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Unread 09/17/2016, 09:32 PM   #76
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Wow!! I never thought a stubby could survive in the wild (they dont swim well right?).
Thanks for the info!
My clowns started "dancing" to each other each other just last week. Hopefully ill be raising something by 2017 😂

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As long as they have a host nem and fit into hierarchy they are good.
Good luck with your pair :-)


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Unread 09/18/2016, 04:28 PM   #77
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Working on a DYI project today for the grow out tank. The tank is going under a bathroom sink where rotifer station #2 used to be. Instead of putting the tank on the floor I am making a little mini stand/pedestal for it :-)




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Unread 09/18/2016, 08:10 PM   #78
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Here are the clowns. 3 weeks old today. They've almost completely lost peach coloration and are starting to turn orange like real clowns. Video quality could be better but it's the best I could do with a dirty glass tank (mostly water splashing from water changes). Clowns are seen eating TDO pellets.



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Unread 09/18/2016, 10:40 PM   #79
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Culling clowns :/

I had to cull another one today. Since someone asked to show an example of my culls here's one for people to see. It's not particularly an exciting thing to do or talk about but it's part of the process. The clown had a pretty bad underbite and somewhat of a flat face at the same time. Video before culling and a photo after below. It's the reject clown to the left of the group. It's not as obvious as in person but it should give people an idea.





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Unread 09/19/2016, 10:38 PM   #80
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In her book Clownfishes, Joyce W. wrote that she kept 3 dozen baby clowns in a 6"x6"x6" breeder net in her DT. That sounds like an easier solution than a stand alone grow out tank. I went to Petco and bought one earlier this evening. However, it's been hard to imagine 40 or so juvenile clowns in that tight of a space. The breeder net idea has not been completely ruled out though.



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Unread 09/20/2016, 05:04 PM   #81
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When I used RGComplete for tinting, I had 0 flat faces, but did have misbars.
I have a decent number of misbar juvis so far and that's just judging by their first and only developed stripes. A rough estimate would be 10-15% of the clowns are misbars. I certainly expect that number to rise as they mature but only time will tell.


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Unread 09/21/2016, 06:19 PM   #82
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I successfully transferred the clowns to a 10 gallon grow out tank with 0 losses.




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Unread 09/21/2016, 06:32 PM   #83
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Here's a still photo.



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Unread 09/21/2016, 07:26 PM   #84
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Wow! They are coming along well! Thanks for the info on "that process". Sorry to ask you again but any close ups of the misbar fry???

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Unread 09/21/2016, 09:14 PM   #85
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Wow! They are coming along well! Thanks for the info on "that process". Sorry to ask you again but any close ups of the misbar fry???

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I'll try to take some close ups. They are still pretty small and move quickly. But I'll do my best.


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Unread 09/21/2016, 09:28 PM   #86
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Here's a video of a smaller group. One of them has a broker stripe.
It might require you to watch the video in full screen though.



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Unread 09/22/2016, 01:23 PM   #87
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Link didnt work 😞. Might be my phone though

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Unread 09/25/2016, 03:43 PM   #88
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I was out of town for a couple of days and came home to hungry clowns. The automatic feeder that I set up for them got jammed. I ran a test and the feeder didn't dispense any food. I don't exactly know when that happened but fortunately I didn't have any losses. Some deformities on several clowns have become more apparent though. It could be diet related or just a coincidence with them getting slightly older, and bigger. There are definitely 5-7 culls in there. The good news is that there's still a decent number of handsome clowns in the making. I'd really like to see if any of them develop Onyx colors like the breeding male and how long it will take for that to happen.


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Unread 09/25/2016, 04:39 PM   #89
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One clown is starting to show the middle stripe




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Unread 09/25/2016, 04:42 PM   #90
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Unread 09/27/2016, 07:30 AM   #91
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Man I love those stubby clowns. I would get rid of my Mocha pair for a pair of them, and I really do like my Mocha's.


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The grow out tank water was a little cloudy this morning. A bacterial bloom might be happening in there. The tank may need a water change just in case.


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Unread 09/29/2016, 10:23 PM   #93
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Here's a quick video update. The clowns are very good and hardy. They get fed three times a day and the tank gets vacuumed with a turkey baster every evening. The clowns are more orange in real life than in the video.



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Unread 09/29/2016, 10:52 PM   #94
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Looking good. The real test will be when the middle bar starts to grow in, and how many misbars you get.


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Looking good. The real test will be when the middle bar starts to grow in, and how many misbars you get.
I can't wait for them to fully color up. The main thing I'd like to see is how many of them will be true onyx clowns like the breeding male and how many will be regular true percula like the female :-)


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Unread 09/29/2016, 11:29 PM   #96
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I can't wait for them to fully color up. The main thing I'd like to see is how many of them will be true onyx clowns like the breeding male and how many will be regular true percula like the female :-)
I hear ya. My Picasso/Onyx babies are slowly coloring up and one already has a white dot on its face! I'm not a fan of funky looking Picassos but now that I'm raising my own I'm excited to see the results.

I'm curious to see your results as well -- some of my Onyx babies look like true percs where the black is only on the front half of body.


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Unread 09/30/2016, 05:02 AM   #97
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I hear ya. My Picasso/Onyx babies are slowly coloring up and one already has a white dot on its face! I'm not a fan of funky looking Picassos but now that I'm raising my own I'm excited to see the results.

I'm curious to see your results as well -- some of my Onyx babies look like true percs where the black is only on the front half of body.
D-Nak,
We love to see your result also. Pictures please


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I hear ya. My Picasso/Onyx babies are slowly coloring up and one already has a white dot on its face!
One of my baby clowns is developing a white spot behind the head stripe in the gill area. It probably won't develop into a Picasso clown. Instead, it may end up looking similar to a C-Quest clown that I had and hopefully just as dark :-)


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We love to see your result also. Pictures please
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Unread 09/30/2016, 01:23 PM   #99
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Oh wow. That is a really dark Onyx. Very cool. Was only the head orange?


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Healthy, beautiful fish. Definitely a part of the hobby I look forward to attempting.


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