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Old 05/30/2019, 12:18 PM   #526
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I got a seen like Gen1 mini200 with the Red Dragon Mini Skimmer pump 1000. Spec for air intake only draw 1000l/h. Is it right? See picture.
Yes but don't get caught up in the air intake numbers since that skimmer was designed to be used and balanced around that pump. Air intake numbers are more for bragging rights as it's all about the fineness of the bubbles and balance inside the skimmer. Also, the numbers are conservatively rated. Air draw is likely closer to 1200l/hr.


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Old 05/30/2019, 01:54 PM   #527
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Do you still carry that pump incase I need to replace it? If not, what's the replacement pump model? The skimmer was purchase around 9 year ago but the pump only run for about 2.5-3years.


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Old 05/30/2019, 02:07 PM   #528
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Do you still carry that pump incase I need to replace it? If not, what's the replacement pump model? The skimmer was purchase around 9 year ago but the pump only run for about 2.5-3years.
This is the replacement motorblock which is typically in stock in our Ft. Myers warehouse. When properly maintained, those pumps will last indefinitely. If something is going to fail, itís typically the block and usually due to a lack of improper maintenance.
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Old 07/14/2019, 02:26 AM   #529
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Hi, please help with some tips. I've read this whole thread and followed all advice but still having trouble.mI have a double cone 150 that I picked up about 3 w-4 weeks ago used but in awesome condition. Tank and sump is 300 litres.
Now I cannot get this thing tuned no matter how hards I try.
I have it in 17cm depth and have the volute one 4.5 turns and wedge pipe fully opened.
After a lot of heartache I thought I finally had it and was skimming nicely (dark tea coloured skim mate). Did a water change this morning roughly 10%, turned the skimmer back on and it's been overflowing for the rest of the day.
I really want to keep this skimmer but have had nothing but trouble with it.
Any advice would be so greatly appreciated.


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Old 07/14/2019, 03:33 AM   #530
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You’re water change could have impacted the surface tension resulting in the overflowing condition. Depending on the salt mix, how well it was mixed and other factors, your new salt water could be causing the issue. Also, if you bought this skimmer used, make sure the venturi port on the nozzle where the air hose connects ins’t clogged with dried salt.

The other thing that can impact it is if you still have the skimmer tuned improblerly. While it’s overflowing, my best advice would be to make nozzle adjustments to get the overflow condition to stop. This may require going further out on the nozzle or more in depending on the root cause of the overflow. My guess is that once you get this issue tuned out via more nozzle adjustments, it should be more stable going forward though you might have to close the wedge pipe some to get it to produce depending on your fish load. Also keep in mind that a tiny fraction of a turn on the nozzle can make a big difference so make small adjustments and use rubber gloves when making those adjustments so that the oils in your skin don’t impact the water and cause the skimmer to go flat forcing you to wait to see the results of the adjustment.


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Old 07/14/2019, 03:40 AM   #531
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Thankyou so much for the reply.
I have tried turning the volute out to 5 turns, 5.5 turns and even 6 turns still to no avail. Everything was cleaned spotlessly before I put it in the tank. It's been overflowing literally all day, I thought it might settle after a couple of hours, but nope, it's literally like a waterfall
Should I just leave it overflowing overnight to see if it settles?


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Old 07/14/2019, 03:44 AM   #532
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Thankyou so much for the reply.
I have tried turning the volute out to 5 turns, 5.5 turns and even 6 turns still to no avail. Everything was cleaned spotlessly before I put it in the tank. It's been overflowing literally all day, I thought it might settle after a couple of hours, but nope, it's literally like a waterfall
Should I just leave it overflowing overnight to see if it settles?
You could lower the sump level another CM or raise the skimmer by placing something under it. That should help. If it’s something in the water, short of skimming it out by collecting the overflow, that’s about all you can do. Waiting it out might help but I’d adjust the sump level. You might see what happens if you turn the nozzle inwards but I’d go back to your original setting that was working and lower the sump level or raise the skimmer a CM or 2 as that will make it less sensitive and more forgiving to changes in the water.


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Old 07/14/2019, 04:19 AM   #533
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Thankyou again!
I have turned it off for now and will try raising it 2 cm tomorrow and will let you know how it goes, if that doesn't help I might just have to go back to my old skimmer, which would be devastating as I have dreamt of owning Bubble king for years. Is it possible that the skimmer is just over sized for my tank and stock level.


