any quick fixes millions od little bubbles in my tank

aquaholic33 · 02/26/2006, 05:44 PM

I think the root of my problems are comming from my baclpack 2 but have
no idea how to fix. Then again it may not be from that entirly. I have
millions of air bubbles travleing threw my tank and it's giving the
tank a cloudy look. As filtration I am running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum
with micron filter on it. As for protein skimming I have a 2 backpackII
and 1 berlin red sea skimmer.
These bubbles are driving me crazy. SOMEBODY HELP ME!!??

douggiestyle · 02/26/2006, 06:28 PM

shut off all your skimmers and see what happens. if bubbles stop, then turn each skimmer on one at a time waiting between each start up to see if anything happens. this should help you diagnose the problem.

aquaholic33 · 02/26/2006, 09:26 PM

that won't hurt the tank having them off for a day or 2?

Godoftheseas · 02/26/2006, 09:36 PM

my bakpak skimmer does that pretty much everytime i feed the tank. It usually goes away in about a hour or so, My vote would be to leave it on for a while and see if it takes care of itself.

aquaholic33 · 02/26/2006, 09:39 PM

i think i am going to get rid of the backpack and my berlin and get a new skimmer inslead of have 2. It's you screwed one way or the other. Looks bad with it on, bad for fish with it off.
ANy sugestions for a 180gallon. (bang for the buck) not looks to break the bank.

ilango · 02/26/2006, 10:59 PM

Isolate the problem to the source and then think about the solution.

bladze · 02/27/2006, 12:11 AM

give it couple days to break in. It's normal when it creates micro bubbles the first few days.

douggiestyle · 02/27/2006, 08:56 AM

you shouldnt have to shut every thing of for a day or two. just the skimmers. and only for maybe an hour possibly much less. then turn each one on one at a time. unless of course its your return from the sump. in which case the micro bubbles will not cease after shutting off skimmers for an hour or less.

RandyStacyE · 02/27/2006, 09:02 AM

If you're feeding with brine shrimp try using a sieve placed in warm water then drop in a chunk of brine shrimp. This will obviously thaw the brine shrimp quickly. The point is you will have pure brine shrimp without all the junk. You would not believe all the nasty fluid that comes with your brine.

This may help with your problem and other problems.

aquaholic33 · 02/27/2006, 09:09 AM

the bubbles are comming from my sump. I have the tidepoolII system.Now what

douggiestyle · 02/27/2006, 09:23 AM

what is the water level in the sump? are any of the trays overflowing? is the pump sucking air?

i also own a tide pool

aquaholic33 · 02/27/2006, 09:29 AM

Thw water level is is 6 inches. This is driving me crazy. This moring I pulled everyrhing from my sumps so I can work easier. The sumps are causing the bubbles. the returns are under water by3" so I knoe air isn't commming form there.

aquaholic33 · 02/27/2006, 09:30 AM

Now you mentioned it I do have an overflowing tray? why?

douggiestyle · 02/27/2006, 09:50 AM

that causes a problem for me every time.

aquaholic33 · 02/27/2006, 09:52 AM

i'm gonna change out some media and see what happen

thanks

douggiestyle · 02/27/2006, 09:54 AM

the overflowing tray causes the water to not run over the biowheel creating bubbles which get sucked into the pump and chopped up.

aquaholic33 · 02/27/2006, 09:56 AM

Very smart! why didn't i think of that

RandyStacyE · 02/27/2006, 04:32 PM

If any plumbing on the suction side of the return pump is loose it will give you this microbubble problem as well.

douggiestyle · 03/01/2006, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aquaholic33
Very smart! why didn't i think of that

are bubbles gone?

aquaholic33 · 03/01/2006, 07:58 AM

well i shut everythig down for 2 hours. bubbles were gone. the problem is comming from the wet/dry. marineland tidepool II. i think i need to by a sponge to trap the bubbles. do they sell one?

aquaholic33 · 03/01/2006, 07:59 AM

they are back

douggiestyle · 03/01/2006, 08:29 AM

what size pump are you using?

i found that if i did not attach a 90 el facing down towards the bottom of the sump. the pump would draw air from the surface.

aquaholic33 · 03/01/2006, 08:31 AM

I HAVE AZOO 1500 HOOKED UP BUT ONLY TO THE SKIMMER. NO LINES ARE GOING INTO TANK

aquaholic33 · 03/01/2006, 08:33 AM

OH WITH MY RETURN, I HAVE THE LITTLE GIANT. my bad

RandyStacyE · 03/01/2006, 11:35 AM

I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know how your plumbing to your pump is set up but a sponge pre-filter before your pump would definitely work too.

The problem is quite probably the pump sucking air bubbles (like douggiestyle said) try a 90 elbow. That is what protein skimmers use to keep air bubbles from escaping from their reaction chambers.

A sponge does just give you some mechanical filtration, helps with air and adds to your maintenance. Nothing wrong with using them, but I prefer to keep from it.

