Butterflytown - 240 FOWLR - Page 30

caribfan · 08/20/2017, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DFS

Auripes and Nippon are most commonly available, but for some reason not Wieblei. I will work with a few folks to try and procure some Wiebeli if the opportunity presents itself.

Cheers,
Kevin

Hey Kevin,

That would be one heck of a thing. Dayton Ohio say hello, btw.

Curious to know if you have a feeling for the price range.

Thanks,

Matt

humaguy · 08/21/2017, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by caribfan

Hey Kevin,

That would be one heck of a thing. Dayton Ohio say hello, btw.

Curious to know if you have a feeling for the price range.

Thanks,

Matt

Dude,

So cool to have Kevin acting as point on this and to still see him doing what has made DD/LA many of our default LFS.

Following and wishing you every success. Great to see you doing this. I admire your courage. Lol, the Arabian, I drool over that fish.
If I can do anything to assist, let me know!

Best of luck,

Ted

caribfan · 08/21/2017, 12:11 PM

Hey Ted,

I'm hopeful Kevin can come through here, I don't have near the connections you do, but I know a few people, and it sounds like these fish are just not imported to the states often.

The Arabian is trying, not having success so far, but time will tell. Are you familiar with a product called mastic? Think it's sold on Amazon. I'm going to try that soon I think, it's a gel that you have to mix up.

Hope you and the tank are doing well.

Matt

Naraku · 08/22/2017, 07:57 AM

how is the Moorish idol?

I want to try one again but they tend to just stop eating and get skinny.

caribfan · 08/22/2017, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Naraku

how is the Moorish idol?

I want to try one again but they tend to just stop eating and get skinny.

Mine is doing well, eats like a pig. I am feeding the tank heavily to try and fatten him up. He's gaining girth on the underside near his pelvic fins, but still isn't filling out up top. I figure it will take time.

He gets a diet of LRS and Julian Sprung Sea Veggies. And the occasional clams.

caribfan · 08/22/2017, 08:33 AM

Here is a video of the Declivis, Semilarvatus and Golden Puffer. Everyone is doing well.

I'm acclimating the P. Ocellatus currently.

Naraku · 08/22/2017, 08:41 AM

are you qt ing with prazi + copper?

Unfortunately my rainfordi pair died from brook. I was hesitant to treat them because they were eating pellets aggressively.

Naraku · 08/22/2017, 08:44 AM

did you get the idol from la?

The ones at my lfs tend to be skinny.

caribfan · 08/22/2017, 08:46 AM

Sorry to hear about the Rainfordi, one of my favorite fish for sure.

I would typically treat with Cupramine and Prazi. I'm not sure what my plan is going to be here honestly, specifically because that Declivis is so tiny and puffers typically don't like copper. I did treat my black dog face in copper without issue, but this fish is almost twice the cost, so I'm a little skiddish on the copper.

Where did the brook come from?

caribfan · 08/22/2017, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Naraku

did you get the idol from la?

The ones at my lfs tend to be skinny.

No, my local guy sourced it for me. Not sure where it came from, but it was skinny when it came in.

He's kind of a jerk, he'll actually attack my Achilles sometimes.

Naraku · 08/22/2017, 09:10 AM

bza. brand new qt tank

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Originally Posted by caribfan

Sorry to hear about the Rainfordi, one of my favorite fish for sure.

I would typically treat with Cupramine and Prazi. I'm not sure what my plan is going to be here honestly, specifically because that Declivis is so tiny and puffers typically don't like copper. I did treat my black dog face in copper without issue, but this fish is almost twice the cost, so I'm a little skiddish on the copper.

Where did the brook come from?

caribfan · 08/22/2017, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Naraku

bza. brand new qt tank

Hadn't they been in quarantine for a while? Did you add something new from BZA that introduced the Brook? Or did it just manifest itself after some time?

I've never dealt with brook before thankfully, but it's my understanding that fish typically come down with the symptoms shortly after it's introduced. Could be wrong though.

Sucks either way.

Naraku · 08/22/2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by caribfan

Hadn't they been in quarantine for a while? Did you add something new from BZA that introduced the Brook? Or did it just manifest itself after some time?

I've never dealt with brook before thankfully, but it's my understanding that fish typically come down with the symptoms shortly after it's introduced. Could be wrong though.

Sucks either way.

It came down in like 2 weeks.
I noticed that copper and furan seem like very useful drug.

They were the only fish in qt

After treating my current fish, their appetite go up.

caribfan · 08/22/2017, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Naraku

It came down in like 2 weeks.
I noticed that copper and furan seem like very useful drug.

