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06/16/2019, 03:27 AM | #251 | |
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In my tank, the vermetid snails are likely the better food source because I have the rocks covered with little ones and I'm just starting with corals. BTW, has anyone ever tried small puffers like the figure-8 puffer (Dichotomyctere ocellatus)? Are they going after vermetid snails?
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06/16/2019, 06:24 AM | #252 |
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I tried the Toby,was good until one day he started to like
Ps and zoos and lps But where do you find the figure 8 puffer?
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06/16/2019, 12:17 PM | #253 |
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I would think Petco, PetSmart, LiveAquaria, or many LFS with freshwater department might have them.
They are usually sold as freshwater or brackish fish but they are actually saltwater fish. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
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06/17/2019, 10:47 AM | #255 | |
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Right now I certainly have far more vermetids than corals in my tank. I fear most of the vermetids in my tank are babies of the really large kind, so I want to fight them while they are still small. I actually spent a good deal of time to go over the rocks and snap all the large ones off but the small ones were just too many and it too secluded spaces.
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06/17/2019, 12:36 PM | #256 |
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I have seen a few different type of Vermetid snails so I wonder if bumblebee snails only can eat certain types or size? I have seen Vermetid snails with very small tubes while others are very large.
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Good luck with all of this..These things are terrible. I had to nuke a tank because of all of them. Was so tired of them being EVERYWHERE!
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06/25/2019, 04:31 PM | #259 |
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i think i might give the 8line puffer a go. rock and tank jist sitting there in my basement
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It seems they are affected by a pathogen that kills them very targeted. Unfortunately it's nothing you could easily get. I've employed a few bumble bee snails for the little ones and plan on training a couple of figure 8 puffers to go after the large ones.
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07/19/2019, 12:56 PM | #261 | |
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Just waiting on amquel delivery next week, then the nuking will begin, moving my corals this weekend to QT tank along with shrimp will post picks on progress as this is the only way I see this vermin being eliminated. |
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07/22/2019, 04:41 PM | #262 |
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Okay i only skimmed the thread but has the use of lasers been talked about? I have a 445nm 5mw cheap ebay laser i have successfully used to kill many many vermetid's.
It obviously does not wipe out the entire population but keeps in check and also keeps them from spreading when you cook them with the laser. For a while i had several dozen and after using the laser have not seen any in months but i do expect to need to zap more in the future. |
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07/25/2019, 09:37 AM | #266 | |
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how do the fish cope in black out situation for so long? I've read about CP not being good for certain types of fish - Hippo's and Anthias / 6 line rasses etc.. of course all the types I have in my display!!! great thread, planning to do a dose of ICk shield powder but worried it won't work? |
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07/25/2019, 03:07 PM | #267 |
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Bacteria will degrade CP (and many other medications) rather quickly as this study on Praziquantel (the active ingredient of PraziPro) shows: Praziquantel degradation in marine aquarium water
Similar observations have been made with CP, so its use in an established tank is rather questionable.
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I've been thinking about this for a while.
This is a good read. https://academic.oup.com/mollus/arti.../2/133/1067836 Then I started looking at various molluscicides. One jumps out at me, Ferric sodium EDTA. It's a type of chelated iron, and while highly toxic to arthropods, that may be a price we have to pay to win the war. I am wondering if it's function in a saltwater environment is such that the concentrations needed to kill the vermatids is low enough that fish and coral would be unharmed. It reacts with the copper based compound in the blood of molluscs. Another approach I was considering... In the study above, it shows that the brooding females lay egg sacks that swell and intake water. I'm wondering if a combination of manual removal and low doses of iron can halt reproduction of vermatids all together and then manual removal over time can rid them.
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If I had opportunity to use chemical I would have done, but because I don't have access to it I pulled the plug, and bleached the hell of everything
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I have been dosing zeovit coral snow for about 3 weeks now and am seeing a dramatic impact, time will tell.
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01/24/2020, 06:53 AM | #272 |
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I think that’s a mater of perspective. In a really bad way if you are a vermetid snail.
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01/24/2020, 06:54 AM | #273 |
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For me it went out of control ,I did try everything but the chemical,
Check these pictures https://flic.kr/s/aHsmJaQC76
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I don't even really notice mine anymore so I don't worry about them. Occasionally, a coral will encrust over it so ill notice the irregular growth.
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