Bryopsis possible solution - Page 18

bobbravo2 · 06/02/2017, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue spot

Just put in another treatment at the higher dose. Having a small panic as I can't remember if I remove bio pellets , reading through thread I can't see this mentioned ? Anyone know ?

I ran them.

Blue spot · 06/04/2017, 04:34 PM

Cheers bob

Blue spot · 07/17/2017, 04:07 PM

Just to let you know so far second dose has worked !

bobbravo2 · 07/17/2017, 07:30 PM

So far so good here too, after dose 2. I did go for the bigger dose this time

FullBoreReefer · 07/18/2017, 07:57 PM

Dosed my tank once on 1/27/17...found my comments on earlier pages haha.

My tank is still looking great.

nezw0001 · 08/08/2017, 03:20 PM

I treated as directed when this first came out. all the bryopsis died out and was gone for 3 months or so. Then it came back and I retreated at a slightly higher dose and it disappeared quickly. Today I noticed it coming back. My last dose was several months ago. Kind of concerning.

FullBoreReefer · 08/08/2017, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nezw0001

I treated as directed when this first came out. all the bryopsis died out and was gone for 3 months or so. Then it came back and I retreated at a slightly higher dose and it disappeared quickly. Today I noticed it coming back. My last dose was several months ago. Kind of concerning.

Is it possible to keep a low maintenance dose going for multiple months? Maybe an extended period of time of low saturation will fully kill it off.

Maybe do a regular dose, let it sit like instructed.

Dose your new saltwater BEFORE your water change with a 75% strength dose. Do your water change, then let it sit.

Next water change rolls around, do the same thing but a 50% strength dose to the fresh saltwater BEFORE your water change. Do your water change, then let it sit.

Same thing as before, but this time 25% strength. Complete same process as before.

From there on out do normal water changes without any medication being dosed, let it slowly dilute itself from your system. Even at that rate it will be in your system for awhile.

In my honest opinion if I was in your shoes, I would try what I recommended above. I see no I'll effects happening other than losing any purposely kept refugia algae, ATS, etc.

It's your call, and maybe worth a shot...keep us posted no matter what outcome or solution you chose.

Slarti · 08/08/2017, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nezw0001

I treated as directed when this first came out. all the bryopsis died out and was gone for 3 months or so. Then it came back and I retreated at a slightly higher dose and it disappeared quickly. Today I noticed it coming back. My last dose was several months ago. Kind of concerning.

When you did the first two rounds, did you just do the single dose and waiting period or did you repeat a second time? My understanding is this stuff is like cockroaches and will probably withstand a nuclear attack. So if you did not I suggest do the dose again for the required time, do the water change and then repeat immediately even if no traces can be seen.

FullBoreReefer's plan may work as well but just as I vaguely remember someone doing an experiment with a lower dosage which (from the same vague memory) did kill it but it came back within a month or so.

Slarti · 08/08/2017, 11:25 PM

Sorry wanted to add unsure how a lower dose over a longer period will work but also worth a try.

djbon · 08/08/2017, 11:38 PM

Don't waste your time and money trying lower dosage. Go ahead with recommended dosage and count the days. If it is bryopsis, it should be gone in two to three weeks.

Scorpius · 08/19/2017, 06:58 PM

My bryopsis/turf algae took a bigger hit this time around with a double dose. 20-200mg pills into 70 gals of water. lol No issues with any coral or fish etc. Skimmer went nuts like usual.

ostrow · 09/08/2017, 12:41 PM

Normal dose is 1 capsule per 10 gal of water volume. Or 20mg per gallon.

Is high dose really 1 capsule per gallon?

Blue spot · 09/10/2017, 08:01 AM

Mine came back again . Though a longer period of time to return. I'm not messing about this time and have immediately treated to see if I can kill off the strangling bits.

