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[amphibian]

i had a similar issue and raised it out of the water to a level of 200mm and that worked for me .

[Klaus Jansen]

Hi GQuinn,

sorry, my english lenguage is horrible...

Okay, i look your second picture and i see very, very big bubbles in the foampipe. Thats not normal,.... i think your problem is more a chemical, as a mechanical problem. The RD-Motorblocks runing all the same speed, It´s impossible for runing with lower or higher speed. Synchrom Motorblocks are running very stable in her speed.
Maybe heavy up the skimmer one or two inches ?
We sell a lot of the DC-150 models and never heard about this problem. If the nozzle is surging, please opening the nozzle one or two turns. Surging has to do with to less waterintake.
Hope it helps.....

best regards .. Klaus

Ps.. next month we have a new employeer, where speak perfect your lenguage. He want make customerservice without my lenguagebarrier ;-)

[Klaus Jansen]

found this in youtube ... BK-Double Cones + RD3 Speedy Pumps in USA

best regards ... Klaus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOc7QXqNDqI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSFDe...ature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjellPyaT2Q

[GQuinn]

Originally Posted by Klaus Jansen D

Hi GQuinn,

sorry, my english lenguage is horrible...

Okay, i look your second picture and i see very, very big bubbles in the foampipe. Thats not normal,.... i think your problem is more a chemical, as a mechanical problem. The RD-Motorblocks runing all the same speed, It´s impossible for runing with lower or higher speed. Synchrom Motorblocks are running very stable in her speed.
Maybe heavy up the skimmer one or two inches ?
We sell a lot of the DC-150 models and never heard about this problem. If the nozzle is surging, please opening the nozzle one or two turns. Surging has to do with to less waterintake.
Hope it helps.....



best regards .. Klaus

Ps.. next month we have a new employeer, where speak perfect your lenguage. He want make customerservice without my lenguagebarrier ;-)

I need to verify. When you say heavy up the skimmer, do you mean, raise it?

[Jay Ellul]

Is there an owners thread on here somewhere?

[powder_blue]

So I've had mine now for a week and I'm very pleased so far. I have it in 7in of water and have had the nozzle at 4 turns out. I have the water/air separation line about 2 in below where the cup screws on to the body and I am getting fairly dark tea colored skimmate. I'm not sure I completely understand how to dial the skimmer in as I have only had skimmers with one control which was just water level. It seems everyone says to run the water/air line just below where the neck screws onto the body but this doesn't seem possible with my skimmer at 4 turns out. Should I reduce the number of turns out and raise the water with the wedgepipe to skim a bit more dry?

[Laser Lammons]

looking for help in finding a spray nozzle type neck cleaner for my BK 400 int
If anyone knows whom to contact I would be greatly appreciative.

[Premiumaq]

Contact BK directly at their USA location: http://royalexclusiv.com/

[Mark SF]

Originally Posted by GQuinn

Pump has been running perfectly up till yesterday. The skimmer overflowed yesterday and today and the pump sounds like it is not running consistent (the sound of the air draw increases and decreases) I took the pump apart and everything looks o'k. Nozzle is four turns out, if I decrease it to three the pulsing is more noticeable. What would be causing this. Nothing different in the tank. I can't have this overflowing daily.

GQuinn,

Did you ever get around to having this resolved?

I am having the exact same issue, I JUST installed the skimmer after having a skimmer stand built by Melves Reef. The pump is surging...

If I remove the white volute looking thing that screws into the inlet of the pump, the pump seems to function correctly but it is way too much flow...

The skimmer is in exactly 7" of water depth.

Someone, anyone!

-Mark

[powder_blue]

I just went through this. It was something in my water. I let the skimmer run out about 10 gallons of water and it stopped. Mine is at 7" with 4 turns out and runs fine. Take your silencer apart and make sure the foam didn't get wet when it overflowed (mine did and cause problematic airflow)

[powder_blue]

If it's a brand new skimmer you are going to have to give it a week or two of running wide open with the drain plug open. Make sure your wedge pipe is fully open and then once you get a nice foam head start to close it to make TINY adjustments. It will settle down and operate perfectly

[GQuinn]

Originally Posted by Mark SF

GQuinn,

Did you ever get around to having this resolved?

I am having the exact same issue, I JUST installed the skimmer after having a skimmer stand built by Melves Reef. The pump is surging...

If I remove the white volute looking thing that screws into the inlet of the pump, the pump seems to function correctly but it is way too much flow...

The skimmer is in exactly 7" of water depth.

Someone, anyone!

-Mark

I wished I could help you, but I am still having issues with this skimmer. Out of frustration and a lack of help from Royal Exclusiv, I quit using this skimmer after 3 months. A couple of months ago I decided to retry using it. With some help from Slief we decided to raise the skimmer to 6 3/4 inches and run the nozzle out 1 1/2 turns. This is the best it has run as far as getting rid of the spontaneous overflows. The problem with this there is alot of foam in the neck and body, and the skimmer air intake still fluctuates (surges) but if I open the nozzle more it overflows. Some day I hope to figure it out.

