Return pump?

mx51 · 06/29/2020, 10:52 PM

I have a JBJ nano-cube 28g I’m going to set up while I buy all new equipment for my 75 gallon tank . My question is how many times per hour should your return pump flip your volume of water? I am looking at the eheim compaction 600 for the nano cube but for this set up would require 2 of them. They push 159 GPH, or if anyone has a better recommendation I would appreciate it. Thank you for any advice

billdogg · 06/30/2020, 03:46 PM

If possible, I'd use whatever return pump you plan on for the 75 with a ball or gate valve in the line to reduce flow.

I prefer fairly low flow through my sump - 10x or less. IMHO, more than that is just wasted energy. For in tank flow you and your tank will be much better served using in-tank power heads/wavemakers/gyres

mx51 · 06/30/2020, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by billdogg

If possible, I'd use whatever return pump you plan on for the 75 with a ball or gate valve in the line to reduce flow.

I prefer fairly low flow through my sump - 10x or less. IMHO, more than that is just wasted energy. For in tank flow you and your tank will be much better served using in-tank power heads/wavemakers/gyres

I agree with the power heads I’m going to put 2 mp10’s in the 28g tank. When I set the 75 gallon tank up it will have ball valves on everything. I was just wondering about return pumps for the 28g tank as it has the section in the back of the tank that serves as a sump. I’m just trying to figure out what to order for it as it is set up for dual return pumps and I will have the wave makers in the DT as well

billdogg · 06/30/2020, 05:19 PM

I'm not too familiar with AIO's but I would think something like a Maxijet 900 or even a sicce 1.0 (for a little more $$) would give you enough flow without breaking the bank.

mx51 · 06/30/2020, 07:28 PM

Thank you for your help it looks like the sicce 1.0 will. It even puts out about the same GPH as the stock pumps that come with the tank. I bought the tank used from the LFS about 4 years ago and it didn’t come with pumps

Sk8r · 07/01/2020, 11:01 AM

Sicce and Eheim and Tunze are my go-to brands for equipment: you can get cheaper, but they often fail, and by the time you replace them, you'll spend that again, and again... Heater? Go for the best (Eheim)---for safety for tank and house.

mx51 · 07/01/2020, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

Sicce and Eheim and Tunze are my go-to brands for equipment: you can get cheaper, but they often fail, and by the time you replace them, you'll spend that again, and again... Heater? Go for the best (Eheim)---for safety for tank and house.

Thank you Sk8r I am not looking for cheap, I want quality equipment. I have been out of the hobby for a couple years and now jumping back in. In my experience before cheap equipment only caused headaches later. But I am new to a tank of the size and the I guess you would call it a sump in the back of the tank. So I am trying to figure everything out before just jumping in and ordering equipment before talking to people. I that makes sense, LOL

Sk8r · 07/01/2020, 12:35 PM

You'll do fine.

06/29/2020, 10:52 PM	#1
mx51 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Great Falls,MT Posts: 344	Return pump? I have a JBJ nano-cube 28g I’m going to set up while I buy all new equipment for my 75 gallon tank . My question is how many times per hour should your return pump flip your volume of water? I am looking at the eheim compaction 600 for the nano cube but for this set up would require 2 of them. They push 159 GPH, or if anyone has a better recommendation I would appreciate it. Thank you for any advice

06/30/2020, 03:46 PM	#2
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	If possible, I'd use whatever return pump you plan on for the 75 with a ball or gate valve in the line to reduce flow. I prefer fairly low flow through my sump - 10x or less. IMHO, more than that is just wasted energy. For in tank flow you and your tank will be much better served using in-tank power heads/wavemakers/gyres __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

06/30/2020, 05:19 PM	#4
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	I'm not too familiar with AIO's but I would think something like a Maxijet 900 or even a sicce 1.0 (for a little more $$) would give you enough flow without breaking the bank. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

07/01/2020, 11:01 AM	#6
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Sicce and Eheim and Tunze are my go-to brands for equipment: you can get cheaper, but they often fail, and by the time you replace them, you'll spend that again, and again... Heater? Go for the best (Eheim)---for safety for tank and house. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/01/2020, 12:35 PM	#8
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	You'll do fine. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

06/30/2020, 07:28 PM	#5
mx51 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Great Falls,MT Posts: 344	Thank you for your help it looks like the sicce 1.0 will. It even puts out about the same GPH as the stock pumps that come with the tank. I bought the tank used from the LFS about 4 years ago and it didn’t come with pumps