Scorpius · 09/10/2017, 08:48 PM

I did a double dose 20-200mg in my 70 gal total system. I ran gfo heavily this time around and knocked this stuff down even further. Hoping to kill it off with near 0 phosphates now.

ostrow · 09/11/2017, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

I did a double dose 20-200mg in my 70 gal total system. I ran gfo heavily this time around and knocked this stuff down even further. Hoping to kill it off with near 0 phosphates now.

That's more like a triple dose no?

You ran gfo while the fluconazole was in or after?

GQuinn · 09/11/2017, 04:33 PM

I have the pills in my hands, but I need to verify the dosage. I have read one pill (200 mg) per 10 gallons. I have also heard one pill per 5 gallons. What is the correct dose? Is anybody running Seachem Phosguard during treatment?

Scorpius · 09/13/2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ostrow

That's more like a triple dose no?

You ran gfo while the fluconazole was in or after?

During this time. Still hanging around, but I got some nuclear bomb tough variety of Bryopsis/turf.

ostrow · 09/14/2017, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpius

During this time. Still hanging around, but I got some nuclear bomb tough variety of Bryopsis/turf.

Email me a pic? Or.... Is it this:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ighlight=algae

That's cladophoropsis.

AbsoluteCorals · 09/19/2017, 11:57 AM

Where did you purchase tablets? And is there a specific brand or type.

Scorpius · 09/19/2017, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ostrow

Email me a pic? Or.... Is it this:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ighlight=algae

That's cladophoropsis.

I can't tell from the photographs on that thread.

What I can tell you is that my algae starts from one holdfast on the rock work with Herculean strength. Its very difficult to remove. The growth pattern then slowly branches out in a vase shape. It never really gets any longer than an inch in my tank.

The algae is very thick almost like bristles on a hair brush.

Fluconazole does kill it, albeit at very high amounts.

ostrow · 09/19/2017, 08:52 PM

Email me a pic. Seems the same. Joel at Ostrows dot us.

Fluc seemed to get it the first time. But took 5 weeks. Tried the heavier dose and gfo now...

ostrow · 11/02/2017, 05:34 AM

The "let it sit" at the high dose worries me. My system is well oxygenated. But waste from unbeaten food, fish waste. Worried about ammonia etc. That water change with medicated water sounds interesting...

Three to four weeks of zero waste removal is worrying me at this high dose.

ostrow · 12/06/2017, 09:34 AM

See here:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...1#post25295031

I am now doing water changes with the make-up dosed with double-dose fluconazole. AND I am dosing Vibrant. Results are truly encouraging after two weeks.

Blue spot · 01/09/2018, 04:42 PM

Just to note mine finally worked , but I left it for 4 weeks before turning my skimmer back on .

ostrow · 01/09/2018, 04:45 PM

I find the combo really worked well on the nasty algae I had. Vibrant is the way to go for various GHA and turf, or as I did, combo with fluconazole and vibrant

07/17/2017, 07:30 PM	#429
bobbravo2 Reef Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 967	So far so good here too, after dose 2. I did go for the bigger dose this time __________________ Bob G. - O.R.C.A Member Current Tank Info: 65 Gallon \| Radion Pro G3 \| MP40 \| MP10 \| Apex \| Jaebo DC9000 \| KNOP Calcium Reactor \| Mated Picasso Clowns \| Mix of LPS, SPS and Softies

07/18/2017, 07:57 PM	#430
FullBoreReefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 1,862	Dosed my tank once on 1/27/17...found my comments on earlier pages haha. My tank is still looking great. __________________ 60x36x24 mixed reef. 40b sump. Regal 250int Varios. 4xHydra26HDs+t5s. 4xMp40wes. Apex2016.

