Here is my big tank so far.

gooch · 01/06/2006, 10:29 PM

Tank is acrylic 6'x4'x25". Figure it is about 380-400 gallons.

I have had the tank six month but only started working on it a few weeks ago. Eventually there will be a wall put in and whats behind the tank will be the fish room.

The 1.5" pvc is actually a closed loop that will have a sequence 5800?(can't remember exact size but rated at 5600 at 4 ft of head or something like that). Another identical pump will be the return and also used for the skimmer and refugium. I plan on using 3-6000 streams, 2-6100 streams and one 6200 stream. This is subject to change. Also going to put a few pumps under the closed loop to keep detritus suspended.

I am doing this as money permits so it will probably go slow. I do have all the equipment and 90 percent of the livestock.

Here is the tank on the stand. It looks a lot bigger in person.

Scott

asnatlas · 01/06/2006, 10:42 PM

That is awesome, I love your 1.5" CL rock racks... I can't wait to see your rocks on them...

Looks like your overflows only go down like 1/2 way in each corner is that right ??

I take it you are prob going with a BB or faux SB ??

What did you use for the black creates that are fastened to the CL racks ??

Kent E · 01/06/2006, 11:32 PM

What is the black plastic mesh material that you used?

Carman34L · 01/06/2006, 11:53 PM

Very nice gooch, Looks alot like Energy's racking system.

Chaotic Reefer4u · 01/07/2006, 12:07 AM

nice

gooch · 01/07/2006, 05:07 AM

The black stuff is called VersaPad. It is $15 for a 4'x2' sheet. It's main use is at the bottom of dog kennels. It looks and feels like the material used in some types of stock tanks. I used exactly one sheet. I saw someone else in this forum use the same type of stuff. It is more flexible and much thicker than egg crate. Also has bigger openings so snails can keep it clean.

I will have a shallow sand bed in the front of the tank. Under the rack will be bare bottom. I also have a shallow pan in the center of the tank built into the rack for an elevated deep sand bed. It will be about 1'x1' and 3" deep. Basically this is for a jawfish for my daughter. I also think it will look neat to have a sand section eight inches or so off the bottom of the tank. It should be easy to remove and replace every year or so.

asnatlas · 01/07/2006, 06:36 AM

I would love to see more pics of your PVC racks, close ups...

Also where did you get the VersaPad from ??

Reefologist · 01/07/2006, 08:24 AM

Looks nice gooch....happy reefing....

Bebo77 · 01/07/2006, 12:43 PM

nice start...

Untamed12 · 01/07/2006, 02:50 PM

How high from the floor is the tank bottom? How high is your ceiling?

If I follow this correctly...all that PVC is a single closed loop? It must have 100 holes in it! Does this closed loop enter from the back of the tank or the bottom?

gooch · 01/07/2006, 07:42 PM

I didn't count how many holes I have. I think I have enough, if not I will make more.

Tank from floor 40"
Ceiling is 6'10" about. It is in a basement.
Ceiling to bottom of the tank is 41".
Pump to closed loop is 30"

The closed loop is all connected. It goes into the tank in two spots out the back of the tank under the overlows. I only have one drain.

The versa pad came from Fleet Farm, kinda a farm supply store/if you can't get it here you don't need it store. Around us we call it the mans mall.

sonofgaladriel · 01/07/2006, 08:22 PM

This is awesome!!! I think everything you have done is superb! Love that CL/rock support structure. It is genius!
Can't wait to follow this set up. Great tank size too. I'm considering an 8'x4'x2' but may be happy to settle with an 6'x4'x2' if space issues can't be worked out.
Thanks for sharing this.

Kinetic · 01/07/2006, 08:29 PM

that's so cool! great work!!!

gooch · 01/07/2006, 08:53 PM

I have put a lot of thought into the set up. Probably to much.

Here are some close ups of the closed loop.

Psyire · 01/07/2006, 09:00 PM

Looking good!

I just wanted to add this though: Be wary of those bulkheads. They look identicle to the type I have. I just found 2 of mine cracked and leaking after being fine for 6 months. I'd definately recommend ordering 'hayward' bulks and using them instead. Mine are atleast on an overflow so I don't have to drain my whole tank to change them out.

gooch · 01/07/2006, 09:00 PM

some equipment. Kalk doser,calcium reactor, skimmer.

