Few shots of my fishes - Page 3

R_Hudson · 09/18/2016, 07:15 PM

Great pictures and beautiful fish Ken.

Willyboz1 · 09/18/2016, 07:27 PM

Nice! Someday...

pinnatus · 09/19/2016, 06:40 AM

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Great pictures and beautiful fish Ken.

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Originally Posted by Willyboz1

Nice! Someday...

Thanks!

humaguy · 09/19/2016, 08:48 AM

the emps look great!

pinnatus · 09/19/2016, 11:26 AM

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the emps look great!

Thanks!

Actually, the emps' dorsal fins are not quite right. Almost like some of the rays are too short in some cases. You can see the second ray on the larger emp is almost not there, and on the smaller emp many are different lengths. Also, the nose holes look weird as well. Not sure it this is from hole in head disease, or a reaction to copper, vitamin deficiency or what causes it. None of my other fish have this problem, but both emps do. It seems to get worse with time.

pinnatus · 09/19/2016, 02:46 PM

So after reading more about HLLE, it fits what the emps have. Of course, the cause is apparently debatable, everything from copper, poor water quality, carbon, high nitrates, poor diet, lack of vitamins, stray current. So I guess I need to get them some vitamins, and improve my water quality.

humaguy · 09/19/2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pinnatus

Thanks!

Actually, the emps' dorsal fins are not quite right. Almost like some of the rays are too short in some cases. You can see the second ray on the larger emp is almost not there, and on the smaller emp many are different lengths. Also, the nose holes look weird as well. Not sure it this is from hole in head disease, or a reaction to copper, vitamin deficiency or what causes it. None of my other fish have this problem, but both emps do. It seems to get worse with time.

Yeah, saw that, don't like to be critical of other's fish...you using activated carbon?

pinnatus · 09/19/2016, 03:52 PM

Sometimes, but not religiously.

I could chalk it up to any of the above causes. I do use carbon from time to time, my water quality is not great, I feed mostly pellets, I use copper from time to time. So, I guess I will do some water changes, get some fresh carbon in there to get the copper out, and see if I can add some vitamins to their diet and more frozen food.

locito277 · 10/02/2016, 10:10 PM

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Sometimes, but not religiously.

I could chalk it up to any of the above causes. I do use carbon from time to time, my water quality is not great, I feed mostly pellets, I use copper from time to time. So, I guess I will do some water changes, get some fresh carbon in there to get the copper out, and see if I can add some vitamins to their diet and more frozen food.

Do you use miracle mud? I've read that it reverses HLLE. I know my fish looked great for years when I had my old aquarium.

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pinnatus · 10/03/2016, 06:54 AM

I have not used miracle mud.

My fish look great except for the Emps. They must be more susceptible to HLLE.

I am now soaking their food in Selcon to see if that helps.

pinnatus · 03/25/2017, 06:40 PM

Took my pair of Emperors to the store today. They were getting too big and aggressive. My Moorish Idol has been suffering and I think it is due to the Emps. Sad day, I liked them very much.

johnike · 03/26/2017, 06:18 AM

Tough call Ken, beautiful fishes.

ThRoewer · 03/26/2017, 01:40 PM

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Thanks. They have been transformed for about 3-ish years now. I guess I have had them maybe 4 years.

Notice that one has a streamer on its dorsal fin while the other does not. I believe that means they originated from different parts of the world.

They both look like they come from the same region (I think Pacific). To my knowledge only the males develop streamers.

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humaguy · 03/26/2017, 01:44 PM

whoa, they got big, sorry to see them go.

Pacific Ocean has a filament on the dorsal and has a yellow tail

Red Sea and Indian Ocean does not have a filament and has an orange tail

ThRoewer · 03/26/2017, 02:00 PM

Yes, Emperors have a blue/yellow Pacific form (subspecies) and an orange/blue Indian Ocean form, just like Regal Angels.

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pinnatus · 03/26/2017, 04:37 PM

Not quite sure where they came from, but clearly two different places. The female had the streamer. I already miss them, but the Idol is looking better already so I know I made the right decision. I had them about 4 1/2 years.

rum3002576 · 03/27/2017, 06:51 AM

those Emperos are my favorite

pinnatus · 04/23/2017, 05:25 PM

Well, I lost my Moorish Idol this week. He was 8 years old.

dweber618 · 04/23/2017, 05:46 PM

Wow - sorry to hear that Ken

Rybren · 04/23/2017, 06:18 PM

Sorry to hear this Ken

johnike · 04/24/2017, 04:15 AM

Dang Ken.
Nice run man.

pinnatus · 05/17/2017, 06:28 AM

Fishes I received in exchange for my two emperors:

scuzy · 05/17/2017, 08:43 AM

Just out of curiosity can an emperor that has hlle hole in the nose area recover? My emp has hlle wanted to see what I can do to help it recover.

