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12/31/2016, 01:26 AM | #1 |
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Eshopps 4th Gen Skimmers
Seeing as these have been out for only a few days, I'm assuming nobody has any feedback on them yet?
Looking at upgrading my third gen PSK100 basically to get some more room in the sump. To me the Axium mid-line basically seems like an IceCap K2 for 30% less money. Same gate valve design, same pump... Very similar. Comparing the Axium to the premium S-line it seems the only real difference is the body shape, bubble plate and the twist off bottom, which actually seems like it might become a PITA if it ever gets stuck or jammed with goop. It may or may not be made of better acrylic, I can't find any info on that online. http://www.eshopps.com/products/proteinskimmer/ Thoughts? |
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Well they are pretty.
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So I pulled the trigger on the S-120. I spent the last two days trying to figure out why I should order a Nyos instead, but there are a couple reasons why I prefer the Eshopps not even including the substantial savings. I will update the thread when I get it broken in and skimming away.
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I own the old S-120 and it rocks. Cant immagine how great the new one must be! Please keep us posted!
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Yeah, I too have a first gen S-120, and it is a very good skimmer, so the new one should be just as good or better. I do question how much better the new S-120 will be in comparison to the new Axium X-120, since they use the same pump? Not sure the added features of the S-120 are now worth it, but to fair, I wouldn't know if I didn't have them in use side-by-side.
Not going to happen any time soon as my original S-120 and three Bubble Magus Curve 5's are still going strong without issue. However, if I ever replace the Curve 5's, it would probably be with the X-120's unless reports come out that the S-120 is just that much better...
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You are right about the newer gate valve though too, especially with regards to space...
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Went back and forth on a icecap k2-120 and the new eshopps mid line. Got the axium x-120. Sweet looking skimmer. Replacing a sca301. Time will tell, but 3 hours in and I'm already getting some foam. Very pleased so far.
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Producing foam in a few hours and already has less micro bubbles than my other skimmer.
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01/10/2017, 10:54 PM | #11 |
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Here's why I switched;
Seriously it's like half the size but three times the collection cup volume . I've had it running about an hour, it's crazy quiet, I thought the old one was quiet but I guess because it had an external pump this thing seems to make zero noise. I have it in almost the deepest water recommended (right at the top of the S-120 logo, about 8.75") and it's still going to skim dry with a little room to spare. With the gate wide open the internal water level is about an inch below the cup seat which is a little lower than you'd really want. Pretty happy thus far. |
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Does anyone know if the Eshopps models use a stock sicce pump/impeller or is it modified?
I know the Icecap K2's supposedly use the stock set up, according to Coralvue. |
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Looks just like the SCA-302. What's the difference?
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Quick update on the eshopps axium x120. I know there's not a lot of info out there yet. This thing has been awesome for me. Replaced a sca301 and it can't be compared. I had darker skim mate in 48 hours than I ever got with my sca. To be fair, that skimmer had over a year on it.
I actually cleaned the eshopps cup out two evenings ago because I cleaned out a filter sock. So clean cup on Tuesday night. This is tonight (2nd cup) and still less than a week on this skimmer: |
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Glad to see a thread going on these. I'm literally just finishing my 180 Build and I was real curious about these skimmers. Just not positive on what size to Axium to buy. What the Manufacture suggests based on tank size and Bioload the community or some shops like a BRS always have very different recommendations on most skimmers. With these being new I haven't seen the "real world" suggestions yet. Or do Eshopps Skimmer actually go by what Eshopps says? How is Bioload quantified or standardized BTW? I'm asking half joking half serious.
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I might pick up an Axium x120 for my frag tank though. |
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I feel like the specs are pretty close for my x120. One of the other things I did in my research was to compare barrel size and sicce pump size to other manufacturers and their ratings. How manufacturers come up with those specs, I have no idea. I'd like to think they actually test them...lol. |
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I might pick-up a x-160 for my 120. Anyone have any feedback on how a x-160 would do a well stocked 120?
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After having the skimmer a few days my only complaint is the air intake is still maybe a bit louder than I would like. I didn't notice that before so I guess I am nit-picking. It kind of makes a hollow sound - I stuck a 4" long piece of airline tubing into the hole and it's about 80% quieter. Also the skimmer pulled 1/4 cup of junk so fast and now it has been idling for a day, lol.
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I found that interesting too. I actually think it's a typo because the X-120 tank ratings on Eshopps site is 40 - 120 which is the same as the S-120, but who knows. The Axium does seem to have a bigger body in overall volume which might make the difference. The larger Axiums are rated to larger tank sizes than the S's but they are also numbered larger... But they use the same pumps so there is probably something to it. Quote:
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Yeah I shooting for the x 220 for my 180. Still curious why all the manufacture suggestion numbers for most skimmers are so far off what the real world suggest. and usually by the whole next model number up. Just more reefing wizardry.
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