The guy(Greg and Bob at ReefMania) built the tank and all the equipment above. Did a good job. Skimmer has 4 sedra 9000 recirculating with needlewheels. I only have it set up temporary on the holding system right now. I was using a sedra 5000 to drive the skimmer but reduced it to a sedra 3500 with a needlewheel. Actually got better skimmate with the smaller pump(thicker).

gooch · 01/07/2006, 09:02 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I will get new bulkheads. I can always use these on something else.

gooch · 01/07/2006, 09:05 PM

Sponge filter and refugium as well as my coral tank.

gooch · 01/07/2006, 09:10 PM

Thought this was a good picture of one of my stream rocks.

And my favorite zoanthids. They are the same ones on the stream rock.

Rendos · 01/08/2006, 09:15 AM

I love the idea and the setup! And your zoos, and other corals in the holding tanks look great!

srlumaye1 · 01/08/2006, 10:31 AM

Great job Gooch! I love what you did with the stream rocks...

I'm also glad you are setting the system up. It would have been sad if you had sold it.

Steve

MAreefer1 · 01/08/2006, 04:22 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOBHILT · 01/08/2006, 06:59 PM

great idea on the closed loop system doubling as rock racks,that is great idea.

gooch · 01/08/2006, 07:46 PM

Actually the rack will not be holding liverock. I am making my own rock.

It starts out looking like this.

And after about six months it looks like this.

Bax · 01/08/2006, 07:52 PM

Whoa! ... niiiice

01/06/2006, 10:29 PM	#1
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	Here is my big tank so far. Tank is acrylic 6'x4'x25". Figure it is about 380-400 gallons. I have had the tank six month but only started working on it a few weeks ago. Eventually there will be a wall put in and whats behind the tank will be the fish room. The 1.5" pvc is actually a closed loop that will have a sequence 5800?(can't remember exact size but rated at 5600 at 4 ft of head or something like that). Another identical pump will be the return and also used for the skimmer and refugium. I plan on using 3-6000 streams, 2-6100 streams and one 6200 stream. This is subject to change. Also going to put a few pumps under the closed loop to keep detritus suspended. I am doing this as money permits so it will probably go slow. I do have all the equipment and 90 percent of the livestock. Here is the tank on the stand. It looks a lot bigger in person. Scott __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/06/2006, 10:42 PM	#2
asnatlas Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waukee, IA Posts: 4,198	That is awesome, I love your 1.5" CL rock racks... I can't wait to see your rocks on them... Looks like your overflows only go down like 1/2 way in each corner is that right ?? I take it you are prob going with a BB or faux SB ?? What did you use for the black creates that are fastened to the CL racks ?? __________________ Shawn

01/06/2006, 11:32 PM	#3
Kent E One Millionth Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Asheboro NC Posts: 4,273	What is the black plastic mesh material that you used? __________________ 1000 gallon Current Tank Info: Dreaming up a new one

01/07/2006, 12:07 AM	#5
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01/07/2006, 05:07 AM	#6
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	The black stuff is called VersaPad. It is $15 for a 4'x2' sheet. It's main use is at the bottom of dog kennels. It looks and feels like the material used in some types of stock tanks. I used exactly one sheet. I saw someone else in this forum use the same type of stuff. It is more flexible and much thicker than egg crate. Also has bigger openings so snails can keep it clean. I will have a shallow sand bed in the front of the tank. Under the rack will be bare bottom. I also have a shallow pan in the center of the tank built into the rack for an elevated deep sand bed. It will be about 1'x1' and 3" deep. Basically this is for a jawfish for my daughter. I also think it will look neat to have a sand section eight inches or so off the bottom of the tank. It should be easy to remove and replace every year or so. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/06/2006, 11:53 PM	#4
Carman34L Moved On Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lake Elmo, Minnesota Posts: 644	Very nice gooch, Looks alot like Energy's racking system.

