My 168g Cube Build! - Page 4

pecan2phat · 04/26/2017, 08:04 AM

Have you considered a vent system?
Open sump in an enclosed room can lead to many issues down the road.

jpitch · 04/26/2017, 09:15 AM

As a matter of fact I did consider it. I guess I could at the very least put some vents for passive ventilation. From past experience I'm always working around the sump area so the door(s) will be open often. And on that note I hope it'll increase the humidity in the house since I have forced air. Thanks for the advice! I love receiving input!

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jpitch · 04/26/2017, 01:32 PM

Stand routed, sanded, and stained!

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martinphillip03 · 04/27/2017, 06:42 AM

Looking good!

Marty

jpitch · 04/29/2017, 06:35 PM

And so it begins!

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jpitch · 04/30/2017, 04:53 PM

UUUGHHHH! Plumbing turning out to be a pita. Every time I calculate a pipe through a wall there's a stud! Gotta remind myself that the whole process is enjoyment. It's the journey, not the destination....

Namaste

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jpitch · 05/02/2017, 11:41 AM

The sump is in! Figured out some of the plumbing. About to install the water containers.

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jpitch · 05/03/2017, 06:26 PM

Water station nearly done.

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martinphillip03 · 05/03/2017, 10:11 PM

How many gallons is the water station?

Marty

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Water station nearly done.

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jpitch · 05/03/2017, 10:13 PM

Both tanks (there's another one above it in my bedroom closet) are 26g. The Freshwater tank sits above it and gravity feeds the one you see for salt water.

Vinny Kreyling · 05/04/2017, 08:18 AM

JP,
I would give the placement of the RO another thought.
We all like things neat (well most do) & tucked away, but if changing cartridges has even the slightest difficulty move it now, under the tank so no ladder is involved.
A fault waiting to happen with that sump under everything.

jpitch · 05/04/2017, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny Kreyling

JP,
I would give the placement of the RO another thought.
We all like things neat (well most do) & tucked away, but if changing cartridges has even the slightest difficulty move it now, under the tank so no ladder is involved.
A fault waiting to happen with that sump under everything.

You brought up an overlooked point, Vinny. I just checked to location and ease of access to the rodi and it looks like it shouldn't be a problem. It's an arm's length away and a small step stool is all that's needed to change the filters. Thank god for the 2 way access!

Thanks for the observation friend.

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Vinny Kreyling · 05/04/2017, 09:01 AM

JP, if you ever dropped anything, (don't we all), I would move it.
Good chance it could break the sump. BUT-- up to you.

jpitch · 05/04/2017, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny Kreyling

JP, if you ever dropped anything, (don't we all), I would move it.
Good chance it could break the sump. BUT-- up to you.

Hmm now you got me thinking. I'm kind of limited on my options. I cant put anything under the tank because my autistic stepson will have access to it.

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martinphillip03 · 05/04/2017, 01:32 PM

So your basement water station no longer exists?

Marty

jpitch · 05/04/2017, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinphillip03

So your basement water station no longer exists?

Marty

Nope. Nothing is in the basement anymore

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Vinny Kreyling · 05/04/2017, 03:42 PM

I was speaking of the water storage tank sir.

jpitch · 05/05/2017, 10:51 AM

Plumbing nearly completed!

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Vinny Kreyling · 05/05/2017, 12:26 PM

No wonder it cost you ---
true union ball valves --

bid2ask · 05/06/2017, 07:24 AM

that closet is gonna need some sort of exhaust fan for humidity imo, my sump room was 10x10 and humidity was over 80% until i installed a bathroom exhaust fan in it.

pecan2phat · 05/06/2017, 09:23 AM

I had 3 open topped tanks and 2 sumps in a 9'x17' enclosed converted fish room with a commercial inline fan and humidistat installed. While the room was sheet rocked, I thought the inline exhaust fan and the occasional dehumidifier would do the trick but 5 years later, anything metal started to rust prematurely and the dreaded mold started up on the concrete foundation walls that led up from the basement steps.
Just my experience.

jpitch · 05/06/2017, 10:09 AM

Wow! Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I'll be working on a ventilation plan soon!

pecan2phat · 05/07/2017, 08:13 AM

I've seen larger setups then mine in unfinished basements without the problems (seems like sheetrock is a problem) that I had but doesn't explain the mold on the foundation walls. I did notice that their HVAC piping also started to show initial starting of rust after time though.

jpitch · 05/07/2017, 07:01 PM

Comments? Suggestions?

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jpitch · 05/07/2017, 07:11 PM

Changed it up a little bit

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04/26/2017, 09:15 AM	#77
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	As a matter of fact I did consider it. I guess I could at the very least put some vents for passive ventilation. From past experience I'm always working around the sump area so the door(s) will be open often. And on that note I hope it'll increase the humidity in the house since I have forced air. Thanks for the advice! I love receiving input! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

04/26/2017, 01:32 PM	#78
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Stand routed, sanded, and stained! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

04/29/2017, 06:35 PM	#80
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	And so it begins! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

04/30/2017, 04:53 PM	#81
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	UUUGHHHH! Plumbing turning out to be a pita. Every time I calculate a pipe through a wall there's a stud! Gotta remind myself that the whole process is enjoyment. It's the journey, not the destination.... Namaste Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

05/02/2017, 11:41 AM	#82
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	My 168g Cube Build! The sump is in! Figured out some of the plumbing. About to install the water containers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

04/26/2017, 08:04 AM	#76
pecan2phat Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wallingford, CT Posts: 4,990	Have you considered a vent system? Open sump in an enclosed room can lead to many issues down the road.

04/27/2017, 06:42 AM	#79
martinphillip03 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,300	Looking good! Marty

05/03/2017, 06:26 PM	#83
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Water station nearly done. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

05/03/2017, 10:13 PM	#85
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Both tanks (there's another one above it in my bedroom closet) are 26g. The Freshwater tank sits above it and gravity feeds the one you see for salt water. __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

05/04/2017, 08:18 AM	#86
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	JP, I would give the placement of the RO another thought. We all like things neat (well most do) & tucked away, but if changing cartridges has even the slightest difficulty move it now, under the tank so no ladder is involved. A fault waiting to happen with that sump under everything. __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

05/04/2017, 09:01 AM	#88
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	JP, if you ever dropped anything, (don't we all), I would move it. Good chance it could break the sump. BUT-- up to you. __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

05/04/2017, 01:32 PM	#90
martinphillip03 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,300	So your basement water station no longer exists? Marty

05/04/2017, 03:42 PM	#92
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	I was speaking of the water storage tank sir. __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

05/05/2017, 10:51 AM	#93
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Plumbing nearly completed! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

05/05/2017, 12:26 PM	#94
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	No wonder it cost you --- true union ball valves -- __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

05/06/2017, 07:24 AM	#95
bid2ask Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Port Jefferson NY Posts: 171	that closet is gonna need some sort of exhaust fan for humidity imo, my sump room was 10x10 and humidity was over 80% until i installed a bathroom exhaust fan in it. __________________ 200DD, 75 gal sump, 20 gal frag tank, Reeflo Dart, 3 Tunze 6105's, 2-250watt Radium 20k halides in Lumenbright reflectors, 48" Acan royal blue LED strip, ATB KD150 Calcium Reactor, ATB 8.5 Deluxe

05/06/2017, 09:23 AM	#96
pecan2phat Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wallingford, CT Posts: 4,990	I had 3 open topped tanks and 2 sumps in a 9'x17' enclosed converted fish room with a commercial inline fan and humidistat installed. While the room was sheet rocked, I thought the inline exhaust fan and the occasional dehumidifier would do the trick but 5 years later, anything metal started to rust prematurely and the dreaded mold started up on the concrete foundation walls that led up from the basement steps. Just my experience.

05/06/2017, 10:09 AM	#97
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Wow! Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I'll be working on a ventilation plan soon! __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

05/07/2017, 08:13 AM	#98
pecan2phat Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wallingford, CT Posts: 4,990	I've seen larger setups then mine in unfinished basements without the problems (seems like sheetrock is a problem) that I had but doesn't explain the mold on the foundation walls. I did notice that their HVAC piping also started to show initial starting of rust after time though.

05/07/2017, 07:01 PM	#99
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Comments? Suggestions? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2

05/07/2017, 07:11 PM	#100
jpitch Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Middle Island, NY Posts: 908	Changed it up a little bit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 36X36X30 DT, 75g sump, Vertex Vectra L1 return pump, Apex 2016, Apex DOS +DDR, Apex 1link, 4 X Kessil A360's, Vertex Alpha 170, Maxspect Gyre 250 x2