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Old 07/14/2019, 08:25 AM   #534
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Thankyou again!
I have turned it off for now and will try raising it 2 cm tomorrow and will let you know how it goes, if that doesn't help I might just have to go back to my old skimmer, which would be devastating as I have dreamt of owning Bubble king for years. Is it possible that the skimmer is just over sized for my tank and stock level.
While it might be on the large side, that wouldnít explain the overflow. The overflowing is a sign of the skimmer not being tuned or setup properly. You just need to keep working with it to fine tune this thing for your setup. The lowered sump depth will help a lot.


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Old 07/15/2019, 01:51 AM   #535
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Hi,
I raised the skimmer a couple of cm's and still overflowing so raised again. It is now in literally 14cm depth and still overflowing like crazy. Volute opened 4.5 turns and wedge pipe fully open.
I have the drain on the collection cup open so the overflow id draining back into sump.
I've tried tuning it by turning the volute and still nothing
I really wanted to love this skimmer!!
I'll love it and let it drain a couple of hours but I really think I've reached my limit


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Old 07/15/2019, 01:57 AM   #536
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Well I've let it let run for literally 3.5 hrs and it still hasn't settled, so don't know what's left to do?


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Old 07/15/2019, 07:14 AM   #538
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Well I've let it let run for literally 3.5 hrs and it still hasn't settled, so don't know what's left to do?
Is it possible that something got into the skimmer pump when when you shut it off? Maybe a snail? The only thing you can do besides inspecting the pump would be to turn the nozzle way inwards and see what it does. Go all the way to 1 - 1.5 turns out from fully closed and see if that helps. Then turn it further outwards than 4.5-5 turns out and see what it does. There should be some point in the nozzle adjustment between fully closed and fully out that makes it subside. Having said that, I suspect something in your new salt mix likely caused this and if you’re not removing and simply letting it overflow back into the sump, you are not going to remove it. And if there is any restriction in the air intake whether it’s the silicone air hose being kinked or the venturi port on the pump being clogged or something in the needle wheel, you will get overflows like you are experiencing. And be 100% certain that the wedge is fully open. You can raise wedge pipe up out of the fitting and see where the angled piece of pipe would be blocking the effluent/exit from the skimmer.


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Hi, and once again thankyou so much for taking the time to reply and offer advice.
So I pulled everything apart and everything was spotless, so I thought one last effort I would just let it run. I closed off the drain and just collected what was overflowing and ended up being about 3-4 litres. which was easy to replace and it finally settled down. I will run it now till the weekend when I will do another water change and see if it happens again. I just find it funny that I have been using this same salt for the 3-4 months.
Any way we are back on track. I might even lower it back another 2 cm. And hoping I can really fall in love with this skimmer!.


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Hi, and once again thankyou so much for taking the time to reply and offer advice.
So I pulled everything apart and everything was spotless, so I thought one last effort I would just let it run. I closed off the drain and just collected what was overflowing and ended up being about 3-4 litres. which was easy to replace and it finally settled down. I will run it now till the weekend when I will do another water change and see if it happens again. I just find it funny that I have been using this same salt for the 3-4 months.
Any way we are back on track. I might even lower it back another 2 cm. And hoping I can really fall in love with this skimmer!.
It likely was something in your salt or maybe it wasn’t mixed well enough or there was some precipitation due to the mix separating in the bag if you didn’t use the whole bag of salt when you mixed your new salt water. When you ran it and collected the overflow, you would be exporting whatever was in the water causing it to go nuts. This is why I said you’re not removing anything if you’re just letting it overflow. Glad to hear it’s settling down. Not sure you need to go lower on the sump level. I’d let it run and see how it performs.


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I can't thank you enough for helping me through this! It was very kind of you.
Hopefully I will not have to post anymore


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I can't thank you enough for helping me through this! It was very kind of you.
Hopefully I will not have to post anymore
Very very glad to help!


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Sorry if it's been asked already but is there a noticeable improvement in performance by using one of the aqua driver heads? Specifically with a DC 180?


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Sorry if it's been asked already but is there a noticeable improvement in performance by using one of the aqua driver heads? Specifically with a DC 180?
It reduces the maintenance on the skimmer since you rarely need to remove the collection cup (I only remove mine every several months) and it also improves consistency since the grime in the neck never builds up but you still maintain the slime coating. The grime as it builds up, impacts how the foam rises. It creates friction causing some of the bubbles to burst while it also reduces the diameter of the neck causing the skimmer to skim wetter as it builds up. So maintaining a virtually grime free neck helps keep the skimmer more consistent and the slime coating which is part of the break-in process keeps the foam rising up the neck smoothly.


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Thanks for the response! I really want to try out the cleaning head as well as the dream boxes.


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Hey people..

I have a bubble king mini 200... for some reason this skimmer is giving out crap loads of micro bubbles.. any tips to fix this please?


