than MP's. If I had a large tank I would definitely run WP40/60 and MP60.


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Unread 11/29/2013, 08:13 PM   #19
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I orderd 2 WP40s when they came out. I put 1 in my 75g and I gave them both away within the next week for some corals. Not because I didn't like them, but because the darn thing was WAY too powerful for my tank. I like open swim space so there was nothing keep them from tanking my corals. I just ordered a WP25. Can't wait!


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Unread 11/29/2013, 09:41 PM   #20
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Yeah i have a 6 foot 3 foot wide tank.

I can pos them across from eachother and get some real Reef action going .


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Unread 11/29/2013, 10:01 PM   #21
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Back to the original question and the first response. I have a wp40 and a wp25. The flow out of a wp25, even on high is no where near the flow of the wp40 on medium.

The plus side if the wp design is the directional abilities as too wide a path can be a problem with blasting corals that are just under the pump.

Like wise the stronger narrower path could be an issue depending on what you want. ..chose your poison

However using the wp25 as a comparison of the flow path of a wp40 would be a mistake.


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Unread 11/29/2013, 11:26 PM   #22
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my tank is 72x18x23 , just bought one wp40. very impressed. How many wp40 should i need in my tank ???


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Unread 11/29/2013, 11:33 PM   #23
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my tank is 72x18x23 , just bought one wp40. very impressed. How many wp40 should i need in my tank ???
Mine is 72x24x30 and i think 2 would do the trick facing eachother.


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