My own AEFW (Acro Eating Flatworms) images - Page 8

clkwrk · 08/22/2006, 05:17 PM

Wow that doesn't look like the same coral at all . That dip took its toll but hey its ALIVE and looks as if it will make a good recovery.

Also I will go out on a limb and say that if there are no other signs of them on other corals you might get lucky . I made the mistake of blowing the corals off in the display before removal . My wrasses got alot of them but not all of them so they were able to spread. I don't think they like to roam about on their own .

melev · 08/22/2006, 05:20 PM

Hey clkwrk, what type of acro is that in your avatar? I think it needs to be in my tank.

clkwrk · 08/22/2006, 06:08 PM

yellow Austera with purple/violet polyps. It's still a baby yet but it will be with me for a long time so I will let you know when the time comes. Just bug me every once in a while .

Sparkss · 08/22/2006, 07:58 PM

I had (have) an Austera w/ bright blue polyps on the top 1 1/2" of the tips, then the rest were bright green/yellow. It is one of the survivors so far, but just barely holding on...

Dejavu · 08/22/2006, 08:32 PM

So after read some of the results that other have got dipping w/ Betadine, I figured that i would give it a try. the first dip that i used in my QT process were with Levamisole. It seemed to kill the AEFW and i had no losts. My results w/ Betadine have been similar so far. AEFW were kill and no losts so far (only 5hrs have past). a few acro aren't looking so great be many have PE. I should be get two bottle of TMPCC next week and will be using it in my next dip.

clkwrk · 08/22/2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sparkss
I had (have) an Austera w/ bright blue polyps on the top 1 1/2" of the tips, then the rest were bright green/yellow. It is one of the survivors so far, but just barely holding on...

These are purple/violet all the way to the base every single polyp

My bennet and wild yellow do as your does blue polyps towards the tops.

melev · 08/22/2006, 09:08 PM

I've got a question for you guys regarding A. secale. Mine has been fading evenly all over the core and up most of the branches. Today as I was studying it closely, I saw some polyps extended while other areas I saw black holes where the polyps should show. This coral has encrusted on m the rockwork in a couple of directions. Does that match your AEFW experience, or is it only the oval bite marks that indicate there's a problem?

clkwrk · 08/22/2006, 09:13 PM

No I have seen them leave patches somewhat bare . Bit marks are from the lil ones and the biger areas are adults.

Here are two adults that were on my avatar

melev · 08/22/2006, 09:20 PM

Hmm. So my secale has a totally different issue going on perhaps. Of course it would. Why not just keep things simple for me?

Travis · 08/22/2006, 09:54 PM

Marc, I've experienced the same in the past. Not sure if it was FW related or not. I tend to doubt so. When my AEFW's were all over the place I was not having this issue. Every time a coral has had this issue (polyps disappear leaving behind a hollow hole) the coral eventually died.

melev · 08/22/2006, 11:12 PM

ikatobiko · 08/23/2006, 09:36 PM

It has been 4 months that my tank has been acro free.
For new colonies (small frags) I am thinking that I will not treat for AEFWs but instead quarantine the new frags for a month minimum and inspect them for FWs. If I see worms, eggs or any damaged bald spots then I will treat them and quarantine for an additional month.

I still plan to treat with Interceptor for red bugs.

Has anyone been succesful using this quarantine type approach without treating with Levamisole or Betadine?

exoticaquatix · 08/23/2006, 11:13 PM

the only tri-colors i ever had developed strange patches on them just like the pics posted by clkwrk above, the first one to show this immediately got tossed in the trash. i obviously panicked but it seemed to pay off. a few months later the secondv(A. Valida) frag started showing these marks so i fragged that in half and watched it for a week. this seemed to work until i moved my tank when the marks showed up again. this coral also met the same fate only i swished it in fresh water and noticed some very small AEFW in the bottom of the bowl. i have not seen any since (1 1/2 months)..... which leads me to yesterday when i found red bugs on my lokani!

i guess my question is whether or not betadine is effective on both red bugs and AEFW should i decide to dip a colony or 2 if they start looking crappy. sorry for the long winded intro.
-nick

melev · 08/24/2006, 01:24 AM

Nick, I don't know, but I have an A. granulosa with redbugs. I could try dipping it perhaps, and see if the bugs get upset enough to jump off.

Here's a picture of the Tyree frag today, from the side.

MSHUR · 08/24/2006, 09:07 AM

Marc,
coral looks better and have PE. I think u should be fine...Just dont dip it for a week or so. IME,coral like this will recover if u not gonna stress it more..Did u have a lot of AEFW on this coral?

mike

melev · 08/24/2006, 11:58 AM

Well, defining a lot is tough. I saw quite a few during the iodine test, but on the betadine dip I only saw a couple during the basting process. When 25 minutes was done, I pulled it out but there were none. Since they dissolve in that solution (apparently) I can't give you a number.

gflat65 · 08/24/2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ikatobiko
It has been 4 months that my tank has been acro free.
For new colonies (small frags) I am thinking that I will not treat for AEFWs but instead quarantine the new frags for a month minimum and inspect them for FWs. If I see worms, eggs or any damaged bald spots then I will treat them and quarantine for an additional month.

