Salt

TX_Paratrooper · 07/25/2019, 12:39 PM

Another newbie question. When I was in the hobby almost 20 years ago there was basically one brand of salt. A quick perusal of my local box store and I noticed multiple brands and mixes of salt, some specific to reefs. Is there a significant difference in the products or is it not enough to justify cost differences.

Sadly Amazon has them for around $20 less shipped, than my local store.

Oldreeferman · 07/25/2019, 12:58 PM

There is a difference and everyone has their own personal view & reason for a particular brand many times due to long exp. with several brands, that being said the skinny is regular sea salt is for fish only tanks & reef sea salt has more mineral additives such as Magnesium, Calcium, trace minerals etc.... By using Reef salt you probably don't have to be concerned with dosing and testing so much until your tank gets over grown. Its still important to do water chemistry tests regularly say once a week especially if its a Reef tank just to be sure everything stays stable tho till your certain your salt IS giving you what you need. Fish only eh..........just do water changes weekly & be sure salinity is stable. Even lighting is of little concern on fish only, so depends on what your planning. You can always upgrade from fish only to a Reef tank just by changing a few items like the salt & lighting.

TX_Paratrooper · 07/25/2019, 01:49 PM

Thanks. I’m getting this tank from someone who practically gave it to me because he had to ick outbreaks, so it’s not even going to have fish for awhile. I’ll stick to the regular salt until I’m ready to put corals at a later date. Thanks!

brody83 · 07/26/2019, 01:24 AM

I'm using Fritz. Used it for years and I have no complaints.

mcgyvr · 07/26/2019, 04:31 AM

Regular IO (Instant Ocean) works just fine and is usually the cheapest.. Its used by many commercial aquatic facilities around the world..

There is little to no proof....not a significant difference,etc... justifying any cost increase beyond that..

And yes Amazon will often have the best price on it.

Thornbreaker · 07/26/2019, 07:41 AM

Yup, I use the purple box of Instant Ocean. Does just fine.

My LFS uses that Fritz and swears by it, but it is more expensive.

Uncle99 · 07/26/2019, 07:44 AM

Get what you paid for

The difference is in the mix and quantity of major and minor elements making up your salt.
You can buy the cheapest or most expensive, they all work fine, depends on what you keep
Outside of fish.

You can increase elements by buying a salt which pre-mixes to your desired levels or add those elements it doesn’t matter, but with corals, maintaining the appropriate levels is
paramount.

So I can take an OI salt and create the same water as Red Sea Pro, but must increase ALK which adds to the cost.

Some cheaper salts leave a beige scum after mixing, personally I am not much for the extra cleaning of the mixing vats.

mcgyvr · 07/26/2019, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle99

Get what you paid for

Partially true to what I'd bet is a small extent...
There is quite a bit of fanboy/brand markup as well as higher pricing dictated by lower volume/recouping development costs,etc... associated with salt mixes..

IOs lower cost is more because they make a crap ton of it due to sales volume and the fact its been around forever more than anything else..

There are certainly salt mixes that you would pay more for and wouldn't receive a "better/higher quality,etc..." product..

Many of the "reef" salt parameter levels are way higher than most would attempt to maintain without extensive higher nutrient level management..

Tastee · 08/08/2019, 02:17 AM

I use Aquaforest Reef salt which is at the higher end of the price point however I do find it extremely consistent. I also like the fact they run an ICP test on every batch and let you check the results of your batch.

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RBU1 · 08/08/2019, 07:23 AM

Tropic Marin pro reef. I wait till Petco has its 30 off savings and then I order. Cost me 76 dollars delivered.

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AlSimmons · 08/08/2019, 10:05 AM

IORC. Some salts might be higher or lower when it comes down to elements, but if your dosing then they're all pretty much the same. Kind of like shoes...

billdogg · 08/18/2019, 09:31 AM

IO/IORC for me, although I have used pretty much every brand out there over the years. If it's FO, it does not matter at all. If it's a stony coral reef tank, you will almost certainly be dosing anyway so I just don't see how it makes much difference. I buy on sale. I currently have 8 or 9 cases of RC in the basement that should last me a couple years.

