Kill palys but keep the rock

gareth.hubbarde · 08/03/2020, 11:12 AM

I have a rock full of ugly palys. Is there a way I can clear the rock of them so that I can put it back in and populate with nicer zoas?

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freeswimmingfis · 08/03/2020, 11:16 AM

You could inject each with Kalk paste?

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Sk8r · 08/03/2020, 11:30 AM

Some are poisonous. Remove the rock and treat it separately. Discard all used water, wear gloves, mask, goggles (getting this in the eyes or mouth or lungs is like hospital stuff, possible eye damage) and frankly I'd just let that rock sit in the sun for a good long while and even THEN take all precautions with getting the residue off it: a strong hose would be the best first step. Read our sticky-post (up top of this section) on toxins. Serious, serious stuff, palys.

Sk8r · 08/03/2020, 11:32 AM

Frankly, an even better solution: taking all precautions, take it back to your lfs in a bag and give it to them or trade it for a conditioned rock if you can swing it.

gareth.hubbarde · 08/03/2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

Frankly, an even better solution: taking all precautions, take it back to your lfs in a bag and give it to them or trade it for a conditioned rock if you can swing it.

They won't take it. Lol
I might just throw the rock in the bin and look to get a rock with nice zoas on.

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Vinny Kreyling · 08/03/2020, 05:29 PM

Put it in a SEALED bag marked please.

Oldreeferman · 08/03/2020, 06:24 PM

Ive read a lot articles (back in my freaking out over palytoxin days) that state only bleach will neutralize the palytoxins and is what is used when doing a detox accident. If memory serves me the ratio was 20% min bleach and 80% water. If it was me id use a bit more probably a 30/70 blend & let it sit in a safe area outside for several days with a tight lid then a cold water rinse off & a soak in plain water for a while until all bleach odor is gone if the rock is really that important or unusual in shape and worth the trouble and possible sickness. If it was in my tank which will never ever happen id put it very carefully in a5 gal. bucket with above stated mix & a screw on lid, let it sit a few days then pour out the water, re-seal & toss it ............ if no one wants that nightmare.

gareth.hubbarde · 08/04/2020, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldreeferman

Ive read a lot articles (back in my freaking out over palytoxin days) that state only bleach will neutralize the palytoxins and is what is used when doing a detox accident. If memory serves me the ratio was 20% min bleach and 80% water. If it was me id use a bit more probably a 30/70 blend & let it sit in a safe area outside for several days with a tight lid then a cold water rinse off & a soak in plain water for a while until all bleach odor is gone if the rock is really that important or unusual in shape and worth the trouble and possible sickness. If it was in my tank which will never ever happen id put it very carefully in a5 gal. bucket with above stated mix & a screw on lid, let it sit a few days then pour out the water, re-seal & toss it ............ if no one wants that nightmare.

Rock not that important, think its going on the bin.

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08/03/2020, 11:12 AM	#1
gareth.hubbarde Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 719	Kill palys but keep the rock I have a rock full of ugly palys. Is there a way I can clear the rock of them so that I can put it back in and populate with nicer zoas? Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

08/03/2020, 11:16 AM	#2
freeswimmingfis Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Katy Tx Posts: 622	You could inject each with Kalk paste? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 60x24x24, 2-AI Hydra 26HD, PM R36+ sump, WB HY-5000 pump, 2 MP40 WES, BRS Duel reactor, LifeReef Skimmer, Red Sea 50 Ozone

08/03/2020, 11:30 AM	#3
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Some are poisonous. Remove the rock and treat it separately. Discard all used water, wear gloves, mask, goggles (getting this in the eyes or mouth or lungs is like hospital stuff, possible eye damage) and frankly I'd just let that rock sit in the sun for a good long while and even THEN take all precautions with getting the residue off it: a strong hose would be the best first step. Read our sticky-post (up top of this section) on toxins. Serious, serious stuff, palys. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

08/03/2020, 11:32 AM	#4
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Frankly, an even better solution: taking all precautions, take it back to your lfs in a bag and give it to them or trade it for a conditioned rock if you can swing it. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

08/03/2020, 05:29 PM	#6
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	Put it in a SEALED bag marked please. __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

08/03/2020, 06:24 PM	#7
Oldreeferman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: NW Indiana Valparaiso Posts: 505	Ive read a lot articles (back in my freaking out over palytoxin days) that state only bleach will neutralize the palytoxins and is what is used when doing a detox accident. If memory serves me the ratio was 20% min bleach and 80% water. If it was me id use a bit more probably a 30/70 blend & let it sit in a safe area outside for several days with a tight lid then a cold water rinse off & a soak in plain water for a while until all bleach odor is gone if the rock is really that important or unusual in shape and worth the trouble and possible sickness. If it was in my tank which will never ever happen id put it very carefully in a5 gal. bucket with above stated mix & a screw on lid, let it sit a few days then pour out the water, re-seal & toss it ............ if no one wants that nightmare. __________________ Montipora Digitas, Cyphastrea, Blastos, different Leptoseris, Green Stylo, GSP, gorgonions, Ricordea mushrooms, psammocoras, Birdsnest coral, Clownfish, Watchman goby, Royal gamma. Current Tank Info: Nano Reef tank