Do high phosphate and high magnesium cause corals to close?

Jakeem · 12/08/2017, 03:48 PM

Currently got a new torch coral mostly every parameter seems stable

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0
Salinity 1.025
Calcium 450
Temp 77 F

But my phosphate and magnesium and perhaps PH is off
My phosphate is currently 0.25 ppm
Magnesium 1470
And PH 8.0

My torch isnt bleached but it isnt really extending, got the coral for 3 days now

Jakeem · 12/08/2017, 03:53 PM

forgot to mention alkalinty at 10.8

RobZilla04 · 12/08/2017, 04:03 PM

Torch corals can take a long time to acclimate. Your phos is not too high IMO. Alk is on the top end but again not outside the acceptable limit. Give it more time then evaluate flow and lighting with regard to its placement in the tank.

Jakeem · 12/08/2017, 04:09 PM

Ok ill give it more time and keep and eye on changes

VoltzNSalt · 12/08/2017, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakeem

Ok ill give it more time and keep and eye on changes

You're all good my friend...

This is what I use as my definitive guide:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php

Timfish · 12/09/2017, 08:38 AM

Your levels are not what I would consider high. FWIW average PO4 level on reefs is .13 mg/l and upwelling can raise it to 2 mg/l. What's more too low of PO4 to nitrogen can cause bleaching:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate1661
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...25326X17301601

Uncle99 · 12/14/2017, 01:06 PM

Numbers are fine....
Like any coral...after a week it's X....after a month....it's great.....a year it's wow!
Just the process...

crawlerman · 12/14/2017, 03:38 PM

parameters all look fine. It's not in too much flow is it? Mine have always done better in low flow

Uncle99 · 12/14/2017, 07:55 PM

Slow Gentle waving.is the correct flow.....for this correct....polyps are delicate..

crawlerman · 12/15/2017, 02:32 PM

correct

Jakeem · 12/15/2017, 02:59 PM

Im also having trouble getting consistently flow around the tank, running two powerheads on each side of a long tank but i cant get a gentle flow for every head of the torch

Percula9 · 12/18/2017, 04:34 PM

Phosphate of .25ppm is high.Phosphate should be .03ppm.I would do a water change and see if that helps.

12/08/2017, 03:48 PM	#1
Jakeem Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 50	Do high phosphate and high magnesium cause corals to close? Currently got a new torch coral mostly every parameter seems stable Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Salinity 1.025 Calcium 450 Temp 77 F But my phosphate and magnesium and perhaps PH is off My phosphate is currently 0.25 ppm Magnesium 1470 And PH 8.0 My torch isnt bleached but it isnt really extending, got the coral for 3 days now

12/08/2017, 04:03 PM	#3
RobZilla04 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 1,857	Torch corals can take a long time to acclimate. Your phos is not too high IMO. Alk is on the top end but again not outside the acceptable limit. Give it more time then evaluate flow and lighting with regard to its placement in the tank. __________________ 90g Mixed Reef

12/09/2017, 08:38 AM	#6
Timfish Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,985	Your levels are not what I would consider high. FWIW average PO4 level on reefs is .13 mg/l and upwelling can raise it to 2 mg/l. What's more too low of PO4 to nitrogen can cause bleaching: https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate1661 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...25326X17301601 __________________ "Our crystal clear aquaria come nowhere close to the nutrient loads that swirl around natural reefs" Charles Delbeek

12/08/2017, 03:53 PM	#2
Jakeem Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 50	forgot to mention alkalinty at 10.8

12/08/2017, 04:09 PM	#4
Jakeem Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 50	Ok ill give it more time and keep and eye on changes

12/14/2017, 01:06 PM	#7
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Numbers are fine.... Like any coral...after a week it's X....after a month....it's great.....a year it's wow! Just the process...

12/14/2017, 03:38 PM	#8
crawlerman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 503	parameters all look fine. It's not in too much flow is it? Mine have always done better in low flow

12/14/2017, 07:55 PM	#9
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Slow Gentle waving.is the correct flow.....for this correct....polyps are delicate..

12/15/2017, 02:32 PM	#10
crawlerman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 503	correct

12/15/2017, 02:59 PM	#11
Jakeem Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 50	Im also having trouble getting consistently flow around the tank, running two powerheads on each side of a long tank but i cant get a gentle flow for every head of the torch

12/18/2017, 04:34 PM	#12
Percula9 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orange County CA Posts: 3,819	Phosphate of .25ppm is high.Phosphate should be .03ppm.I would do a water change and see if that helps.