Zoas on barebottom ideas

enchelycore808 · 06/05/2014, 08:36 PM

Just wanted some opinions on an idea I have. My original plan was to cover my barebottom tank with zoas. Was waiting for the bottom to gt some coralline growth so the glue would hold a bit better but what about using the square frag tiles? Anyone ever tried just lining the bottom with frag tiles and letting the zoas grow on that? At least if it didn't look as good as I thought it would I could just pull the tiles out instead of razoring zoas off the glass. My main concern would be detritus building up under and inbetween the tiles.

A. Grandis · 06/05/2014, 08:52 PM

Detritus isn't as bad as many would think. Of course too much detritus wouldn't be good for any system in the long run, but any system will have some detritus here and there. I syphon detritus as much as I can and I also vacuum my thin sand layer. You could aways do that.

If you're worried about detritus between/under the tiles you could silicone them together side by side and place them on the bottom of the tank as a "rug". You will still have some minor detritus/denitrification environment under the "rug". Not a big deal!

Some people use cutting boards for that purpose, so the tiles would be similar, but less work. That would work for you.

If you want to place the tiles as they are, loosely, you would be able to change them around and remove sections to dip in case you've got problems with bacterial infections and such. If you want to use tiles, then that actually would be the best way to go!!! Simply place the tiles on the bottom of the tank and syphon detritus between them when you do water changes...

It's up to you. Have a good time and enjoy your project!

Grandis.

enchelycore808 · 06/05/2014, 08:59 PM

Being able to remove as needed to frag or to treat is a definite plus. Cutting Board is out of the question as I had to fall in love with the fluval edge. It's a very attractive tank don't get me wrong, but decorating the tank or just basically doing anything in tank is a NIGHTMARE! The opening you work with is only 4x7" so yea... Cool man I give the tiles a try and post a pic when I get it done.

A. Grandis · 06/05/2014, 09:18 PM

If you have a chance and find hexagonal tiles you'll probably have a better way to group them together while changing their positions in the tank. It's just better than the square ones.
Have fun!

Grandis.

Da Maui life · 06/06/2014, 03:24 PM

I cut down some travertine squares 1.5x1.5 easily moved if need be, as they grow out.

Mael · 06/06/2014, 07:13 PM

I hate tile frag plugs for use in a DT, but man are they nice for a frag or prop tank. And if your going to get into making a carpet of zoas or decent size frag/prop tank then cut tiles like Da Maui Life has are the cheapest and best method.

SantaMonica · 06/07/2014, 12:40 PM

The tiles are a genius idea for lining the bottom. Just lift them out if needed

As for detritus, it will be the same amount with or without tiles. If your CUC is enough, however, they will break it up as fast as it settles.

NavyBlueSea · 06/08/2014, 03:48 PM

Tiles are a great idea. I had cutting board cut to fit the bottom and it did have detritus built up underneath. Being able to move the tiles around would really help in keeping things a little cleaner and to do treatments or if you wanted to change part of the carpet to a different zoa or color.

nickg · 06/08/2014, 03:56 PM

I've seen a couple let them take over the bottom and it looks like turf..

enchelycore808 · 10/19/2014, 07:22 PM

Alright just thought I'd update this thread. I FINALLY got off my procrastinating butt and did it with frag tiles. Looks a little strange now but I have to think of the long run. Now I gotta save money for a ton of zoas and Rics lol!

Coelli · 10/19/2014, 07:46 PM

I think it looks really cool actually, like a plaza. Makes me want to do that and add GSP so it looks like a lawn

discoreefer · 10/22/2014, 07:47 AM

Those tiles look pretty cool. Is that something you get a home depot or does someone sell them online?

m0nkie · 10/22/2014, 12:27 PM

awesome idea! I'm currently running tiles with GSP. going to cover my coast to coast overflow with GSP turf

Jack5746 · 10/22/2014, 05:44 PM

I am using white ceramic floor tiles to cover the bottom of my 400 gallon plywood tank. I thought that they might protect the bottom in case any rocks fell. Don't want to take a chance of puncturing the rubberize-it and epoxy membrane. Then I also use six inch tumbled stones to glue my zoa's on so they should be easier to propagate.

enchelycore808 · 10/22/2014, 07:02 PM

Using the ocean wonders and this bulk brand one. Shoulda went with all ocean wonders because they were very uniform in size and it better. I have GSP down the left side of the tank. Had to scrape it all off the glass and regular them to the tiles.

06/05/2014, 08:36 PM	#1
enchelycore808 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 405	Zoas on barebottom ideas Just wanted some opinions on an idea I have. My original plan was to cover my barebottom tank with zoas. Was waiting for the bottom to gt some coralline growth so the glue would hold a bit better but what about using the square frag tiles? Anyone ever tried just lining the bottom with frag tiles and letting the zoas grow on that? At least if it didn't look as good as I thought it would I could just pull the tiles out instead of razoring zoas off the glass. My main concern would be detritus building up under and inbetween the tiles.