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I have a bubble king mini 200... for some reason this skimmer is giving out crap loads of micro bubbles.. any tips to fix this please?
What model pump does it have? If it’s the RD3, what speed do you have the pump set to? How long has it been running in the system? How many fish are in the system? If the fish count is really low relative to the size of the skimmer (and this is a fairly big skimmer), you won’t have enough dissolved organics (proteins) to be making as good of foam as would be ideal and instead of all the bubbles sticking together into chains that form foam and rise to the surface, some of lots of bubbles will end up escaping the skimmer through the effluent pipe. This phenomenon is common when the skimmer is oversized relative to the load.


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What model pump does it have? If itís the RD3, what speed do you have the pump set to? How long has it been running in the system? How many fish are in the system? If the fish count is really low relative to the size of the skimmer (and this is a fairly big skimmer), you wonít have enough dissolved organics (proteins) to be making as good of foam as would be ideal and instead of all the bubbles sticking together into chains that form foam and rise to the surface, some of lots of bubbles will end up escaping the skimmer through the effluent pipe. This phenomenon is common when the skimmer is oversized relative to the load.
Hi,

Apologies for the late response I have been away.

Itís the Rd3 model vs13.

Yes I donít have a lot of fish at the moment only like 5 as this is a new tank. The skimmer has been running for nearly 3 months now and it does produce skimmate into the cup. I have it sitting on a egg crate around 21cm deep. The pump is set at 28w.

literally my display tank is covered with micro bubbles and I know itís from the skimmer because I can see it coming out of the pipe (the long pipe to control the water level inside the skimmer) and when I switch the skimmer off within 5 mins the tank looks clearer.

Surely it shouldnít matter if the skimmer is oversized? A lot of people with other skimmers have it 5 times bigger than the tank and donít have this issue.

Itís really frustrating to see micro bubbles all in the tank


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Hi,

Apologies for the late response I have been away.

It’s the Rd3 model vs13.

Yes I don’t have a lot of fish at the moment only like 5 as this is a new tank. The skimmer has been running for nearly 3 months now and it does produce skimmate into the cup. I have it sitting on a egg crate around 21cm deep. The pump is set at 28w.

literally my display tank is covered with micro bubbles and I know it’s from the skimmer because I can see it coming out of the pipe (the long pipe to control the water level inside the skimmer) and when I switch the skimmer off within 5 mins the tank looks clearer.

Surely it shouldn’t matter if the skimmer is oversized? A lot of people with other skimmers have it 5 times bigger than the tank and don’t have this issue.

It’s really frustrating to see micro bubbles all in the tank
In a case with only 5 fish, that skimmer is like 10x oversized. What people don’t realize is that the proteins in the water from the dissolved organics created by the fish are what allow the bubbles to stick together in chains that create the foam. That sticking together helps the bubbles rise to the surface. In the absence of enough dissolved organics (proteins), you end up with bubbles that blast around the inside of the skimmer. Many of which won’t rise to the surface and end up coming out of the effluent pipe like you are experiencing and with only 5 fish in there, you might as well have no fish in there since you just don’t have much in the way of dissolved organics for that size skimmer. I would reduce the pumps speed some and close the wedge pipe more. That should help reduce the amount of micro bubbles. The other thing you could do is install a bubble trap in your sump or add some foam around (not on) the return pump so as to create a wall around it to prevent micro bubbles from getting sucked in.


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In a case with only 5 fish, that skimmer is like 10x oversized. What people donít realize is that the proteins in the water from the dissolved organics created by the fish are what allow the bubbles to stick together in chains that create the foam. That sticking together helps the bubbles rise to the surface. In the absence of enough dissolved organics (proteins), you end up with bubbles that blast around the inside of the skimmer. Many of which wonít rise to the surface and end up coming out of the effluent pipe like you are experiencing and with only 5 fish in there, you might as well have no fish in there since you just donít have much in the way of dissolved organics for that size skimmer. I would reduce the pumps speed some and close the wedge pipe more. That should help reduce the amount of micro bubbles. The other thing you could do is install a bubble trap in your sump or add some foam around (not on) the return pump so as to create a wall around it to prevent micro bubbles from getting sucked in.
Anyone who has the same issue as me with micro bubbles and with a low bio load... ignore the above advice it is incorrect.

After getting a lot of advice from other forums and lfs, I was told it doesnít matter if the skimmer is oversized... you shouldnít get Microbubbles...


I have 3 fish currently in my tank with a over sized skimmer and I am no longer getting Microbubbles. I took everything apart and took apart the pump and cleaned it out and finally I no longer have Microbubbles leaking into the tank

I think cleaning the pump solved the problem. Yes the skimmer is foaming but obviously not a big amount due to the low bioload but it is working


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