08/08/2017, 03:20 PM	#431
nezw0001 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Central MN Posts: 241	I treated as directed when this first came out. all the bryopsis died out and was gone for 3 months or so. Then it came back and I retreated at a slightly higher dose and it disappeared quickly. Today I noticed it coming back. My last dose was several months ago. Kind of concerning. __________________ Jill Current Tank Info: 450g see thru tank, MH lighting, 180 basement sump, Apex controller, Lifereef skimmer, 30g QT tank

08/08/2017, 11:38 PM	#435
djbon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, MY Posts: 813	Don't waste your time and money trying lower dosage. Go ahead with recommended dosage and count the days. If it is bryopsis, it should be gone in two to three weeks. __________________ 75 gallon DT, 5 gallon sump, DIY LED bar with moonlight, DIY Arduino controller Current Tank Info: 75 gallon/Arduino Controller

08/19/2017, 06:58 PM	#436
Scorpius Stick Head Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,208	My bryopsis/turf algae took a bigger hit this time around with a double dose. 20-200mg pills into 70 gals of water. lol No issues with any coral or fish etc. Skimmer went nuts like usual. __________________ Current Tank 65gal DSA rimless. Vortech MP-10 x4 Vectra M1. Kessil A360we x3 4-24in T5's. BRS 2 part LPS/SPS mixed reef. Will do ______ for Acropora.

06/04/2017, 04:34 PM	#427
Blue spot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 590	Cheers bob

07/17/2017, 04:07 PM	#428
Blue spot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 590	Just to let you know so far second dose has worked !

08/08/2017, 11:25 PM	#434
Slarti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 53	Sorry wanted to add unsure how a lower dose over a longer period will work but also worth a try.

09/08/2017, 12:41 PM	#437
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	"High Dose"? Normal dose is 1 capsule per 10 gal of water volume. Or 20mg per gallon. Is high dose really 1 capsule per gallon? __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :( Last edited by ostrow; 09/08/2017 at 12:57 PM.

09/10/2017, 08:01 AM	#438
Blue spot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 590	Mine came back again . Though a longer period of time to return. I'm not messing about this time and have immediately treated to see if I can kill off the strangling bits.

09/10/2017, 08:48 PM	#439
Scorpius Stick Head Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 1,208	I did a double dose 20-200mg in my 70 gal total system. I ran gfo heavily this time around and knocked this stuff down even further. Hoping to kill it off with near 0 phosphates now. __________________ Current Tank 65gal DSA rimless. Vortech MP-10 x4 Vectra M1. Kessil A360we x3 4-24in T5's. BRS 2 part LPS/SPS mixed reef. Will do ______ for Acropora.

09/11/2017, 04:33 PM	#441
GQuinn Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 982	I have the pills in my hands, but I need to verify the dosage. I have read one pill (200 mg) per 10 gallons. I have also heard one pill per 5 gallons. What is the correct dose? Is anybody running Seachem Phosguard during treatment?

09/19/2017, 11:57 AM	#444
AbsoluteCorals Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Pine Bush NY Posts: 1	Where did you purchase tablets? And is there a specific brand or type.

09/19/2017, 08:52 PM	#446
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Email me a pic. Seems the same. Joel at Ostrows dot us. Fluc seemed to get it the first time. But took 5 weeks. Tried the heavier dose and gfo now... __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :( Last edited by ostrow; 09/19/2017 at 09:00 PM.

11/02/2017, 05:34 AM	#447
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	The "let it sit" at the high dose worries me. My system is well oxygenated. But waste from unbeaten food, fish waste. Worried about ammonia etc. That water change with medicated water sounds interesting... Three to four weeks of zero waste removal is worrying me at this high dose. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

12/06/2017, 09:34 AM	#448
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	See here: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...1#post25295031 I am now doing water changes with the make-up dosed with double-dose fluconazole. AND I am dosing Vibrant. Results are truly encouraging after two weeks. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

01/09/2018, 04:42 PM	#449
Blue spot Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: England Posts: 590	Just to note mine finally worked , but I left it for 4 weeks before turning my skimmer back on .

01/09/2018, 04:45 PM	#450
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	I find the combo really worked well on the nasty algae I had. Vibrant is the way to go for various GHA and turf, or as I did, combo with fluconazole and vibrant __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(