Begginer Cephalopods

Meus · 10/23/2010, 04:25 PM

So, I am still quite new to marine tanks (9 years in freshies, 5 in planted though), but I am exited to explore everything from Seahorses to Mantis shrimps, to Mega reefs. Anyways I finally made my way to this forum

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I have questions like, what are the best cephalopods for a begginer, specifically one who doesn't have a lot of space, enough, but not alot. Methinks the cuttlefish are of my greatest appeal. I am going off to do more research on the google net. I will check back in a little bit.

Meus · 10/23/2010, 05:19 PM

So after a good bit of research I have decided on Sepia Bandensis, of corse I am always open to new ideas. But, I do have a twenty tall tank that I want to convert from a freshie to something cooler.

VacavilleFC3S · 10/24/2010, 05:45 PM

i personally wouldn't recommand any type of cephalopod to a person who's new to saltwater.

i was recently researching hatching out some cuttlefish but it's just to expensive, the mysis shrimp to feed them cost about $100 shipped for 500 which will only last 1 cuttle baby about a month.

i'd start slow and research what you can afford, you can easily get over your head in this hobby.

Meus · 10/24/2010, 08:35 PM

O, I know. This would def. be one of my later projects. I just want to open new doors and search through dusty boxs

Koshmar · 10/25/2010, 09:37 AM

I got into this hobby because of cuttles. While cuttles aren't the best animal for beginners, they tend to be exaggerated in terms of difficulty to keep IMO. I read and prepared for about six months before setting up my first tank. I began completely new (no experience fresh or salt) with mantis shrimp. 4 stomatopods and a year later I stummbled upon a day old baby S. Bandensis, raised the little guy with no problems then transitioned back to mantis shrimp. And that part about mysid shrimp is true, they go through a TON of food while growing but if you have the money you'll be ok. Try Tonmo.com and Dr James Wood's Cephalopod Page for some good info. And feel free to pm me about mantis questions anytime.

VacavilleFC3S · 10/25/2010, 03:58 PM

tonmo's basically dead i don't know why people keep referring people back to them

Koshmar · 10/25/2010, 08:30 PM

Because of the vast amount of info in their threads/archives/articles. If say the mantis forum went dead tomorrow it would be the same circumstance; back in the archives you have over 5 years of threads with experiences and Dr Caldwell's advice. Tonmo is like having an archive of many Dr Caldwells giving advice on cephs instead of stomatopods. It's a database more than anything.

Lmecher · 10/26/2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VacavilleFC3S

tonmo's basically dead i don't know why people keep referring people back to them

Are you kidding? I think NOT!
Tonmo.com has a lot of traffic. ((I visit daily) There are many people currently keeping and journaling their cephs, including me. New ones are being started regularly. Obviously someone spoke without researching. Oops!

Tonmo,com is the place you'll find asnwers to all your questions.

bluesub · 10/29/2010, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VacavilleFC3S

tonmo's basically dead i don't know why people keep referring people back to them

Why do you think they are dead? It's a pretty active community, although smaller than RC...

Meus · 11/11/2010, 11:05 AM

Please don't argue further. I would prefer not to have my thread closed for silly reasons.

Lmecher · 11/13/2010, 11:09 PM

Just clearing up misinformation.

Sorry if I came across as argumentative.

Grinch245 · 12/18/2010, 11:00 PM

I recommend a baby bimac Octo. Also I agree octos an cuttles are over rated for care and diff.

10/23/2010, 04:25 PM	#1
Meus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Somewhere at all times Posts: 206	Begginer Cephalopods So, I am still quite new to marine tanks (9 years in freshies, 5 in planted though), but I am exited to explore everything from Seahorses to Mantis shrimps, to Mega reefs. Anyways I finally made my way to this forum. I have questions like, what are the best cephalopods for a begginer, specifically one who doesn't have a lot of space, enough, but not alot. Methinks the cuttlefish are of my greatest appeal. I am going off to do more research on the google net. I will check back in a little bit.

10/25/2010, 09:37 AM	#5
Koshmar The Hardy Mongolian Pony Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 1,372	I got into this hobby because of cuttles. While cuttles aren't the best animal for beginners, they tend to be exaggerated in terms of difficulty to keep IMO. I read and prepared for about six months before setting up my first tank. I began completely new (no experience fresh or salt) with mantis shrimp. 4 stomatopods and a year later I stummbled upon a day old baby S. Bandensis, raised the little guy with no problems then transitioned back to mantis shrimp. And that part about mysid shrimp is true, they go through a TON of food while growing but if you have the money you'll be ok. Try Tonmo.com and Dr James Wood's Cephalopod Page for some good info. And feel free to pm me about mantis questions anytime. __________________ All Day I Dream About Stomatopods

10/25/2010, 08:30 PM	#7
Koshmar The Hardy Mongolian Pony Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 1,372	Because of the vast amount of info in their threads/archives/articles. If say the mantis forum went dead tomorrow it would be the same circumstance; back in the archives you have over 5 years of threads with experiences and Dr Caldwell's advice. Tonmo is like having an archive of many Dr Caldwells giving advice on cephs instead of stomatopods. It's a database more than anything. __________________ All Day I Dream About Stomatopods

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10/23/2010, 05:19 PM	#2
Meus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Somewhere at all times Posts: 206	So after a good bit of research I have decided on Sepia Bandensis, of corse I am always open to new ideas. But, I do have a twenty tall tank that I want to convert from a freshie to something cooler.

10/24/2010, 05:45 PM	#3
VacavilleFC3S Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vacaville California Posts: 2,613	i personally wouldn't recommand any type of cephalopod to a person who's new to saltwater. i was recently researching hatching out some cuttlefish but it's just to expensive, the mysis shrimp to feed them cost about $100 shipped for 500 which will only last 1 cuttle baby about a month. i'd start slow and research what you can afford, you can easily get over your head in this hobby.

10/24/2010, 08:35 PM	#4
Meus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Somewhere at all times Posts: 206	O, I know. This would def. be one of my later projects. I just want to open new doors and search through dusty boxs

10/25/2010, 03:58 PM	#6
VacavilleFC3S Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vacaville California Posts: 2,613	tonmo's basically dead i don't know why people keep referring people back to them

11/11/2010, 11:05 AM	#10
Meus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Somewhere at all times Posts: 206	Please don't argue further. I would prefer not to have my thread closed for silly reasons.

11/13/2010, 11:09 PM	#11
Lmecher Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,337	Just clearing up misinformation. Sorry if I came across as argumentative.

12/18/2010, 11:00 PM	#12
Grinch245 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 28	I recommend a baby bimac Octo. Also I agree octos an cuttles are over rated for care and diff.