06/05/2014, 08:52 PM	#2
A. Grandis Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Honolulu Posts: 3,418	Detritus isn't as bad as many would think. Of course too much detritus wouldn't be good for any system in the long run, but any system will have some detritus here and there. I syphon detritus as much as I can and I also vacuum my thin sand layer. You could aways do that. If you're worried about detritus between/under the tiles you could silicone them together side by side and place them on the bottom of the tank as a "rug". You will still have some minor detritus/denitrification environment under the "rug". Not a big deal! Some people use cutting boards for that purpose, so the tiles would be similar, but less work. That would work for you. If you want to place the tiles as they are, loosely, you would be able to change them around and remove sections to dip in case you've got problems with bacterial infections and such. If you want to use tiles, then that actually would be the best way to go!!! Simply place the tiles on the bottom of the tank and syphon detritus between them when you do water changes... It's up to you. Have a good time and enjoy your project! Grandis. __________________ Cartoon names + 1-5 polyps on white plugs = easy money!!! Really? Try to become a reefer, not a "plugger", please! Don't forget that LEDs are actually the shop lights nowadays!! Try HOT5s!

06/05/2014, 09:18 PM	#4
A. Grandis Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Honolulu Posts: 3,418	If you have a chance and find hexagonal tiles you'll probably have a better way to group them together while changing their positions in the tank. It's just better than the square ones. Have fun! Grandis. __________________ Cartoon names + 1-5 polyps on white plugs = easy money!!! Really? Try to become a reefer, not a "plugger", please! Don't forget that LEDs are actually the shop lights nowadays!! Try HOT5s!

06/06/2014, 03:24 PM	#5
Da Maui life Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 521	I cut down some travertine squares 1.5x1.5 easily moved if need be, as they grow out. __________________ Current Tank Info: 50 G Tall Last edited by Da Maui life; 06/06/2014 at 03:56 PM.

10/22/2014, 12:27 PM	#13
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	awesome idea! I'm currently running tiles with GSP. going to cover my coast to coast overflow with GSP turf __________________ 560gal in the making

06/05/2014, 08:59 PM	#3
enchelycore808 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 405	Being able to remove as needed to frag or to treat is a definite plus. Cutting Board is out of the question as I had to fall in love with the fluval edge. It's a very attractive tank don't get me wrong, but decorating the tank or just basically doing anything in tank is a NIGHTMARE! The opening you work with is only 4x7" so yea... Cool man I give the tiles a try and post a pic when I get it done.

06/06/2014, 07:13 PM	#6
Mael Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,351	I hate tile frag plugs for use in a DT, but man are they nice for a frag or prop tank. And if your going to get into making a carpet of zoas or decent size frag/prop tank then cut tiles like Da Maui Life has are the cheapest and best method.

06/07/2014, 12:40 PM	#7
SantaMonica Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Monica, California, USA Posts: 2,511	The tiles are a genius idea for lining the bottom. Just lift them out if needed As for detritus, it will be the same amount with or without tiles. If your CUC is enough, however, they will break it up as fast as it settles.

06/08/2014, 03:48 PM	#8
NavyBlueSea Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 74	Tiles are a great idea. I had cutting board cut to fit the bottom and it did have detritus built up underneath. Being able to move the tiles around would really help in keeping things a little cleaner and to do treatments or if you wanted to change part of the carpet to a different zoa or color.

06/08/2014, 03:56 PM	#9
nickg Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Stockbridge Georgia Posts: 49	I've seen a couple let them take over the bottom and it looks like turf..

10/19/2014, 07:22 PM	#10
enchelycore808 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 405	Alright just thought I'd update this thread. I FINALLY got off my procrastinating butt and did it with frag tiles. Looks a little strange now but I have to think of the long run. Now I gotta save money for a ton of zoas and Rics lol!

10/19/2014, 07:46 PM	#11
Coelli Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Tujunga, CA Posts: 1,443	I think it looks really cool actually, like a plaza. Makes me want to do that and add GSP so it looks like a lawn

10/22/2014, 07:47 AM	#12
discoreefer Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 54	Those tiles look pretty cool. Is that something you get a home depot or does someone sell them online?

10/22/2014, 05:44 PM	#14
Jack5746 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Alliance Nebraska Posts: 104	I am using white ceramic floor tiles to cover the bottom of my 400 gallon plywood tank. I thought that they might protect the bottom in case any rocks fell. Don't want to take a chance of puncturing the rubberize-it and epoxy membrane. Then I also use six inch tumbled stones to glue my zoa's on so they should be easier to propagate.

10/22/2014, 07:02 PM	#15
enchelycore808 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 405	Using the ocean wonders and this bulk brand one. Shoulda went with all ocean wonders because they were very uniform in size and it better. I have GSP down the left side of the tank. Had to scrape it all off the glass and regular them to the tiles.