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Unread 01/23/2015, 02:33 PM   #26
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Two a160
I just checked BRS and there are a couple different A160, Deep Ocean Blue, Ocean Blue and Sky Blue. Which one do I look choose?

If there is a big different in performance and only a 75 dollar difference per fixture, I would rather get the 2 A360 for a possible tank upgrade in the future.

Is there a big difference in performance between the 160 and 360? spectrum, controllability ect?


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Unread 01/23/2015, 03:01 PM   #27
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I just checked BRS and there are a couple different A160, Deep Ocean Blue, Ocean Blue and Sky Blue. Which one do I look choose?

If there is a big different in performance and only a 75 dollar difference per fixture, I would rather get the 2 A360 for a possible tank upgrade in the future.

Is there a big difference in performance between the 160 and 360? spectrum, controllability ect?
The A160 are tunable like the A360. The ones you are referring to are the A150 which are not tunable


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Unread 01/23/2015, 03:03 PM   #28
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Is there a big difference in performance between the 160 and 360? spectrum, controllability ect?
Twice the intensity and better spread. For the price and with future expansion in mind, the 360WE is the better choice in my opinion.


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Unread 01/23/2015, 06:59 PM   #29
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I've got a single kessil A360WE over my shallow 2foot nano. Corals are SPS mainly with a few softies. Tank runs with no sump or skimmer, just a reactor running activated carbon, and occasionally rowaphos, and regular water changes. Tank has been running for about 3-4 months. Coral colors are ok but improving as I'm finally beginning to register a little nitrate. I think my nutrients were too low to start with as my sps lost colour at first but are now improving and growing. Love the kessil to pieces






Impressive, thanks for sharing!


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Unread 01/24/2015, 05:56 AM   #30
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Hi All,

After some suggestions here if I may. I'm putting together a full blown SPS tank (nano). Tank is 36 Inch long, 12 Inch wide and 10 inch deep.

Was looking at lighting this system with 3 x a360N. Reason for going the "N" version would be:

1. Spread of light is 18 inch wide, tank is only 12 inches from front to back, so less wasted light spill.

2. Can run these at less power % and if I want to crank them up I always will have power on hand.

Thoughts would be appreciated. Would you go 3 x a360N or would the wider versions give me less shadowing?

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Unread 01/24/2015, 06:08 AM   #31
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My nano with kessil 360we with controller

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Unread 01/24/2015, 07:30 AM   #32
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Michelo, very very nice


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Unread 01/24/2015, 08:30 AM   #33
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Anyone dealing with to much shimmer? I have a 6' 220 with 3 360W and the shimmer is nice but when the surface of the water is agitated, the shimmer is very distracting. The lights are hanging 9-10 inches above the water.


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Unread 01/24/2015, 08:33 AM   #34
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Anyone dealing with to much shimmer? I have a 6' 220 with 3 360W and the shimmer is nice but when the surface of the water is agitated, the shimmer is very distracting. The lights are hanging 9-10 inches above the water.
I have 4 on a smaller tank and it looks great. Mine is 65x30x24. I had the same problem as you on my 90 gallon. Unless you either buy another kessils, or get used to it... You'll have to reduce surface agitation or add t5's. You could also add a reefbright strip to reduce it.

I have MASSIVE surface agitation. And my 4 kessils light my tank up just fine


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Unread 01/24/2015, 08:35 AM   #35
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Anyone dealing with to much shimmer? I have a 6' 220 with 3 360W and the shimmer is nice but when the surface of the water is agitated, the shimmer is very distracting. The lights are hanging 9-10 inches above the water.
Can you please post a pic of your set up ?

I have a 6' 250 and was thinking I would need 4 360w. Is 3 enough for yours as far as coverage goes?
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Unread 01/24/2015, 08:40 AM   #36
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Sorry goreef170, I have no way to post a pic. I find is plenty for my tank which is 30" front to back and 24" deep.

It would also depend on what you want to grow. My tank is mainly lps and softies.


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Unread 01/24/2015, 08:49 AM   #37
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Sorry goreef170, I have no way to post a pic. I find is plenty for my tank which is 30" front to back and 24" deep.

It would also depend on what you want to grow. My tank is mainly lps and softies.
No problem julie

Mine is a mixed reef with sps acropora's… 72 x 32 x 25 high.


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Unread 01/24/2015, 09:12 AM   #38
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Hi!
I have one kessil 360W in the middle of my tank, with two 250W MH one on each side.
I love it for the power, the adjustable color and the small space it takes. I find the shimmering a little too much but it's ok.
My tank is sps, lps and little softies. It's started in november from my old 125 gal 9 years old, which was lighted with two MH.
My tank is 96"x31" x 26" h.



