Antarctic Corals!! - Page 3

WaterKeeper · 04/13/2009, 12:35 PM

I'll ask Lew but he is in Germany, the Berlin Zoo I think, looking for new foods for Polar Bears.

luther1200 · 04/13/2009, 01:14 PM

I feed my polar bears stricly greens. They can't tolerate meat.

ibnozn · 04/13/2009, 10:41 PM

Those frags are pearling very nicely.

Keep the tank pegged at 30mg/l nitrate, 3mg/l phosphate and then diffuse enough Co2 into the tank during your photoperiod and they'll start to bubble like that apparently.

ghengis · 04/13/2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by ibnozn
Those frags are pearling very nicely.

Was just going to mention the same thing... Real noob question here, but is it common for coral to pearl? I know my planted FW tanks pearl madly all day, but I have never noticed this in any pics I have seen of reef tanks.

Looks stunning...!

redfishsc · 04/14/2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by DontGotReef
Was just going to mention the same thing... Real noob question here, but is it common for coral to pearl? I know my planted FW tanks pearl madly all day, but I have never noticed this in any pics I have seen of reef tanks.

Looks stunning...!

If you can promote a bloom of diatoms, dinoflagellates, or cyanobacteria, they will pearl for you as well. Even your front glass will pearl beautifully.

Your other option is to use a slow drip of Soda water. I prefer Perrier, with lime.

I've even seen some guys use a neat dosing pump involving a diet Coke and some Mentos. They had big tanks, though, and my small tanks would probably not respond well to an overabundance of Mentos.

Creade · 04/14/2009, 05:59 AM

"I'll ask Lew but he is in Germany, the Berlin Zoo I think, looking for new foods for Polar Bears"

I knew she didnt jump!

ghengis · 04/14/2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by redfishsc
If you can promote a bloom of diatoms, dinoflagellates, or cyanobacteria, they will pearl for you as well. Even your front glass will pearl beautifully.

Your other option is to use a slow drip of Soda water. I prefer Perrier, with lime.

I've even seen some guys use a neat dosing pump involving a diet Coke and some Mentos. They had big tanks, though, and my small tanks would probably not respond well to an overabundance of Mentos.

Yeah, I know all about various different types of algae pearling...TRUST ME!!lol. If it wasn't algae doing the pearling, it'd look pretty cool...however.

Yeah, have heard of the Soda water method of CO2 injection, but not particularly confident about the idea...too many mixed reports. I am happy to use DIY yeast, until pressurised becomes an option.

Sorry, off topic!!

redfishsc · 04/14/2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by DontGotReef
Yeah, I know all about various different types of algae pearling...TRUST ME!!lol. If it wasn't algae doing the pearling, it'd look pretty cool...however.

Yeah, have heard of the Soda water method of CO2 injection, but not particularly confident about the idea...too many mixed reports. I am happy to use DIY yeast, until pressurised becomes an option.

Sorry, off topic!!

I think you can also produce CO2 by mixing vinegar and baking soda. While it's possible to set up a slow drip whereby the vinegar drops slowly into a pile of baking soda, it would be hard to get the CO2 into the tank.

For that reason you might just be able to dump the vinegar and baking soda directly into your tank.

I recommend balsamic vinegar, it has so much more character than regular old white vinegar.

the808state · 04/14/2009, 06:25 PM

sorry, for not continuing the madness... but i thought i would share a few canadian pictures i found in the Victoria, BC area.

Heteropora pacifica - Staghorn bryozoan

Anthopleura elegantissima - Aggregating Anemone

Urticina piscivora - Fish-eating Anemone

Eudistylia vancouveri - Northern Featherduster Worm

Cadlina luteomarginata

Dirona albolineata

Hermissenda crassicornis

Triopha catalinae

more cool stuff here: (check out the stars!) http://www.marinelifephotography.com...a/bcmarine.htm

tmz · 04/14/2009, 08:11 PM

VEry nice . Thanks for sharing.

vsnph · 04/16/2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by luther1200
I feed my polar bears stricly greens. They can't tolerate meat.

Were they BETA ( Bears for the Ethical Treatment of Animals ) members ?

ohiofry · 04/16/2009, 07:02 AM

In...Lock?

jrw · 04/16/2009, 07:14 AM

Will this continue until May?

redfishsc · 04/16/2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by jrw
Will this continue until May?

Depends on whether antartic corals are a passing fad or here to stay.