They were the only fish in qt

After treating my current fish, their appetite go up.

So had you treated with copper prior to the brook development? Which product are you using?

I'm going to dip the declivis tonight, looks like she's got a fluke on her tail. Will be starting prazi if that's the case.

Naraku · 08/22/2017, 08:00 PM

No, I started treating my current butterflies because the Auriga developed a sore. This happened after 2 months of observation.

I tank transferred them and then observed them. I didn't use chemicals on them because my in my past experience ( treatment + ttm) is too much.

The rainfordi were never treated, because I was focused on getting them to eat.
With rainfordi, I think its up to the individual. sometimes, they eat every well. In other shipments they never eat. 50% chance getting one that is eating.

Naraku · 08/23/2017, 09:42 PM

Caribfan,

I just saw your dream fish on DD! Better act now.

caribfan · 08/24/2017, 04:48 AM

The P. Ocellatus? I ordered the first one that came available last Friday, showed up this past Tuesday. It's doing ok, but not eating much or at all really. I'm going to give it another day and then move it to a new tank.

Thanks for the heads up though, l try to get another video with that fish in it.

SDguy · 08/24/2017, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by caribfan

The P. Ocellatus? I ordered the first one that came available last Friday, showed up this past Tuesday. It's doing ok, but not eating much or at all really. I'm going to give it another day and then move it to a new tank.

Thanks for the heads up though, l try to get another video with that fish in it.

Looking forward to your progress!

caribfan · 08/26/2017, 06:33 AM

Finally something to report. The Ocellatus starting picking at food for the first time last night. The behavior is very reminiscent of the Altivelis Coradion I had a while back. Kind of a shy and timid feeder, not really out with the rest of the fish eating.

I dipped the Declivis two days ago and had two small flukes pop off. I'm going to dip the Semi this afternoon, I'm pretty sure I've got a small infestation going. I don't want to start prazi yet though because the ocellatus isn't eating well yet. I may have to move him and start treatment anyway.

Quick video of my display tank and then quarantine tank. Does anybody know how to improve the video quality? Should I change the spectrum on my LEDs to all white?

SDguy · 08/26/2017, 08:47 AM

IMO dipping will really help, and if a fish isn't eating well yet, it's definitely a way to go. Prazi is great for established fish, but IME it really does kill the appetite.

Your fish look great!! Ugh I really miss my flavirostris.... time to source another.

humaguy · 08/26/2017, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by caribfan

Finally something to report. The Ocellatus starting picking at food for the first time last night. The behavior is very reminiscent of the Altivelis Coradion I had a while back. Kind of a shy and timid feeder, not really out with the rest of the fish eating.

I dipped the Declivis two days ago and had two small flukes pop off. I'm going to dip the Semi this afternoon, I'm pretty sure I've got a small infestation going. I don't want to start prazi yet though because the ocellatus isn't eating well yet. I may have to move him and start treatment anyway.

Quick video of my display tank and then quarantine tank. Does anybody know how to improve the video quality? Should I change the spectrum on my LEDs to all white?

Drooling again...lol, just watched 3 times, looking great, continued success!
Try taking a video with only natural light, if that is possible. More whites could help too. Keep em coming!

Ted

caribfan · 08/26/2017, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDguy

IMO dipping will really help, and if a fish isn't eating well yet, it's definitely a way to go. Prazi is great for established fish, but IME it really does kill the appetite.

Your fish look great!! Ugh I really miss my flavirostris.... time to source another.

I definitely agree, I'm not the biggest fan of Prazi. I always end up dipping the fish after treatment anyway to be sure the flukes are gone anyway.

I think it's definitely time for some new additions to your tank. I'm targeting a mitratus around Christmas time.

caribfan · 08/26/2017, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by humaguy

Drooling again...lol, just watched 3 times, looking great, continued success!
Try taking a video with only natural light, if that is possible. More whites could help too. Keep em coming!

Ted

Thanks Ted, I think it's gonna be a long road on the ocellatus.

I'll try to change the lighting and take another video this afternoon. Tanks are in the basement, not much natural light.

Naraku · 08/26/2017, 11:49 PM

Its really skinny. need to get eating asap

Quote:

Originally Posted by caribfan

Finally something to report. The Ocellatus starting picking at food for the first time last night. The behavior is very reminiscent of the Altivelis Coradion I had a while back. Kind of a shy and timid feeder, not really out with the rest of the fish eating.

