Clam Issue - Page 3

malx · 12/05/2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeferNoob4ever

I do not mean to high jack this thread but I do have a question. I just recently got a smallish maxima clam (maybe 3") and am new to keeping them. What am I looking for here that shows your clams are dying? Is it the filter part or the mantle? Mine seems to be healthy so far it opens and closes with light and I always notice a little filter piece poking out. The mouth tends to be open when the clam is open during the day.

Sounds healthy. Wave your hand over it or cover the light, does it react? If it does it's healthy. If it does not, it does not mean it's sick.

Look under the mantle when it closes. Does the shell have a strip of white along it? That's good, it means the shell is growing.

It's a maxima so is it in a rock? Did it attach itself to the rock? That's good too it means it's healthy.

You need all of these things mostly.

Show us a pic.

ReeferNoob4ever · 12/05/2017, 03:36 PM

Ok I will take a pic. No I just put it in the substrate to get to acclimate first. It kinda moves around on its own. I will take a pic when I get home tonight.

Cheapreef · 12/05/2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeferNoob4ever

Ok I will take a pic. No I just put it in the substrate to get to acclimate first. It kinda moves around on its own. I will take a pic when I get home tonight.

You'll want to put it on a flat rock or they make clam discs, it will burrow into your glass bottom if not.

Tripod1404 · 12/05/2017, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeferNoob4ever

I do not mean to high jack this thread but I do have a question. I just recently got a smallish maxima clam (maybe 3") and am new to keeping them. What am I looking for here that shows your clams are dying? Is it the filter part or the mantle? Mine seems to be healthy so far it opens and closes with light and I always notice a little filter piece poking out. The mouth tends to be open when the clam is open during the day.

What do you mean by the filter piece poking out? Do you mean the siphon? The actual filtering apparatus is inside the clam, around the gills. The mouth (or siphon inlet) should be open but not too much (it should not be gaping).

ReeferNoob4ever · 12/05/2017, 05:30 PM

Yes the siphon inlet. The mouth is open as well. Ok I will put a rock under it, although I wouldn't mind if it found a spot in the sand and made a footing their if that's what it likes. My question really was that to tell if a clam is not doing well is it the idea that the shell is remaining closed or that the siphon is remaining closed and/or both?

Cheapreef · 12/05/2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeferNoob4ever

Yes the siphon inlet. The mouth is open as well. Ok I will put a rock under it, although I wouldn't mind if it found a spot in the sand and made a footing their if that's what it likes. My question really was that to tell if a clam is not doing well is it the idea that the shell is remaining closed or that the siphon is remaining closed and/or both?

They can break the bottom of your tank if it's thin enough that is why I mentoined it.
A clam that is not doing well will gape and or have it's mantle receding.

Like this

Or this

malx · 12/05/2017, 11:48 PM

Good information here! Let’s keep it coming. My update is that I moved my derasa to the other side of the tank. It was in a lot of flow and it has no shell growth. I’m wondering if it was getting stressed. Will know more as the days pass but so far I don’t see signs of death with this one. She may be ok. His mantle looks good. My concern is his growth and also he’s not flushing water through him.

malx · 12/06/2017, 12:38 AM

Lights went off and he’s not closing. Not good.

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Uncle99 · 12/06/2017, 12:36 PM

Mantle losing colour, slit gapping, expelling junk, closed always.....yours is fine....moderate to intense light, phyto feeding, great water, once the bysal gland is stuck down if in rocks, do not move. Enjoy! Clams are not that hard once they used to their new home.
They do like consistency.....like everything else we keep.

Uncle99 · 12/06/2017, 12:43 PM

The purplish clam above with the gapping inlet.....that of course is very bad.
It is struggling for some reason.
1 of my clams is 3 years old now, I see no growth but he is open, colourful and seems quite healthy.....clams grow very very slowly....

Uncle99 · 12/06/2017, 12:46 PM

Last one I had do this went "poof" and just died and fell apart in hours...
Never did find out why one does the others never a problem.
The slit should be open a bit and you can see the rakers but that looks too much to me.

Cancun · 12/06/2017, 03:46 PM

Hi all! Yea have not had luck with large maximas from the LFS....but I did get a decent size 5 inch ORA Deresa my favorite LFS ordered for me...if you can find a 5 inch or so ORA clam...it is worth it.

Cancun · 12/06/2017, 03:47 PM

I tried to add a pic...but it wouldn't let me...LOL

malx · 12/06/2017, 08:58 PM

I think if my Derasa is still struggling this weekend I'm going to freshwater dip him. Will keep you guys posted. Anyone else have clam issues? Let's keep it going!

malx · 12/07/2017, 01:15 AM

Alright everyone. So when I got home from dinner today and saw my Derasa I could see that he is now showing clear signs 100% he has pinched mantle disease. So, I started with the first of three freshwater dips. Boy is he mad, but it only took him about 20 minutes to partially open up after. He’s gaping a little but I’d assume that’s his way to flush out the fresh water.