I've already set up a pico reef dedicated to these. I'm working on a DIY bleach generator, although I think I'd be better off using a calcium hypochlorate reactor (aka, a Nilsen reactor with pool chlorine instead of kalk). Any opinions?

WaterKeeper · 04/16/2009, 01:39 PM

I hate using additives myself. Put the coral into 29Â°F water for awhile and let nature take its course.

redfishsc · 04/16/2009, 03:12 PM

Well, the problem with 29F water is that when I turn my chiller that low, all my water starts precipitating out of solution into this clear, glassy film on the surface.

Perhaps I should add some more Dowflake to help with that?

ghengis · 04/16/2009, 04:14 PM

Wouldn't Nappy-San (or the American equivelant) be a suitable additive? Its reputed to make "whites whiter and colours brighter..."

And I tells ya, if this gear can get the soil stains outta my nice white undergarments, after a week of hard wearing, it'd have to work wonders on keeping corals spotless...

tmz · 04/19/2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by WaterKeeper
I'll ask Lew but he is in Germany, the Berlin Zoo I think, looking for new foods for Polar Bears.

Memories. I lived in West Berlin from 1968 to 1970 while there was still a wall. Been to that zoo several times. Ask Lew it those polar bears still green. They were then, covered in cyanobacteria

redfishsc · 04/19/2009, 04:53 PM

Hmm. Intersting, I've never seen a polar bear covered in green cyano. It was always the burgandy stuff. Are you sure it wasn't bryopsis?

Maybe they could try rubbing the bears down everyday with a kalk paste.

tmz · 04/19/2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redfishsc
Hmm. Intersting, I've never seen a polar bear covered in green cyano. It was always the burgandy stuff. Are you sure it wasn't bryopsis?

Maybe they could try rubbing the bears down everyday with a kalk paste.

Could have been bryopsis ;not really sure.German beer was pretty strong. Maybe they weren't green at all;maybe orange or pink.

panic · 04/21/2009, 08:51 PM

What an oddity that so many others have been invited to share in this secret. My antartic collection grows every year in it's white brilliance with my innovative reefkeeping methods of only the 3 staples: HPS lamps, plenum, and daily addition of salt mix for evaporated salt. I have been propagating these animals for years and dose ketamine and haldol to the tank to decrease pain, anxiety, and fibromyalgia to the corals during clipping. My gems are so white and pure that I can leave them on the counter for hours, even days before the Cupramine dip.

gregod · 04/21/2009, 09:36 PM

I think i may have lucked out here. I was sold a frag of what was labeled as ORA green birdsnest. I think it's really one of these anti-arctic corals. I think the green on it was just some form of algae. Now that I have it in the proper conditions, the algae is dying off and exposing it's brilliant white crusty tissue. I will take some pictures in hopes that someone can identify it correctly. Could it be from the arctic instead of the anti-arctic? Is there a way to tell?

gregod · 04/21/2009, 09:42 PM

another thing, I am a little nervous about dosing bleach into my tank mainly because it burns my eyes when I am trying to take macro shots of my corals but I plan on dosing some oxi clean. Now that they have the spray away instant stain remover, i can target the fluffy algae that is growing on my anti-arctic acans too.

tmz · 04/21/2009, 09:46 PM

I believe the artic variety has white furry polyps thatyou can't really see because they only come out in very dark conditions. This comes from their close association with the polar bears of the artic.

redfishsc · 04/22/2009, 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by gregod but I plan on dosing some oxi clean. Now that they have the spray away instant stain remover, i can target the fluffy algae that is growing on my anti-arctic acans too. [/B]

Hmm. Target feeding with oxi-clean, that's creative! Let us know how it works out.

I've been thinking of putting a snow-king pleco in my antartic tank, hopefully I can find one this weekend.

04/13/2009, 12:35 PM	#51
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	I'll ask Lew but he is in Germany, the Berlin Zoo I think, looking for new foods for Polar Bears. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29 Last edited by WaterKeeper; 04/13/2009 at 01:34 PM.

04/13/2009, 01:14 PM	#52
luther1200 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NJ, shore Posts: 4,376	I feed my polar bears stricly greens. They can't tolerate meat. __________________ Matt, 65G reef tank Current Tank Info: 65g reef, mix of sps, lps, few softies. Hoping to upgrade within the year.