02/26/2006, 05:44 PM	#1
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	any quick fixes millions od little bubbles in my tank I think the root of my problems are comming from my baclpack 2 but have no idea how to fix. Then again it may not be from that entirly. I have millions of air bubbles travleing threw my tank and it's giving the tank a cloudy look. As filtration I am running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum with micron filter on it. As for protein skimming I have a 2 backpackII and 1 berlin red sea skimmer. These bubbles are driving me crazy. SOMEBODY HELP ME!!?? __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/26/2006, 09:26 PM	#3
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	that won't hurt the tank having them off for a day or 2? __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/26/2006, 09:39 PM	#5
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	i think i am going to get rid of the backpack and my berlin and get a new skimmer inslead of have 2. It's you screwed one way or the other. Looks bad with it on, bad for fish with it off. ANy sugestions for a 180gallon. (bang for the buck) not looks to break the bank. __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/27/2006, 09:09 AM	#10
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	the bubbles are comming from my sump. I have the tidepoolII system.Now what __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/27/2006, 09:29 AM	#12
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	Thw water level is is 6 inches. This is driving me crazy. This moring I pulled everyrhing from my sumps so I can work easier. The sumps are causing the bubbles. the returns are under water by3" so I knoe air isn't commming form there. __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/26/2006, 06:28 PM	#2
douggiestyle Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MOON Posts: 1,736	shut off all your skimmers and see what happens. if bubbles stop, then turn each skimmer on one at a time waiting between each start up to see if anything happens. this should help you diagnose the problem.

02/26/2006, 09:36 PM	#4
Godoftheseas Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 64	my bakpak skimmer does that pretty much everytime i feed the tank. It usually goes away in about a hour or so, My vote would be to leave it on for a while and see if it takes care of itself.

02/26/2006, 10:59 PM	#6
ilango Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Srilanka Posts: 254	Isolate the problem to the source and then think about the solution.

02/27/2006, 12:11 AM	#7
bladze Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 325	give it couple days to break in. It's normal when it creates micro bubbles the first few days.

02/27/2006, 08:56 AM	#8
douggiestyle Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MOON Posts: 1,736	you shouldnt have to shut every thing of for a day or two. just the skimmers. and only for maybe an hour possibly much less. then turn each one on one at a time. unless of course its your return from the sump. in which case the micro bubbles will not cease after shutting off skimmers for an hour or less.

02/27/2006, 09:02 AM	#9
RandyStacyE Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,659	If you're feeding with brine shrimp try using a sieve placed in warm water then drop in a chunk of brine shrimp. This will obviously thaw the brine shrimp quickly. The point is you will have pure brine shrimp without all the junk. You would not believe all the nasty fluid that comes with your brine. This may help with your problem and other problems.

02/27/2006, 09:23 AM	#11
douggiestyle Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MOON Posts: 1,736	what is the water level in the sump? are any of the trays overflowing? is the pump sucking air? i also own a tide pool

02/27/2006, 09:30 AM	#13
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	Now you mentioned it I do have an overflowing tray? why? __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/27/2006, 09:50 AM	#14
douggiestyle Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MOON Posts: 1,736	that causes a problem for me every time.

02/27/2006, 09:52 AM	#15
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	i'm gonna change out some media and see what happen thanks __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/27/2006, 09:54 AM	#16
douggiestyle Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MOON Posts: 1,736	the overflowing tray causes the water to not run over the biowheel creating bubbles which get sucked into the pump and chopped up.

02/27/2006, 09:56 AM	#17
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	Very smart! why didn't i think of that __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

02/27/2006, 04:32 PM	#18
RandyStacyE Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,659	If any plumbing on the suction side of the return pump is loose it will give you this microbubble problem as well.

03/01/2006, 07:58 AM	#20
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	well i shut everythig down for 2 hours. bubbles were gone. the problem is comming from the wet/dry. marineland tidepool II. i think i need to by a sponge to trap the bubbles. do they sell one? __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

03/01/2006, 07:59 AM	#21
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	they are back __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

03/01/2006, 08:29 AM	#22
douggiestyle Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MOON Posts: 1,736	what size pump are you using? i found that if i did not attach a 90 el facing down towards the bottom of the sump. the pump would draw air from the surface.

03/01/2006, 08:31 AM	#23
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	I HAVE AZOO 1500 HOOKED UP BUT ONLY TO THE SKIMMER. NO LINES ARE GOING INTO TANK __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

03/01/2006, 08:33 AM	#24
aquaholic33 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: clayton north carolina Posts: 121	OH WITH MY RETURN, I HAVE THE LITTLE GIANT. my bad __________________ If you can't fit in your tank it's to small. Current Tank Info: 180 gallon with a 90 gallon sump filter setup.Running 2 tidepoolII 1 magnum w/micron filter. As for fish I have 1 yellow tang/3 hippo tangs/1 yellow eye tang/purple tang,siz line wrasse

03/01/2006, 11:35 AM	#25
RandyStacyE Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,659	I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know how your plumbing to your pump is set up but a sponge pre-filter before your pump would definitely work too. The problem is quite probably the pump sucking air bubbles (like douggiestyle said) try a 90 elbow. That is what protein skimmers use to keep air bubbles from escaping from their reaction chambers. A sponge does just give you some mechanical filtration, helps with air and adds to your maintenance. Nothing wrong with using them, but I prefer to keep from it.