I still plan to treat with Interceptor for red bugs.

Has anyone been succesful using this quarantine type approach without treating with Levamisole or Betadine?

I've been doing something similar with TMPCC and have been (seemingly) AEFW free since March or April. I did the Levamisole treatment initially, which dropped me to about 5% of the original number of acros (but no AEFW...). All new additions (doesn't matter what genus they are) get a TMPCC dip upon arrival and get weekly dips after that for a month. If everything looks good, they get to move up to the east side.

Dejavu · 08/27/2006, 12:41 AM

well it been nearly a week since my last dip w/ betadine. All of my acros browned and i have lost two out of 23. none of the acros have very good PE and i am wondering weather betadine is any better than levamisole.

melev · 08/27/2006, 11:32 AM

The tips on my Tyree are starting to turn purple again, at the top 1/4" or so. The core is still golden brown.

melev · 08/27/2006, 09:22 PM

I see some color on this coral again. Just a bit.

Stoney Mahony · 08/28/2006, 10:48 AM

Ok, I think I have a wayyyyyy better treatment. Ill post pics, results and facts when I get home from work. No color loss so far in any corals accept where the aefw ate the tissue off..... Sorry for the tease!!!!!! Ill post later!

MSHUR · 08/28/2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stoney Mahony
Ok, I think I have a wayyyyyy better treatment. Ill post pics, results and facts when I get home from work. No color loss so far in any corals accept where the aefw ate the tissue off..... Sorry for the tease!!!!!! Ill post later!

NOOOOOOOOO, U cant do this to us..please,tell us about ur treatment at least

mike

Neptune777 · 08/28/2006, 11:07 AM

Tease! Please give us some details!

gflat65 · 08/28/2006, 12:21 PM

Stoney-if you keep teasing us like this, you will get a reputation

.lol

Wiskey · 08/28/2006, 12:44 PM

That Rules Stony, Ill be checking back when you get home.

Whiskey

08/22/2006, 05:17 PM	#176
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	Wow that doesn't look like the same coral at all . That dip took its toll but hey its ALIVE and looks as if it will make a good recovery. Also I will go out on a limb and say that if there are no other signs of them on other corals you might get lucky . I made the mistake of blowing the corals off in the display before removal . My wrasses got alot of them but not all of them so they were able to spread. I don't think they like to roam about on their own . __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/22/2006, 06:08 PM	#178
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	yellow Austera with purple/violet polyps. It's still a baby yet but it will be with me for a long time so I will let you know when the time comes. Just bug me every once in a while . __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/22/2006, 07:58 PM	#179
Sparkss Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oakley (94561) Posts: 5,030	I had (have) an Austera w/ bright blue polyps on the top 1 1/2" of the tips, then the rest were bright green/yellow. It is one of the survivors so far, but just barely holding on... __________________ - Tom Current Tank Info: 380 starfire inwall ,two 150g sump/fuge. Volcano Ca RX, ato, 6' Volcano skimmer. LAIIIs w/400w AquaConnect 14K on IC EBallasts

08/22/2006, 09:13 PM	#183
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	No I have seen them leave patches somewhat bare . Bit marks are from the lil ones and the biger areas are adults. Here are two adults that were on my avatar __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

08/22/2006, 09:54 PM	#185
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Marc, I've experienced the same in the past. Not sure if it was FW related or not. I tend to doubt so. When my AEFW's were all over the place I was not having this issue. Every time a coral has had this issue (polyps disappear leaving behind a hollow hole) the coral eventually died. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

08/22/2006, 05:20 PM	#177
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Hey clkwrk, what type of acro is that in your avatar? I think it needs to be in my tank.

08/22/2006, 08:32 PM	#180
Dejavu ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,423	So after read some of the results that other have got dipping w/ Betadine, I figured that i would give it a try. the first dip that i used in my QT process were with Levamisole. It seemed to kill the AEFW and i had no losts. My results w/ Betadine have been similar so far. AEFW were kill and no losts so far (only 5hrs have past). a few acro aren't looking so great be many have PE. I should be get two bottle of TMPCC next week and will be using it in my next dip.

08/22/2006, 09:08 PM	#182
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I've got a question for you guys regarding A. secale. Mine has been fading evenly all over the core and up most of the branches. Today as I was studying it closely, I saw some polyps extended while other areas I saw black holes where the polyps should show. This coral has encrusted on m the rockwork in a couple of directions. Does that match your AEFW experience, or is it only the oval bite marks that indicate there's a problem?