07/25/2019, 12:39 PM	#1
TX_Paratrooper Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 7	Salt Another newbie question. When I was in the hobby almost 20 years ago there was basically one brand of salt. A quick perusal of my local box store and I noticed multiple brands and mixes of salt, some specific to reefs. Is there a significant difference in the products or is it not enough to justify cost differences. Sadly Amazon has them for around $20 less shipped, than my local store.

07/26/2019, 04:31 AM	#5
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	Regular IO (Instant Ocean) works just fine and is usually the cheapest.. Its used by many commercial aquatic facilities around the world.. There is little to no proof....not a significant difference,etc... justifying any cost increase beyond that.. And yes Amazon will often have the best price on it. __________________ Who me?

07/26/2019, 07:41 AM	#6
Thornbreaker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 334	Yup, I use the purple box of Instant Ocean. Does just fine. My LFS uses that Fritz and swears by it, but it is more expensive. __________________ SC Aquariums - 150 Gallon 5'x2'x2'; Trigger Elite 36 Sump; Mars Aqua Lights 150 lbs reefcleaner rock, SCA 302 Skimmer Current Stock: Foxface lo, 2 clowns, royal gramma, 2 spot bristletooth tang, fir

08/18/2019, 09:31 AM	#12
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	IO/IORC for me, although I have used pretty much every brand out there over the years. If it's FO, it does not matter at all. If it's a stony coral reef tank, you will almost certainly be dosing anyway so I just don't see how it makes much difference. I buy on sale. I currently have 8 or 9 cases of RC in the basement that should last me a couple years. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

07/25/2019, 12:58 PM	#2
Oldreeferman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: NW Indiana Valparaiso Posts: 505	There is a difference and everyone has their own personal view & reason for a particular brand many times due to long exp. with several brands, that being said the skinny is regular sea salt is for fish only tanks & reef sea salt has more mineral additives such as Magnesium, Calcium, trace minerals etc.... By using Reef salt you probably don't have to be concerned with dosing and testing so much until your tank gets over grown. Its still important to do water chemistry tests regularly say once a week especially if its a Reef tank just to be sure everything stays stable tho till your certain your salt IS giving you what you need. Fish only eh..........just do water changes weekly & be sure salinity is stable. Even lighting is of little concern on fish only, so depends on what your planning. You can always upgrade from fish only to a Reef tank just by changing a few items like the salt & lighting.

07/25/2019, 01:49 PM	#3
TX_Paratrooper Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 7	Thanks. I’m getting this tank from someone who practically gave it to me because he had to ick outbreaks, so it’s not even going to have fish for awhile. I’ll stick to the regular salt until I’m ready to put corals at a later date. Thanks!

07/26/2019, 01:24 AM	#4
brody83 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 28	I'm using Fritz. Used it for years and I have no complaints.

07/26/2019, 07:44 AM	#7
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Get what you paid for The difference is in the mix and quantity of major and minor elements making up your salt. You can buy the cheapest or most expensive, they all work fine, depends on what you keep Outside of fish. You can increase elements by buying a salt which pre-mixes to your desired levels or add those elements it doesn’t matter, but with corals, maintaining the appropriate levels is paramount. So I can take an OI salt and create the same water as Red Sea Pro, but must increase ALK which adds to the cost. Some cheaper salts leave a beige scum after mixing, personally I am not much for the extra cleaning of the mixing vats.

08/08/2019, 02:17 AM	#9
Tastee Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 277	I use Aquaforest Reef salt which is at the higher end of the price point however I do find it extremely consistent. I also like the fact they run an ICP test on every batch and let you check the results of your batch. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

08/08/2019, 07:23 AM	#10
RBU1 Moving on Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,167	Tropic Marin pro reef. I wait till Petco has its 30 off savings and then I order. Cost me 76 dollars delivered. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/08/2019, 10:05 AM	#11
AlSimmons Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: California Posts: 2,482	IORC. Some salts might be higher or lower when it comes down to elements, but if your dosing then they're all pretty much the same. Kind of like shoes...