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Unread 03/10/2009, 08:44 AM   #26
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The thing that concerns me most of all is that if I try this stuff and it works how do I keep fungus spores from reentering the system?


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Unread 03/10/2009, 09:19 AM   #27
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Anytime you introduce something into your system you are taking a chance on getting a nasty with it. It doesn't matter how careful you are, you can still get a nasty. Using live rock & live sand is one of my biggest concerns. Purchasing fish & corals from known hobbyists who do not have problems is one of the safest things you can do. Using quarantine tanks can help, but are not full proof. Bleaching dead rock & sand is a good idea because there is the possibility of spores, cysts & other protected mechanisms that marine life use to survive the worst habitats.

IMHO, hobbyists will continue to get nasties in there system. It is inevitable. Unfortunately little effort on the part of commercial companies is made because there is not enough profit for their efforts. This leaves the hobbyists to do the work with what tools they have. There are very few tools to be used in the control of algae, fungus, bacteria, dinoflagellates or other nasties that we have to deal with. I have to give API credit in obtaining an EPA registration for AlgaeFix Marine. This cost them some serious money to go through the process. The current label is minimal to get the registration and I hope that they will expand the label down the road.


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Unread 03/14/2009, 01:48 PM   #28
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So, did the Pimafix arrive yet?


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Unread 03/14/2009, 03:15 PM   #29
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UV sterilizer.


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Unread 03/23/2009, 10:06 AM   #30
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yes it has arrived. I haven't set up my 10 gallon "canary in the coal mine" test tank yet. I don't want to just dump this stuff in my tank.


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Unread 03/23/2009, 11:01 AM   #31
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One question I would have will any toxens be released when you treat it? Meaing will you crash a system in treating?


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Unread 03/23/2009, 12:04 PM   #32
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I don't know about that. I thought I would set up a small tank and try using the pima fix and see what happens and then go from there.

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UV sterilizer.
What effect do you think this would have?


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Unread 03/23/2009, 12:32 PM   #33
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Personally, I thought about a UV sterilizer too. Should any part of this fungus (assuming it is) be air... uh.... waterborne, maybe it could help in defeating one part of its lifecycle.

But truly, everything seems to be shooting in the dark until we get an ID, which seems very difficult on this one needless to say.

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Unread 03/23/2009, 04:46 PM   #34
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I'm so happy I found this thread. I have the same exact stuff and It has been bugging the hell out of me for months. Its all over my rocks and covers my glass with a thin layer in a weeks time. Hopefully, we can figure out what this stuff is because I need some relief. Normal algae control measures don't really work. I have 0 nitrate, 0 phosphate, and have tried cutting photoperiod, carbon dosing, etc. Nothing has helped.


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Unread 03/23/2009, 04:55 PM   #35
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Fungus does not need lighting to the best of my knowledge.

I am not sure how a fungus uptakes N&P. I would assume it can take it up directly from food similar to bacteria.

This basically leaves mechanical control ( removing as much of it as possible)

Using carbon would help IMHO.

Using UV will help but not likely to achieve 100% control.

Maybe reduced feeding in your tank may help (cut back to once every three days).

The only other option I can think of would possibly be the AlgaeFix, which can be dangerous.

I see fungus as a tough hombre in a wet environment. On land it is fairly easy to control by removing water sources and humidity.


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Unread 03/23/2009, 05:01 PM   #36
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Well, thats bad news...

I'll have to do some research on fungus. I don't there is much info on it...


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Unread 03/23/2009, 06:35 PM   #37
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yes it has arrived. I haven't set up my 10 gallon "canary in the coal mine" test tank yet. I don't want to just dump this stuff in my tank.
I have a 16oz bottle waiting in my shopping cart at MD....

I also have an Ozotech Poseidon Jr. in my shopping cart at Aquarium Specialty

Something has to kill this Crp

I hate to clean the glass, which is now covered, because I know it just spreads all over the place.


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Unread 03/23/2009, 08:02 PM   #38
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Marklu, just out of curiosity what is you PH at?


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Unread 03/23/2009, 10:54 PM   #39
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MY Ph is at 8.3-8.4.

I drip kalk and run a reverse cycle fuge so its very stable.


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Unread 04/16/2009, 07:51 PM   #40
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Any updates? I am having a problem with the same stuff as well.


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Unread 04/16/2009, 08:21 PM   #41
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The anti-fungal med (pimafix) didn't work in the test tank I set up.It looked really promising at first but the crap came back stronger than ever. I have started a ULNS system as it helped in the old tank. If that doesn't work I am going to try algaefix in the main tank and if that doesn't work I am tearing it down, bleaching the tank, ordering all new live rock and starting over. If that doesn't work I am going to learn to knit.


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Unread 04/16/2009, 08:51 PM   #42
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Even though I would never recommend chemicals for algea treatment in reef tank, Please try AlgeaFIx marine from API, it will clear up your tank in 2 - 3 weeks, I had the exact algea in my tank when I first set it up with base rock and I only used 2 applications and that took care of %70 of the exact algea in 2 weeks, and the rest dissapeared over time as coralline took over. Astrea snails also eat this stuff, but you need a lot of them, they also only eat the shorter algea.


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Unread 04/16/2009, 09:37 PM   #43
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Learning to knit, not so bad, and cheaper


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Even though I would never recommend chemicals for algea treatment in reef tank, Please try AlgeaFIx marine from API, it will clear up your tank in 2 - 3 weeks, I had the exact algea in my tank when I first set it up with base rock and I only used 2 applications and that took care of %70 of the exact algea in 2 weeks, and the rest dissapeared over time as coralline took over. Astrea snails also eat this stuff, but you need a lot of them, they also only eat the shorter algea.
Were you fighting an algae (green) or a fungi with the AlgaeFix?


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Unread 04/17/2009, 01:52 PM   #45
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I had a very tiny patch of something like that on 1 of my powerheads. But I took it out and gave it a vinegar bath and it hasn't been back.

It looks almost like a bleached algae of some type. How much GFO are you running?


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Unread 04/17/2009, 02:58 PM   #46
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It was exactly what is in these pictures on the first page, it was brownish white algea that grew for about 2 months in my tank when I first set it up with base rock. Depending on the light it was getting it was whitish in low light areas and darker brownish/green in more light areas.

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Unread 04/17/2009, 04:01 PM   #47
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Cagri,

Thanks for the reply. In the original thread noted above, I thought is might be a fungus, but Boomer who has a lot more experience in IDing these pests than I do, seems to think it may be a bacteria. Whatever it is, it has become a real problem in many hobbyist's tanks and knowing that AlgaeFix Marine will kill it is very good to know regarding future posts.


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Unread 04/17/2009, 08:40 PM   #48
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I shall start the algaefiix and see what happens.


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Unread 04/17/2009, 08:45 PM   #49
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Keep us updated CeeGee. If it works for you, I'll start it right away.
The algae is exactly as cagri described in my tank: clear/white in low light, and brownish/yellowish/greenish in highlight.


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Unread 04/17/2009, 10:10 PM   #50
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Just added the first dose of algaefix.

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