08/22/2006, 09:20 PM	#184
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Hmm. So my secale has a totally different issue going on perhaps. Of course it would. Why not just keep things simple for me?

08/22/2006, 11:12 PM	#186
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217

08/23/2006, 09:36 PM	#187
ikatobiko Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 109	New Frags It has been 4 months that my tank has been acro free. For new colonies (small frags) I am thinking that I will not treat for AEFWs but instead quarantine the new frags for a month minimum and inspect them for FWs. If I see worms, eggs or any damaged bald spots then I will treat them and quarantine for an additional month. I still plan to treat with Interceptor for red bugs. Has anyone been succesful using this quarantine type approach without treating with Levamisole or Betadine?

08/23/2006, 11:13 PM	#188
exoticaquatix Registered Member. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: baltimore, MD Posts: 536	the only tri-colors i ever had developed strange patches on them just like the pics posted by clkwrk above, the first one to show this immediately got tossed in the trash. i obviously panicked but it seemed to pay off. a few months later the secondv(A. Valida) frag started showing these marks so i fragged that in half and watched it for a week. this seemed to work until i moved my tank when the marks showed up again. this coral also met the same fate only i swished it in fresh water and noticed some very small AEFW in the bottom of the bowl. i have not seen any since (1 1/2 months)..... which leads me to yesterday when i found red bugs on my lokani! i guess my question is whether or not betadine is effective on both red bugs and AEFW should i decide to dip a colony or 2 if they start looking crappy. sorry for the long winded intro. -nick __________________ This dude either has two glass eyes or he's wearing his patch on the wrong sa-sa-sa-side. -Aesop Current Tank Info: 120gal 500w MH 10K XMs 30g sump, MSX-200 skimmer, vortech MP40w and Tunze nanostreams; 9 gal, 29gal FW planted tanks

08/24/2006, 01:24 AM	#189
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Nick, I don't know, but I have an A. granulosa with redbugs. I could try dipping it perhaps, and see if the bugs get upset enough to jump off. Here's a picture of the Tyree frag today, from the side.

08/24/2006, 09:07 AM	#190
MSHUR ugust 2011 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: brooklyn,ny Posts: 2,595	Marc, coral looks better and have PE. I think u should be fine...Just dont dip it for a week or so. IME,coral like this will recover if u not gonna stress it more..Did u have a lot of AEFW on this coral? mike __________________ Manhattan Reefs TOTM -August 2011 Current Tank Info: Reef Savvy crystal glass, Profilux network system,PS -Diuna T5-10 bulbs, BK SM-300

08/24/2006, 11:58 AM	#191
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Well, defining a lot is tough. I saw quite a few during the iodine test, but on the betadine dip I only saw a couple during the basting process. When 25 minutes was done, I pulled it out but there were none. Since they dissolve in that solution (apparently) I can't give you a number.

08/27/2006, 12:41 AM	#193
Dejavu ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,423	well it been nearly a week since my last dip w/ betadine. All of my acros browned and i have lost two out of 23. none of the acros have very good PE and i am wondering weather betadine is any better than levamisole.

08/27/2006, 11:32 AM	#194
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	The tips on my Tyree are starting to turn purple again, at the top 1/4" or so. The core is still golden brown.

08/27/2006, 09:22 PM	#195
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I see some color on this coral again. Just a bit.

08/28/2006, 10:48 AM	#196
Stoney Mahony Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 1,010	Ok, I think I have a wayyyyyy better treatment. Ill post pics, results and facts when I get home from work. No color loss so far in any corals accept where the aefw ate the tissue off..... Sorry for the tease!!!!!! Ill post later! __________________ "Don't these silly monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?" MJK "Free thinkers are dangerous!" Serj Tankian Current Tank Info: 45 g hex- 50 lbs LR, Softies, Clams, LPS, wet dry, berlin skimmer w/150 watt HQI. 55 g SPS- 90 lbs LR w/ 20 g caulerpa fuge, 35 g cheato fuge w/ 98w PC. 2x 400 watt XM 20k,Berlin XL skimmer, Intermatic timer on pumps for wave action

08/28/2006, 11:07 AM	#198
Neptune777 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,700	Tease! Please give us some details!

08/28/2006, 12:21 PM	#199
gflat65 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Montgomery, Al Posts: 8,720	Stoney-if you keep teasing us like this, you will get a reputation.lol __________________ Was it for this my life I sought... Maybe so Maybe not.

08/28/2006, 12:44 PM	#200
Wiskey Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fallbrook, CA Posts: 3,049	That Rules Stony, Ill be checking back when you get home. Whiskey __________________ This video shows 15 months of coral growth in my tank in a 30 second timelapse: https://youtu.be/bF6C57aTDEo