[Mark SF]

Originally Posted by GQuinn

I wished I could help you, but I am still having issues with this skimmer. Out of frustration and a lack of help from Royal Exclusiv, I quit using this skimmer after 3 months. A couple of months ago I decided to retry using it. With some help from Slief we decided to raise the skimmer to 6 3/4 inches and run the nozzle out 1 1/2 turns. This is the best it has run as far as getting rid of the spontaneous overflows. The problem with this there is alot of foam in the neck and body, and the skimmer air intake still fluctuates (surges) but if I open the nozzle more it overflows. Some day I hope to figure it out.

When you refer to the nozzle, is this the white piece on the inlet to the pump? If so, I had to back this out fairly far in order to stop the surging. Once I found a sweet spot, it stopped surging, but the water separation level is pretty low in the skimmer body.

If i leave the white nozzle screwed all the way in, the pump struggles big time. I've never seen an adjustment on the pump like this before....

The skimmer is new, so it has some breaking in to do and has not produced any stable foam after 24 hours.

I will keep you posted.

[moondoggy4]

GQuin and Mark SF have you guys tried a Vertex pump from the 150 Omega?

[Mark SF]

Originally Posted by moondoggy4

GQuin and Mark SF have you guys tried a Vertex pump from the 150 Omega?

No, my previous skimmer is the KZ Revolution S.

So far, I have dialed in this skimmer nicely. She is pulling a light green skimmate. No micro bubbles and it is insanely quiet...

Third notch from the left in exactly 7" water height. The white nozzle on the inlet of the pump is about 2-3 threads exposed, which is the only way I can describe this measurement.

-Mark

[GQuinn]

Well this skimmer is back to overflowing. Soaked cabinet again. What is it with this skimmer? If I leave the nozzle at two turns out in 6 3/4 to 7" inches of water depth it doesn't overflow, but it fills the skimmer body (not the cup)full of foam. Even if I close the wedge pipe the foam has a hard time entering the cup. Three turns out of the nozzle at the same water depth it overflows, even with the wedge pipe open. My I-tech 100 is three times better than this skimmer (just noisier). If you expect help from Royal- Exclusiv good luck with that, their customer service is terrible. If anyone is running this skimmer (Dc-150) please tell me your settings. I have owned a lot of skimmers (ATB, Warner-Marine, Skimz and I-tech) and this is the most temperamental, inconsistent skimmer I have ever owned. I will say, it is the quietest skimmer I've ever owned. How does Royal Exclusiv control which way the pump spins when it is turned on and off? The reason I asked is the output of the pump is at the bottom of the pump not central to the impeller, so it seems if the pump spun different directions when tuning on and off, would this change flow out of the pump?

[powder_blue]

Originally Posted by GQuinn

Well this skimmer is back to overflowing. Soaked cabinet again. What is it with this skimmer? If I leave the nozzle at two turns out in 6 3/4 to 7" inches of water depth it doesn't overflow, but it fills the skimmer body (not the cup)full of foam. Even if I close the wedge pipe the foam has a hard time entering the cup. Three turns out of the nozzle at the same water depth it overflows, even with the wedge pipe open. My I-tech 100 is three times better than this skimmer (just noisier). If you expect help from Royal- Exclusiv good luck with that, their customer service is terrible. If anyone is running this skimmer (Dc-150) please tell me your settings. I have owned a lot of skimmers (ATB, Warner-Marine, Skimz and I-tech) and this is the most temperamental, inconsistent skimmer I have ever owned. I will say, it is the quietest skimmer I've ever owned. How does Royal Exclusiv control which way the pump spins when it is turned on and off? The reason I asked is the output of the pump is at the bottom of the pump not central to the impeller, so it seems if the pump spun different directions when tuning on and off, would this change flow out of the pump?

If the skimmer is new do this:

Set water depth to 6.75"
Open wedge pipe all the way
Close white nozzle completely and mark it with a sharpie at the top
Open the white nozzle exactly 2.5 turns
Let it run for 2 days without touching it
Unscrew nozzle to 3 turns
Slowly adjust wedge pipe to raise level in skimmer

It took me about 2 weeks to get it completely broken in and it became the best skimmer I've owned

If it's not new then do this:

Set water to 6.75"
Open nozzle exactly 3 turns
Adjust wedge pipe to set water height in skimmer

If neither of these work I can tell you it's something in your water. Make up 10 gallons of fresh salt water and let your skimmer overflow into a bucket and replace the water as needed. It WILL remove whatever is going on and you will be a happy man.