01/07/2006, 06:36 AM	#7
asnatlas Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waukee, IA Posts: 4,198	I would love to see more pics of your PVC racks, close ups... Also where did you get the VersaPad from ?? __________________ Shawn

01/07/2006, 08:24 AM	#8
Reefologist Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 374	Looks nice gooch....happy reefing.... __________________ "Life is 5% what happens to you, and 95% how you react. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA Mega Flow w/ Oceanic model 3 sump

01/07/2006, 12:43 PM	#9
Bebo77 Premium Nonpaying Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Lost Posts: 14,377	nice start... __________________ Gabriel Current Tank Info: 300 Gal Envision Tank(98Lx30Wx26T) 120 Gal SoCalCreations Sump, Deltec TC2560, 2 LumenarcsMini 1 Reg on a light mover W Radiums 250& 400, Gallaxy ballasts, Red Dragon 10m3 return W/ 2 WavySeas, 2 6155 Tunze streams

01/07/2006, 02:50 PM	#10
Untamed12 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,578	How high from the floor is the tank bottom? How high is your ceiling? If I follow this correctly...all that PVC is a single closed loop? It must have 100 holes in it! Does this closed loop enter from the back of the tank or the bottom?

01/07/2006, 07:42 PM	#11
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	I didn't count how many holes I have. I think I have enough, if not I will make more. Tank from floor 40" Ceiling is 6'10" about. It is in a basement. Ceiling to bottom of the tank is 41". Pump to closed loop is 30" The closed loop is all connected. It goes into the tank in two spots out the back of the tank under the overlows. I only have one drain. The versa pad came from Fleet Farm, kinda a farm supply store/if you can't get it here you don't need it store. Around us we call it the mans mall. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/07/2006, 08:22 PM	#12
sonofgaladriel Shiny! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,670	This is awesome!!! I think everything you have done is superb! Love that CL/rock support structure. It is genius! Can't wait to follow this set up. Great tank size too. I'm considering an 8'x4'x2' but may be happy to settle with an 6'x4'x2' if space issues can't be worked out. Thanks for sharing this. __________________ Its not who you are, but what you do that defines you.

01/07/2006, 08:29 PM	#13
Kinetic Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 7,230	that's so cool! great work!!!

01/07/2006, 08:53 PM	#14
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	I have put a lot of thought into the set up. Probably to much. Here are some close ups of the closed loop. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/07/2006, 09:00 PM	#15
Psyire Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,870	Looking good! I just wanted to add this though: Be wary of those bulkheads. They look identicle to the type I have. I just found 2 of mine cracked and leaking after being fine for 6 months. I'd definately recommend ordering 'hayward' bulks and using them instead. Mine are atleast on an overflow so I don't have to drain my whole tank to change them out.

01/07/2006, 09:02 PM	#17
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	Thanks for the heads up. I will get new bulkheads. I can always use these on something else. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/07/2006, 09:05 PM	#18
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	Sponge filter and refugium as well as my coral tank. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/07/2006, 09:10 PM	#19
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	Thought this was a good picture of one of my stream rocks. And my favorite zoanthids. They are the same ones on the stream rock. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/08/2006, 09:15 AM	#20
Rendos Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 5,380	I love the idea and the setup! And your zoos, and other corals in the holding tanks look great! __________________ Richard Rendos - Founder WTMRAC It can't rain all the time. Current Tank Info: 92 gallon corner bowfront

01/08/2006, 10:31 AM	#21
srlumaye1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 256	Great job Gooch! I love what you did with the stream rocks... I'm also glad you are setting the system up. It would have been sad if you had sold it. Steve

01/08/2006, 04:22 PM	#22
MAreefer1 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MA Posts: 769	WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ BRS Current Tank Info: 75 gallons of SW,55 main 20 gallon fuge

01/08/2006, 06:59 PM	#23
BOBHILT Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDLS Posts: 70	tank great idea on the closed loop system doubling as rock racks,that is great idea.

01/08/2006, 07:46 PM	#24
gooch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Parts Known Posts: 1,489	Actually the rack will not be holding liverock. I am making my own rock. It starts out looking like this. And after about six months it looks like this. __________________ There has got to be a better way. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef.

01/08/2006, 07:52 PM	#25
Bax Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,619	Whoa! ... niiiice __________________ 150 gallon Perfecto with 1500 gph GH overflow / DIY stand-wine bar / Dart Return / SRO XP3000 Ext skimmer / 75 g frag / 40 g fuge / 40 g DIY sump / Orphek P156 & Kessil 150A Current Tank Info: 150 DT/ 40B fuge/ 75g frag/ 40 g sump/ SRO XP 3000 Ext/ TUNZEs & VorTechs circulation/Dart return/ MTC Pro Cal/ UV & Oz