Will keep everyone posted of progress.

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malx · 12/08/2017, 11:22 PM

Alright so he’s still kind of in the same state. The freshwater dip seemed to help for a few days now he looks a bit stressed again. I’m running an ICP Test and moved him In a low light area of the tank.

This part of the mantle concerns me... bottom right.

What do you guys think?

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Cheapreef · 12/08/2017, 11:26 PM

How high of a flow was he in when you took that pic. My Teardrop does that at the bottom sometimes but my tank is super high flow so I think it's just the water movement.

malx · 12/09/2017, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheapreef

How high of a flow was he in when you took that pic. My Teardrop does that at the bottom sometimes but my tank is super high flow so I think it's just the water movement.

My tank is super high flow as well. I have all SPS. I moved him to a more calm area with more consistent flow and lesser light. Maybe the less stress will help him.

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12/05/2017, 03:36 PM	#52
ReeferNoob4ever Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: NM Posts: 523	Ok I will take a pic. No I just put it in the substrate to get to acclimate first. It kinda moves around on its own. I will take a pic when I get home tonight. __________________ Get a life! Current Tank Info: 20gL mixed reef, 10g mixed reef w/nem & clown, 5g NPS & harlequin

12/05/2017, 05:30 PM	#55
ReeferNoob4ever Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: NM Posts: 523	Yes the siphon inlet. The mouth is open as well. Ok I will put a rock under it, although I wouldn't mind if it found a spot in the sand and made a footing their if that's what it likes. My question really was that to tell if a clam is not doing well is it the idea that the shell is remaining closed or that the siphon is remaining closed and/or both? __________________ Get a life! Current Tank Info: 20gL mixed reef, 10g mixed reef w/nem & clown, 5g NPS & harlequin

12/06/2017, 03:46 PM	#62
Cancun Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Saint Louis Missouri Posts: 527	Hi all! Yea have not had luck with large maximas from the LFS....but I did get a decent size 5 inch ORA Deresa my favorite LFS ordered for me...if you can find a 5 inch or so ORA clam...it is worth it. __________________ Red Sea Reefer 750 XXL...I love wrasses....have leopards....several Coris....China Wrasse, Dejardini and purple tang... Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 750 XXL

12/06/2017, 03:47 PM	#63
Cancun Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Saint Louis Missouri Posts: 527	I tried to add a pic...but it wouldn't let me...LOL __________________ Red Sea Reefer 750 XXL...I love wrasses....have leopards....several Coris....China Wrasse, Dejardini and purple tang... Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 750 XXL

12/05/2017, 11:48 PM	#57
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Good information here! Let’s keep it coming. My update is that I moved my derasa to the other side of the tank. It was in a lot of flow and it has no shell growth. I’m wondering if it was getting stressed. Will know more as the days pass but so far I don’t see signs of death with this one. She may be ok. His mantle looks good. My concern is his growth and also he’s not flushing water through him.

12/06/2017, 12:38 AM	#58
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Lights went off and he’s not closing. Not good. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/06/2017, 12:36 PM	#59
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Mantle losing colour, slit gapping, expelling junk, closed always.....yours is fine....moderate to intense light, phyto feeding, great water, once the bysal gland is stuck down if in rocks, do not move. Enjoy! Clams are not that hard once they used to their new home. They do like consistency.....like everything else we keep.

12/06/2017, 12:43 PM	#60
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	The purplish clam above with the gapping inlet.....that of course is very bad. It is struggling for some reason. 1 of my clams is 3 years old now, I see no growth but he is open, colourful and seems quite healthy.....clams grow very very slowly....

12/06/2017, 12:46 PM	#61
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Last one I had do this went "poof" and just died and fell apart in hours... Never did find out why one does the others never a problem. The slit should be open a bit and you can see the rakers but that looks too much to me.

12/06/2017, 08:58 PM	#64
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	I think if my Derasa is still struggling this weekend I'm going to freshwater dip him. Will keep you guys posted. Anyone else have clam issues? Let's keep it going!

12/07/2017, 01:15 AM	#65
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Alright everyone. So when I got home from dinner today and saw my Derasa I could see that he is now showing clear signs 100% he has pinched mantle disease. So, I started with the first of three freshwater dips. Boy is he mad, but it only took him about 20 minutes to partially open up after. He’s gaping a little but I’d assume that’s his way to flush out the fresh water. Will keep everyone posted of progress. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/08/2017, 11:22 PM	#66
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Alright so he’s still kind of in the same state. The freshwater dip seemed to help for a few days now he looks a bit stressed again. I’m running an ICP Test and moved him In a low light area of the tank. This part of the mantle concerns me... bottom right. What do you guys think? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12/08/2017, 11:26 PM	#67
Cheapreef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,076	How high of a flow was he in when you took that pic. My Teardrop does that at the bottom sometimes but my tank is super high flow so I think it's just the water movement.