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Old 12/03/2018, 06:41 PM   #1
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What factors effect snails to die??

Considering temp 79-80 and no hermit crabs and everything else thriving?

Ive gotten 10 snails and 1 only has survived and they die within days...

WHat the problem is? can it be the 80 temp? maybe pests im not aware of?


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Old 12/03/2018, 07:10 PM   #2
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Salinity?
Quality of supply?
80f does not cause snails to die but your temp could be off I suppose..


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Old 12/03/2018, 08:11 PM   #3
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Some species of snails like Margarite snails come from cooler waters and don't live too long, maybe a month or so in warmer waters like 78-80. What was the type of snails you lost?


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Old 12/04/2018, 12:23 AM   #4
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Some species of snails like Margarite snails come from cooler waters and don't live too long, maybe a month or so in warmer waters like 78-80. What was the type of snails you lost?
trocuhus and turbo snails.. whats weird is my nassarius snails havent died


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Old 12/04/2018, 12:42 AM   #5
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Are you drip acclimating them?


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Are you drip acclimating them?
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Old 12/04/2018, 05:30 AM   #7
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yep

Why? they are snails, unless your QTing them just float bag to match temp, dump in. Salinity with inverts should always be very close to 1.026. They are not like fish where they can be kept down to 1.019 and drip acclimating will slowly bring the salinity up.



There is a sticky up at the top of this forum about death in bags. One should read up on it.


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Old 12/04/2018, 12:18 PM   #8
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Do you know your magnesium level? High Mg can affect invertibrates, especially snails in my experience, negatively.


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Do you know your magnesium level? High Mg can affect invertibrates, especially snails in my experience, negatively.
I don't since I only have a couple corals in a 90 i just rely on my weekly 10% water changes to balance out calc/alk/mag


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Old 12/04/2018, 08:09 PM   #10
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Why? they are snails, unless your QTing them just float bag to match temp, dump in. Salinity with inverts should always be very close to 1.026. They are not like fish where they can be kept down to 1.019 and drip acclimating will slowly bring the salinity up.
IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

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IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

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Old 12/05/2018, 03:42 PM   #12
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IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

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^^^THIS, x 1000^^^


I "acclimate" mine the same way and my losses have dropped dramatically since I started do it this way. Check the salinity in the bags they come in and match it as closely as possible.


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Old 12/06/2018, 08:30 AM   #13
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IME, snails are VERY susceptible to osmotic shock and will die if not allowed to acclimate slowly in water, or acclimate more quickly out of water (by this, I mean I generally remove the snails from the bag and place them on a plate for a few minutes(this allows them to expel the water in their shell). Then, I allow them to attach to the tank glass just above the water line and enter the water on their own. This method has greatly reduced death in newly introduced snails).

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Great information!! I'm just ordered a CUC from Reefcleaners.org. I will ensure to acclimate my snails using this method.

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Reefcleaners gives good acclimation advice as well. I like what was mentioned above too. If salinity is matched, follow the above advice. The more they drip acclimate, the more ammonia that can build and more stress on the snails.


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Old 12/06/2018, 09:49 PM   #15
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Considering temp 79-80 and no hermit crabs and everything else thriving?

Ive gotten 10 snails and 1 only has survived and they die within days...

WHat the problem is? can it be the 80 temp? maybe pests im not aware of?
How long has the tank been up? Just a shot in the dark but do they have sufficient food supply?


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Old 12/07/2018, 01:22 PM   #16
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How long has the tank been up? Just a shot in the dark but do they have sufficient food supply?
6 months and there is GHA


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