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pinnatus · 05/17/2017, 08:58 AM

I am not sure. I have heard accounts of them improving and others of them not. Mine never improved, but did stop getting worse.

scuzy · 05/17/2017, 10:08 AM

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I am not sure. I have heard accounts of them improving and others of them not. Mine never improved, but did stop getting worse.

Oh soi your have that issue too? Mines mainly on the nose area.

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09/18/2016, 07:15 PM	#51
R_Hudson Just having fun Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tulsa, Ok. Posts: 990	Great pictures and beautiful fish Ken. __________________ I don't pay to have my dirty work done for me. I do it myself. Ted Nugent

09/19/2016, 02:46 PM	#56
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	So after reading more about HLLE, it fits what the emps have. Of course, the cause is apparently debatable, everything from copper, poor water quality, carbon, high nitrates, poor diet, lack of vitamins, stray current. So I guess I need to get them some vitamins, and improve my water quality. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

09/19/2016, 03:52 PM	#58
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	Sometimes, but not religiously. I could chalk it up to any of the above causes. I do use carbon from time to time, my water quality is not great, I feed mostly pellets, I use copper from time to time. So, I guess I will do some water changes, get some fresh carbon in there to get the copper out, and see if I can add some vitamins to their diet and more frozen food. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns Last edited by pinnatus; 09/19/2016 at 03:59 PM.

10/03/2016, 06:54 AM	#60
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	I have not used miracle mud. My fish look great except for the Emps. They must be more susceptible to HLLE. I am now soaking their food in Selcon to see if that helps. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

03/25/2017, 06:40 PM	#61
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	Took my pair of Emperors to the store today. They were getting too big and aggressive. My Moorish Idol has been suffering and I think it is due to the Emps. Sad day, I liked them very much. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

09/18/2016, 07:27 PM	#52
Willyboz1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: So Cal Posts: 62	Nice! Someday...

09/19/2016, 08:48 AM	#54
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 8,218	the emps look great!

03/26/2017, 06:18 AM	#62
johnike Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bureau County Illinois Posts: 5,406	Tough call Ken, beautiful fishes.

03/26/2017, 01:44 PM	#64
humaguy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Western Ct, NYC Posts: 8,218	whoa, they got big, sorry to see them go. Pacific Ocean has a filament on the dorsal and has a yellow tail Red Sea and Indian Ocean does not have a filament and has an orange tail

03/26/2017, 02:00 PM	#65
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Yes, Emperors have a blue/yellow Pacific form (subspecies) and an orange/blue Indian Ocean form, just like Regal Angels. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

03/26/2017, 04:37 PM	#66
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	Not quite sure where they came from, but clearly two different places. The female had the streamer. I already miss them, but the Idol is looking better already so I know I made the right decision. I had them about 4 1/2 years. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

03/27/2017, 06:51 AM	#67
rum3002576 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 61	those Emperos are my favorite

04/23/2017, 05:25 PM	#68
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	Well, I lost my Moorish Idol this week. He was 8 years old. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

04/23/2017, 05:46 PM	#69
dweber618 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: MT Posts: 334	Wow - sorry to hear that Ken

04/23/2017, 06:18 PM	#70
Rybren Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,642	Sorry to hear this Ken __________________ 120G Mixed Reef, 28G AIO zoa/pipefish tank

04/24/2017, 04:15 AM	#71
johnike Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bureau County Illinois Posts: 5,406	Dang Ken. Nice run man.

05/17/2017, 06:28 AM	#72
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	Fishes I received in exchange for my two emperors: __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns

05/17/2017, 08:43 AM	#73
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Just out of curiosity can an emperor that has hlle hole in the nose area recover? My emp has hlle wanted to see what I can do to help it recover. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

05/17/2017, 08:58 AM	#74
pinnatus RIP Ludinano Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,572	I am not sure. I have heard accounts of them improving and others of them not. Mine never improved, but did stop getting worse. __________________ - Ken Current Tank Info: 240 gal Fish-Only, 13-gal w/ clowns