04/14/2009, 08:11 PM	#60
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	VEry nice . Thanks for sharing. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

04/16/2009, 01:39 PM	#65
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	I hate using additives myself. Put the coral into 29Â°F water for awhile and let nature take its course. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

04/16/2009, 03:12 PM	#66
redfishsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,696	Well, the problem with 29F water is that when I turn my chiller that low, all my water starts precipitating out of solution into this clear, glassy film on the surface. Perhaps I should add some more Dowflake to help with that? __________________ "The measure of a life is not its duration but its donation." Corrie Ten Boom “The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins” -- Søren Kierkegaard Current Tank Info: ghetto grad school reef.....11g rimless tank, 36X9X9, lit by Cree and Rebels scobbled together. Stocked mostly with free stuff I got from panhandling my fellow reefers.

04/13/2009, 10:41 PM	#53
ibnozn Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 162	Those frags are pearling very nicely. Keep the tank pegged at 30mg/l nitrate, 3mg/l phosphate and then diffuse enough Co2 into the tank during your photoperiod and they'll start to bubble like that apparently.

04/14/2009, 05:59 AM	#56
Creade Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 1,186	"I'll ask Lew but he is in Germany, the Berlin Zoo I think, looking for new foods for Polar Bears" I knew she didnt jump!

04/14/2009, 06:25 PM	#59
the808state Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Honolulu Posts: 623	sorry, for not continuing the madness... but i thought i would share a few canadian pictures i found in the Victoria, BC area. Heteropora pacifica - Staghorn bryozoan Anthopleura elegantissima - Aggregating Anemone Urticina piscivora - Fish-eating Anemone Eudistylia vancouveri - Northern Featherduster Worm Cadlina luteomarginata Dirona albolineata Hermissenda crassicornis Triopha catalinae more cool stuff here: (check out the stars!) http://www.marinelifephotography.com...a/bcmarine.htm

04/16/2009, 07:02 AM	#62
ohiofry Moved On Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 59	In...Lock?

04/16/2009, 07:14 AM	#63
jrw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Olney, Maryland Posts: 227	Will this continue until May?

04/16/2009, 04:14 PM	#67
ghengis Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cairns, Australia Posts: 81	Wouldn't Nappy-San (or the American equivelant) be a suitable additive? Its reputed to make "whites whiter and colours brighter..." And I tells ya, if this gear can get the soil stains outta my nice white undergarments, after a week of hard wearing, it'd have to work wonders on keeping corals spotless... __________________ Adam.

04/19/2009, 04:53 PM	#69
redfishsc Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,696	Hmm. Intersting, I've never seen a polar bear covered in green cyano. It was always the burgandy stuff. Are you sure it wasn't bryopsis? Maybe they could try rubbing the bears down everyday with a kalk paste. __________________ "The measure of a life is not its duration but its donation." Corrie Ten Boom “The tyrant dies and his rule is over, the martyr dies and his rule begins” -- Søren Kierkegaard Current Tank Info: ghetto grad school reef.....11g rimless tank, 36X9X9, lit by Cree and Rebels scobbled together. Stocked mostly with free stuff I got from panhandling my fellow reefers.

04/21/2009, 08:51 PM	#71
panic Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 802	What an oddity that so many others have been invited to share in this secret. My antartic collection grows every year in it's white brilliance with my innovative reefkeeping methods of only the 3 staples: HPS lamps, plenum, and daily addition of salt mix for evaporated salt. I have been propagating these animals for years and dose ketamine and haldol to the tank to decrease pain, anxiety, and fibromyalgia to the corals during clipping. My gems are so white and pure that I can leave them on the counter for hours, even days before the Cupramine dip.

04/21/2009, 09:36 PM	#72
gregod Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 566	I think i may have lucked out here. I was sold a frag of what was labeled as ORA green birdsnest. I think it's really one of these anti-arctic corals. I think the green on it was just some form of algae. Now that I have it in the proper conditions, the algae is dying off and exposing it's brilliant white crusty tissue. I will take some pictures in hopes that someone can identify it correctly. Could it be from the arctic instead of the anti-arctic? Is there a way to tell?

04/21/2009, 09:42 PM	#73
gregod Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 566	another thing, I am a little nervous about dosing bleach into my tank mainly because it burns my eyes when I am trying to take macro shots of my corals but I plan on dosing some oxi clean. Now that they have the spray away instant stain remover, i can target the fluffy algae that is growing on my anti-arctic acans too.

04/21/2009, 09:46 PM	#74
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	I believe the artic variety has white furry polyps thatyou can't really see because they only come out in very dark conditions. This comes from their close association with the polar bears of the artic. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.