Post a vid of your skimmer running and I'll try to help you

[GQuinn]

Originally Posted by powder_blue

If the skimmer is new do this:

Set water depth to 6.75"
Open wedge pipe all the way
Close white nozzle completely and mark it with a sharpie at the top
Open the white nozzle exactly 2.5 turns
Let it run for 2 days without touching it
Unscrew nozzle to 3 turns
Slowly adjust wedge pipe to raise level in skimmer

It took me about 2 weeks to get it completely broken in and it became the best skimmer I've owned

If it's not new then do this:

Set water to 6.75"
Open nozzle exactly 3 turns
Adjust wedge pipe to set water height in skimmer

If neither of these work I can tell you it's something in your water. Make up 10 gallons of fresh salt water and let your skimmer overflow into a bucket and replace the water as needed. It WILL remove whatever is going on and you will be a happy man.

Post a vid of your skimmer running and I'll try to help you

Thanks for the information. The skimmer is not new. I had this set up for three months and it would constantly overflow. I took it down after three months out of frustration. I decided a couple of months ago to set it back up. Today when I got home from work it was in 6.75 inches of water, nozzle three turns out wedge pipe 3/4 open and it was overflowing like crazy. I removed the wedge pipe completely and it still overflowed. With the nozzle 2 or 2 1/2 turns it completely fills the skimmer with foam (but not the cup)until I almost close the wedge pipe, then it gets the foam into the cup, but the water level in the skimmer is in the neck. In the two months it has been running I haven't collected enough skimate all together to fill the cup once.

[powder_blue]

Try letting it overflow into the bucket for about 10 gallons. I think it will fix your problem. There aren't many variables with the skimmer and it seems to be leading to the water in my opinion. I thought there was no way there could be something in my water and sure enough after I let it dump about 10 gallons it was perfect. Hope it works for you

[moondoggy4]

Originally Posted by Mark SF

No, my previous skimmer is the KZ Revolution S.

So far, I have dialed in this skimmer nicely. She is pulling a light green skimmate. No micro bubbles and it is insanely quiet...

Third notch from the left in exactly 7" water height. The white nozzle on the inlet of the pump is about 2-3 threads exposed, which is the only way I can describe this measurement.

-Mark

PM sent

[Chris155hp]

Originally Posted by Klaus Jansen

Hi Jeremy,...

you are right.... the 50 Watt RD3-Speedy Skimmerpump is oversized for the Mini DC 150....

Royal-Exclusiv has a very small 12 Volt SineWave DC-Pump under Development. New patented Stator Technology. The Body have only 50mm Diameter.
This Pump is not made in Plastic, its made in Duplex Steel or pure Titanium. The Speed is going up to 4000 rpm.
Perfect Pump for small Skimmers as Double Cone 150 and 130. Comming middle of next year on the Market.

best regards ... Klaus

Any update on this new DC motors?

[Ryan Paggi]

I am having a problem with understanding the nozzle adjustments. I don't see a difference between it being turned 2 turns out to 5 turns out. My skimmer is about 2 months old and can't get it to keep a foam head on it. It's sitting in about 7 in of water and its on a 30 gal tank with a 10 gal sump. It did a great job skimming in the beginning but not now. I just took it out and cleaned the whole thing with vinager and it started to foam last night but then this morning it couldn't get enough foam going. Any ideas?

[Jay Ellul]

Great instructions Powder Blue

I am successfully running mine at 7 inches but it was already broken in. I will say I had all the early issue that people are describing but as Powder blue said, if you follow his guide and the break in period as instructed by RE it is definitely something with your water

[Vac7369]

I just got my double cone two weeks ago. Is there a key to get it to not overflow nonstop? I have the wedge pipe fully open.

[slief]

Originally Posted by Vac7369

I just got my double cone two weeks ago. Is there a key to get it to not overflow nonstop? I have the wedge pipe fully open.

Which double cone?? If it's a 130 or 150, the adjustable nozzle will need to be set someplace between 3.5-4.5 turns out from fully closed. A tiny adjust can make a big difference so keep that in mind when you are adjusting the nozzle. Also, it would help if you mark the nozzle with a sharpie pen across the nozzle and the part it threads into so you have a reference point as to where you are when you are making adjustments. Taking notes on your nozzle settings will help you better understand how turning the nozzle impacts the skimmer. Every tank is different in terms of load, organics in the water, salinity, sump level etc so you will need to find the sweet spot for you tank in terms of sump level and nozzle adjustments. The other thing is the sump level. If your sump level is too high, it will overflow regardless of what you do. I would suggest a sump level between 6.5 and 7" deep. Maybe start at 7.5", open the nozzle 4.5 turns and let it settle down overnight. If it's still overflowing try turning closing the nozzle slightly and let it settle back down. Every time you adjust your nozzle, it's going to need some time to settle back in due to oils in your skin effecting the surface tension of the water. The key will be finding the balance between the adjustable nozzle and the sump depth. Aim the thickest foam possible with the nozzle and raise or lower the sump level until you get the line where bubbles turn to foam just below the collar where the neck threads to the skimmer body. From there, you can use the wedge pipe to adjust the level up further into the neck.

Also keep in mind that it takes a week or so for a skimmer to break in. Assuming it's not broken in, any adjustments you make now will likely need to be refined after the skimmer breaks in. My guess is that you put it in your sump when you got it a couple weeks ago so break in likely isn't a concern at this point.