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Unread 01/24/2015, 09:20 AM   #39
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I've got 8 Kessil 360WE's over my 480g display. It's 4'x8'x2' tall. The lights are controlled by my Apex. My tank is primarily soft corals with some LPS mixed in. My corals love the lights and so do I.












Gotta a question I just recently purchased 3 360 I love the controllablility of them!

I Have a 265 that is kind of getting a redo from some down time. I will probably be buying more not sure if 3 will be enough for a sps tank.

My question is is there any difference with growth or light penetration from 10k to 20k in color. I know everyone used to say 10k would be better for growth and 20 k would make the colors pop. Not sure if this is the same with LEDS?

Everyone tanks look great! Were did you get those mounts and and how high do you have the lights over the tank? Looks like you mostly have softies?


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Unread 01/24/2015, 09:22 AM   #40
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Hi!
I have one kessil 360W in the middle of my tank, with two 250W MH one on each side.
I love it for the power, the adjustable color and the small space it takes. I find the shimmering a little too much but it's ok.
My tank is sps, lps and little softies. It's started in november from my old 125 gal 9 years old, which was lighted with two MH.
My tank is 96"x31" x 26" h.
Are you going to replace the other halides with kessils?


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Unread 01/24/2015, 10:53 AM   #41
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Are you going to replace the other halides with kessils?
Maybe, in the future, but I'm affraid to have too much shimering


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Unread 01/24/2015, 11:00 AM   #42
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Maybe, in the future, but I'm affraid to have too much shimering
Supplement with just two blue+ t5s


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Unread 01/24/2015, 11:01 AM   #43
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Gotta a question I just recently purchased 3 360 I love the controllablility of them!

I Have a 265 that is kind of getting a redo from some down time. I will probably be buying more not sure if 3 will be enough for a sps tank.

My question is is there any difference with growth or light penetration from 10k to 20k in color. I know everyone used to say 10k would be better for growth and 20 k would make the colors pop. Not sure if this is the same with LEDS?

Everyone tanks look great! Were did you get those mounts and and how high do you have the lights over the tank? Looks like you mostly have softies?
My tank is primarily soft corals with some LPS. My spectrum is in the 15-17k range the way I have the color set. My corals photosynthesis occurs 420nm+ which is more to the blue spectrum than the lower kelvin range. As such, I think something between 10k and 20k will provide the best balance between growth and appearance. A little bit of white light is a nice thing from an aesthetics standpoint.

As for the light mount, you can get them from Premium Aquatics. Note that these were designed for the 350 & 360 series. They were not designed for the 160 but apparently can be modified for them with the addition of a 1/4-20 screw that is 2" in length. That screw will included in future kits and can be obtained by contacting Premium Aquatics or the mfg. The mounts are great because they give you full 360º articulation so you can aim them to direct the light where you need it most and maximize your coverage.
http://premiumaquatics.com/products/...sil-leds.html#

An alternate source (the mfg) is here although Premium is a great vendor and has them in stock too.
http://www.aquariumledmounts.com/Kes...m?categoryId=2


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Thanks to Zacktosterone, for pointing out some errors I made. (I must have been dead tired when I was looking at pricing yesterday.)

I've decide to go with 2 A160 units over my new 40ish breeder. Tank dimensions will be 36 by 18 by 18. I'm currently using AI Hydra and not happy with the look and mounting options. The kessils are going to look awesome in my living room.

Now if I can only find them in stock at a trusted store.....


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Unread 01/24/2015, 11:29 AM   #45
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I have a a160 on a spec v. I also bought the controller for it.


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Thanks to Zacktosterone, for pointing out some errors I made. (I must have been dead tired when I was looking at pricing yesterday.)

I've decide to go with 2 A160 units over my new 40ish breeder. Tank dimensions will be 36 by 18 by 18. I'm currently using AI Hydra and not happy with the look and mounting options. The kessils are going to look awesome in my living room.

Now if I can only find them in stock at a trusted store.....
Hey thanks for the call out and your welcome


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All kessil owners…. Do the Kessils grow and color up Acropora's ? With out supplementing with t/5's.


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All kessil owners…. Do the Kessils grow and color up Acropora's ? With out supplementing with t/5's.
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Thanks Zack….. Any one else ???


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Thanks Zack….. Any one else ???
yes, my acro's have grown and colored up under kessil lighting. The shimmer is amazing and the lack of heat means I can get away without a chiller in Melbourne's summer


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