Building a Sump.

FishHarder · 03/24/2018, 05:51 AM

Hey everyone. I have a 110 gallon tank. Eshopp PF1000 hang in overflow and in my basement I have a 20 gallon sump from oecianic reef. Hate the sump. And have to. Use a CPR hang on refugium. For a refugium. Which I only just filled with miracle mud. 2 dayz ago. Found. I have 7 small fish in the tank.

Anywho!! I got a 40 gallon breeder for $40 at Petsmart. Was going to build a sump with a nice refugium from layout I got on the interweb. I want to make a change though and make the the refuge panels dark to help fight algae growth in other chambers.

So the question is..... Do I buy black acrylic panels on Amazon $35 a 24x24 shwet? Or do you have an idea on. Tinting glass walls.?

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billdogg · 03/24/2018, 07:00 AM

Glass panels are the best choice for a glass sump. You can get tinted glass at any local glass shop. They will cut the pieces to whatever size you like and sand the edges at little to no extra cost.

James77 · 03/24/2018, 03:18 PM

What I have done in the past on my overflow glass was smear a very thin layer of black silicone over the glass. Assuming that you don't want to do it on the inner baffles its very easy and quite cheap.

ramseynb · 03/24/2018, 03:30 PM

You can also look into reef safe spray paint. It's been a while, but one of the big spray paint brands made one that was reef safe. It was basically like plastic spray. I knew of a reefer that used it to spray his return pipes and durso pipes (so they were submerged) all black in his overflow and never had any issues.

on the spot · 03/24/2018, 05:35 PM

A 40 will be quite a bit shallower than that 50 - Since you have the basement I'd use a 10 gallon or so separate container for the refugium.

or a 20. these are usually readily available and inexpensive.

on the spot · 03/24/2018, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FishHarder

...I got a 40 gallon breeder for $40 at Petsmart...

besides that's a nice size tank for a second display. Shame to monkey it up with all that glass.

glad to help.

MuShu · 03/24/2018, 05:47 PM

Seconding glass. And call around. One place quoted me $50 per piece, and the second place quoted me $8 per piece.

Ron Reefman · 03/25/2018, 04:33 AM

Just get very thin black acrylic or plastic hheets and cut them 1/8" smaller than the glass baffles. Attach the sheets to the glass after the glass is installed in the new sump. Super glue should work, but 3M 5200 would hold it forever!

mfaso24 · 03/25/2018, 04:38 AM

I used glass on my 40b sump. I didn’t get tinted glass though since the price was a lot more.

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FishHarder · 03/25/2018, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

Just get very thin black acrylic or plastic hheets and cut them 1/8" smaller than the glass baffles. Attach the sheets to the glass after the glass is installed in the new sump. Super glue should work, but 3M 5200 would hold it forever!

Kinda was the thing I was thinking. Since they say silicone and acrylic dont go together well inline if bond.

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FishHarder · 04/08/2018, 07:34 AM

Finished product

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billdogg · 04/08/2018, 08:17 AM

Nice job!

FishHarder · 04/09/2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by billdogg

Nice job!

Thank you

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03/24/2018, 05:51 AM	#1
FishHarder Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 35	Building a Sump. Hey everyone. I have a 110 gallon tank. Eshopp PF1000 hang in overflow and in my basement I have a 20 gallon sump from oecianic reef. Hate the sump. And have to. Use a CPR hang on refugium. For a refugium. Which I only just filled with miracle mud. 2 dayz ago. Found. I have 7 small fish in the tank. Anywho!! I got a 40 gallon breeder for $40 at Petsmart. Was going to build a sump with a nice refugium from layout I got on the interweb. I want to make a change though and make the the refuge panels dark to help fight algae growth in other chambers. So the question is..... Do I buy black acrylic panels on Amazon $35 a 24x24 shwet? Or do you have an idea on. Tinting glass walls.? Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

03/24/2018, 07:00 AM	#2
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	Glass panels are the best choice for a glass sump. You can get tinted glass at any local glass shop. They will cut the pieces to whatever size you like and sand the edges at little to no extra cost. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

03/24/2018, 03:18 PM	#3
James77 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 8,158	What I have done in the past on my overflow glass was smear a very thin layer of black silicone over the glass. Assuming that you don't want to do it on the inner baffles its very easy and quite cheap. __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: 120g Mixed Reef and 75g Freshwater

03/25/2018, 04:33 AM	#8
Ron Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 10,431	Just get very thin black acrylic or plastic hheets and cut them 1/8" smaller than the glass baffles. Attach the sheets to the glass after the glass is installed in the new sump. Super glue should work, but 3M 5200 would hold it forever! __________________ The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Visit my build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2593017

04/08/2018, 08:17 AM	#12
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	Nice job! __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

03/24/2018, 03:30 PM	#4
ramseynb Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: New Braunfels, TX Posts: 630	You can also look into reef safe spray paint. It's been a while, but one of the big spray paint brands made one that was reef safe. It was basically like plastic spray. I knew of a reefer that used it to spray his return pipes and durso pipes (so they were submerged) all black in his overflow and never had any issues.

03/24/2018, 05:35 PM	#5
on the spot Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Michigan Posts: 1,010	A 40 will be quite a bit shallower than that 50 - Since you have the basement I'd use a 10 gallon or so separate container for the refugium. or a 20. these are usually readily available and inexpensive.

03/24/2018, 05:47 PM	#7
MuShu Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 322	Seconding glass. And call around. One place quoted me $50 per piece, and the second place quoted me $8 per piece.

03/25/2018, 04:38 AM	#9
mfaso24 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 800	I used glass on my 40b sump. I didn’t get tinted glass though since the price was a lot more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/08/2018, 07:34 AM	#11
FishHarder Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 35	Finished product Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk