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Old 09/03/2019, 06:37 PM   #1051
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Good job Michael and thank you for telling us, followers what you did step by step to beat uronema. I never used to QT fish but ever since I began keeping seahorses where QT new ponies is important, I began QTing all my fish. It definitely cuts down on fish deaths. I used to say if I could get a fish past the first 2 weeks I could have that fish for years. Well QT has upped my percentage of getting them past the 1st 2 weeks.


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Old 09/03/2019, 06:57 PM   #1052
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Thank you Dawn!

After seeing too many fish die, I knew I would have to up my QT game. I want specific fish, that fit into a plan. In the past I could just try fish I liked, and keep what lived.

I have learned so much from this experience. That's good! I just don't want to claim victory too soon. I'll feel better at two weeks!


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Old 09/04/2019, 10:09 AM   #1053
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1 week into quarantine, I still have four Allen's Damsels. I'm gaining confidence!

Who da thunk quarantining damsels would be so challenging?! For some reason, these particular damsels don't ship well, so they come in very stressed and vulnerable to illness. The first day they looked fine. Day two and one was dead, and the rest had lesions on their sides. Uronema happens so fast! I was very fortunate to have caught it in time to prevent the rest from dying.

I did the research, bought the meds, made a plan, and executed it. This is a big turning point for me. I was always too slack and impatient to do a proper QT process. And I had zero success with meds. Armed with newfound knowledge, I feel like I now have a fighting chance of keeping new fish alive. It feels good!


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Old 09/05/2019, 12:45 PM   #1054
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QT Day eight! I still have four Allen's Damsels.

I'm back to considering moving one fish in with the other single. I think he needs to be socialized. He hides too much, in my estimation. The two in a tank together are out and about much, much more. Now that I'm more or less out of the woods with uronema, I think now may be a good time to do it.

I'm not sure I have enough good reasons to do it though. After good health, I want the fish to be happy and well adapted, so it can take its place in the community. Moving it to the tank in my home office will give me a better view of him, plus I'm in there more, so I can keep tabs on him better. I believe he'll come out his shell, with a buddy to interact with.

Potential downsides? Increased stress. Reinfection. Fighting. Death.

I'm going to think about it more. If I do move him, I'll report the results.


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Old 09/05/2019, 08:46 PM   #1055
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Dusk on the Seagrass Sandbar/Patch Reef



Here's a shot of the new, blue supplemental light, after the main, metal halide light turns off. I love the gradation of light across the tank. It's fun to go from the warm colors of the metal halide to the cool blue dusk tones. After that, it's the LED moonlight. Having multiple light settings really adds to the fun!


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Old 09/06/2019, 04:29 AM   #1056
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I really like the lighting for the dusk/dawn look. Such a soothing mood to unwind to.


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Old 09/06/2019, 10:05 AM   #1057
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Thanks Dawn! It is soothing.

The bulb itself is nothing fancy. It's a 23 watt, 100 watt equivalent, compact fluorescent flood light, with a blue lens. I like it better than the daylight bulb it replaced, which was too bright for a proper transition to dark. Plus who doesn't like blue.

Day 9 on the Allen's Damsels' quarantine. Four damsels still remain.

I still haven't moved the singles together. I guess there's really no rush. Maybe I'll give it another week. I hesitate to do it, when I consider the risk. I keep asking myself, "am I more confident the fish will continue to live in the tank it's in, or moved into another tank?" My answer is that I'm more confident keeping him where he is. Stress of capture, fighting, competition for food, disease transmittal, all pop into my head. I'd really be kicking myself if I moved him and he died!

I do think it'll happen at some point. We'll see.


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Old 09/07/2019, 05:59 PM   #1058
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I redirected a few fern caulerpas towards the back wall. Removed any feather caulerpa I found. Exported only a little of the brown grasilaria. I cleaned the glass.

Other than that, I'm letting Nature do its thing. The brown grasilaria on the sand bed does appear to be providing habitat for pods 'n friends. This could be very good! A sustainable pod population in tank full of pod-eaters would be amazing.

I still hope to get the back wall enveloped in green. The fern caulerpa is climbing. A few others are trying to establish. A little time will help.

Speaking of time, it's QT DAY 10 for four Allen's Damsels. Woo!

They're looking good! The only treatment they're getting now is hypo salinity. They're off medicated food, and enjoying mysids, cyclops and flake food. I'm so stoked to have gotten them this far. I think they're gonna make it. This experience gives me so much confidence going forward.

I really look forward to getting them into the display. Six of these living jewels zipping around is going to be cool! Quarantine is such delicious anticipation! These fish have already become important to me, because of the struggle we shared. The financial cost loses importance.

After observing the three tuxedo damsels for a while now, I think I may add two more. Given the space they have and their personalities, five should be just about right. They're pretty mellow. I love how they look too. I'll wait and see how the new Allen's do with everyone first though. I want the fish to be happy with their numbers, so they can interact naturally, without undue stress. I have truly enjoyed studying these beautiful creatures!


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Old 09/08/2019, 12:46 AM   #1059
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Old 09/08/2019, 09:40 PM   #1060
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Today I moved a couple of manatee grass plants. They had grown too close to the walls, so I moved them towards the middle, where they're needed. If these transplanting go well, I may move more.

I rotated the rock with the turtle weed on it, to see if I can get it to grow onto the back wall. This is the plant I want the most on the walls, but so far it hasn't happened. I'm not sure how to manipulate it without damaging it. I think I just need to give it everything it wants, so it grows and spreads.

Got some new pics posted last night. I tried to get some good ones of the fish, but they're challenging. It's hard to capture their beauty.


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Old 09/10/2019, 10:16 PM   #1061
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QT day 13. Four fish remain. So stoked!


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Old 09/11/2019, 02:57 PM   #1062
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That's great that your damsels are doing well in QT! Your tank will really pop when you finally get it fully stocked. Heck, right now, it looks fantastic! Your research on your damsel choices really paid off, as well as with the QT steps you've taken. Nicely done.


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Old 09/11/2019, 03:47 PM   #1063
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Thanks Kevin!

I appreciate your encouragement on QT. I really had a bad run there, so I had to make some serious changes. Beating Uronema is very encouraging.

The Damsels are beautiful. I'm kind of returning to my roots of very colorful, graphic fish, like I had in my first marine tank. It's fun!

Two weeks into QT!


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Old 09/12/2019, 05:23 PM   #1064
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I love the pics! Your tank is moving into a more mature appearance and with the stark splashes of color from the fish its very appealing. I am happy that it has been so enjoyable (and successful) thus far.


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Old 09/12/2019, 09:16 PM   #1065
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Thanks Dawn!

Yes the tank is maturing. I look forward to the greens getting more coverage - a lot more. I may need to prune back some of the reds. My Manatee Grass looks like it's been scarred by a boat propeller. Ulva has stepped in to fill the scar for a while, while it heals. I kind of like it. Its like lemonade from lemons! Also letting the brown grasilaria grow as a ground cover between the seagrasses is doing well too. The fern caulerpa is also crisscrossing the sand bed, and climbing the fake walls.

Stark splashes of color describes the fish well. I can't wait to have the four new blue guys in there! Once they're in I'll watch them for a while then decide what's next. I'm guessing I could keep as many as ten, but I want to keep them low stress, so we'll see how six do, and then decide.

It has been enjoyable! Assisting Nature in building an ecosystem in a box is an enlightening journey. I'm also surprised how much enjoyment I got out of quarantine success. Keep learning!


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QT day 18. Four fish still remain.

Everything looks good, after two days away camping.

The second mangrove pod has sprouted two leaves, so they're both growing. I don't know if starting them out fully submerged will work out, but I'm hopeful. I've seen photos of them in Nature growing like that. From what I read, getting the roots in the dirt is the best start for them. I've also read that having the growth tip above water gives them more oxygen access. So this is an experiment. Can they get enough from their roots to extend their leaves to the surface?

The important thing for me was to give them a shot at growth, in a way that I could live with for the next several years. It's got to look right, or I don't want them. There's no way I was going to float them in styrofoam, or some other hideous arrangement. I am done with ugly 'solutions'.

I was looking at some earlier pics of them. I had thought they had shown zero growth, before the tips developed leaves. But there was some change. The 'trunks' of the pods moved to orient them better towards the light, long before the growth tips showed change. I imagine the roots are doing very well in my yard dirt!


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