I dipped the Declivis two days ago and had two small flukes pop off. I'm going to dip the Semi this afternoon, I'm pretty sure I've got a small infestation going. I don't want to start prazi yet though because the ocellatus isn't eating well yet. I may have to move him and start treatment anyway.

Quick video of my display tank and then quarantine tank. Does anybody know how to improve the video quality? Should I change the spectrum on my LEDs to all white?

SDguy · 08/27/2017, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by caribfan

I definitely agree, I'm not the biggest fan of Prazi. I always end up dipping the fish after treatment anyway to be sure the flukes are gone anyway.

I think it's definitely time for some new additions to your tank. I'm targeting a mitratus around Christmas time.

Unfortunately my burgessi will kill that idea.

08/21/2017, 12:11 PM	#728
caribfan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,922	Hey Ted, I'm hopeful Kevin can come through here, I don't have near the connections you do, but I know a few people, and it sounds like these fish are just not imported to the states often. The Arabian is trying, not having success so far, but time will tell. Are you familiar with a product called mastic? Think it's sold on Amazon. I'm going to try that soon I think, it's a gel that you have to mix up. Hope you and the tank are doing well. Matt __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder Quarantine Tank, 240 Miracles Finally up and running, 29 Biocube - AI Nano

08/22/2017, 08:33 AM	#731
caribfan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,922	Here is a video of the Declivis, Semilarvatus and Golden Puffer. Everyone is doing well. I'm acclimating the P. Ocellatus currently. __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder Quarantine Tank, 240 Miracles Finally up and running, 29 Biocube - AI Nano

08/22/2017, 08:46 AM	#734
caribfan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,922	Sorry to hear about the Rainfordi, one of my favorite fish for sure. I would typically treat with Cupramine and Prazi. I'm not sure what my plan is going to be here honestly, specifically because that Declivis is so tiny and puffers typically don't like copper. I did treat my black dog face in copper without issue, but this fish is almost twice the cost, so I'm a little skiddish on the copper. Where did the brook come from? __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder Quarantine Tank, 240 Miracles Finally up and running, 29 Biocube - AI Nano

08/24/2017, 04:48 AM	#742
caribfan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,922	The P. Ocellatus? I ordered the first one that came available last Friday, showed up this past Tuesday. It's doing ok, but not eating much or at all really. I'm going to give it another day and then move it to a new tank. Thanks for the heads up though, l try to get another video with that fish in it. __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder Quarantine Tank, 240 Miracles Finally up and running, 29 Biocube - AI Nano

08/26/2017, 06:33 AM	#744
caribfan Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,922	Finally something to report. The Ocellatus starting picking at food for the first time last night. The behavior is very reminiscent of the Altivelis Coradion I had a while back. Kind of a shy and timid feeder, not really out with the rest of the fish eating. I dipped the Declivis two days ago and had two small flukes pop off. I'm going to dip the Semi this afternoon, I'm pretty sure I've got a small infestation going. I don't want to start prazi yet though because the ocellatus isn't eating well yet. I may have to move him and start treatment anyway. Quick video of my display tank and then quarantine tank. Does anybody know how to improve the video quality? Should I change the spectrum on my LEDs to all white? __________________ Matt Current Tank Info: 50 Breeder Quarantine Tank, 240 Miracles Finally up and running, 29 Biocube - AI Nano

08/22/2017, 07:57 AM	#729
Naraku Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 512	how is the Moorish idol? I want to try one again but they tend to just stop eating and get skinny.

08/22/2017, 08:41 AM	#732
Naraku Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 512	are you qt ing with prazi + copper? Unfortunately my rainfordi pair died from brook. I was hesitant to treat them because they were eating pellets aggressively.

08/22/2017, 08:44 AM	#733
Naraku Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 512	did you get the idol from la? The ones at my lfs tend to be skinny.

08/22/2017, 08:00 PM	#740
Naraku Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 512	No, I started treating my current butterflies because the Auriga developed a sore. This happened after 2 months of observation. I tank transferred them and then observed them. I didn't use chemicals on them because my in my past experience ( treatment + ttm) is too much. The rainfordi were never treated, because I was focused on getting them to eat. With rainfordi, I think its up to the individual. sometimes, they eat every well. In other shipments they never eat. 50% chance getting one that is eating.

08/23/2017, 09:42 PM	#741
Naraku Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 512	Caribfan, I just saw your dream fish on DD! Better act now.

08/26/2017, 08:47 AM	#745
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	IMO dipping will really help, and if a fish isn't eating well yet, it's definitely a way to go. Prazi is great for established fish, but IME it really does kill the appetite. Your fish look great!! Ugh I really miss my flavirostris.... time to source another. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.