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09/17/2019, 03:20 AM | #1 |
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Marine Betta with eggs
Sunday afternoon I noticed that the larger Marine Betta of my second pair was attending to a nest of eggs:
This may have been their first spawn. The nest is relatively small since the female is still small. I got them both quite small almost 4 years ago. The female is a Sea & Reef captive-bred, the male is wild-caught. Both were females when I got them.
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09/17/2019, 06:43 PM | #2 |
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Very cool. Well done.
Should the eggs hatch, how difficult is the rearing of the fry?
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09/17/2019, 08:54 PM | #3 | |
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But right now I don't have the food cultures to get a couple thousand larva through the first weeks and also no suitable tanks - standard rectangular tanks just don't work well enough.
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09/17/2019, 09:04 PM | #4 |
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What about just pick 20-40 of the largest ones and try to raise them?
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Usually, you need to start with the whole batch and let natural selection do its thing...
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09/18/2019, 04:42 AM | #6 |
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If I don’t have enough food, I just raise about the numbers of fries I have food for. I just pick what ever the number I think I have food for and separate them and do my best raising them. The rest I just let the fish in the tank take it course. I can’t say nature take it course because my tank is not Nature.
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09/18/2019, 08:03 AM | #7 |
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My experience with picking a handful isn't the best. And at the time you need to pick there isn't really a good way to determine who is a winner and will fall by the wayside. In my experience that comes down to how good a larva accepts the offered food. The picky eaters usually don't make it regardless if there is a lot or a little competition.
But right now my real problem is not really the food but rather having a suitable tank to raise larva in. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
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09/28/2019, 06:16 PM | #8 |
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So back on 91-92 did you actually raise to how big and how long did it took? Also what you end up did with all of them? Very cool
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10/02/2019, 02:44 AM | #9 |
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It took about 8 months to get them to around an inch. At that point, I sold most of them.
This was one of those at about 6 weeks: Of the first hatch, only 8 survived. One I kept knowingly, 6 I sold, and one that had slipped through the overflow drain and was believed to be dead resurfaced a little over two years later in the sump tank as the second female to another Marine Betta pair I kept there together with a fully grown pair of Clarkii. The one I kept knowingly went all the way to spawning himself: The second batch I raised yielded 13 and I sold all of those. Back then it was a pretty big deal and Fossa and Nielsen came by to take pictures for their books: The issue is that you need better larval foods than rotifers and brine shrimp. On top of that, you also need special larva rearing tanks - square tanks won't work. I used an octagonal tank with a rotational flow that was plumbed into the parent's system. Even better would be a plankton kreisel like it is used for jellyfish.
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10/02/2019, 06:29 AM | #10 |
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Very cool and very impressive. What a honor to have Fossa and Nielsen come take pictures for their books!
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10/02/2019, 06:31 AM | #11 |
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Very good. I would love to buy a fish from you if you decide to raise this patch.
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12/08/2019, 12:48 AM | #12 |
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I caught them with another nest in the same location. Over the holidays I plan to modify either a 20L or a 20T to a Kreisel larva tank. And in parallel, I got to get food organism cultures going, especially Brachionus S type and Tisbe. Once I got all that ready I plan on raising a batch of Marine Bettas.
I also plan on setting up another pair. Two weeks ago I found a large one that might be a young male or a female in transition to become a male, and today I got a nice sized female to pair it with. I plan to put those with the Amphiprion milii where I will have better access to the eggs than in the large display tank. I plan also to make a few smaller, 10-gallon larva tanks for pipefish and my Assessors. Hopefully, by summer of next year, I got the first baby fish.
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12/29/2019, 02:55 PM | #13 |
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Thanks you for answers to my questions. Very cool babies picture
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