Hex magic water...

oneradtek202 · 07/24/2010, 06:39 PM

"edit:Gex"

yea..... really magical.....kinda more like torture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crLfR...eature=related

Scott48 · 07/24/2010, 06:46 PM

the clowns look sluggish, and tired..definately like torture.

TechStar · 07/24/2010, 06:50 PM

wow......im lost for words

dreaminmel · 07/24/2010, 06:58 PM

Wonder how much the manufacturer would like to live in a room full of helium.

wetbehindears · 07/24/2010, 07:01 PM

Why the $%&# would u want those ugly @$$ bug eyed goldfish in your beautiful salt water tank.

primmer · 07/24/2010, 09:06 PM

***

Who does that?
Another piece of s#%t item for the chain stores to sell

Seriously!!!???!!!!

superkat · 07/25/2010, 03:39 AM

time to organize a break out my reefer friends........

Gary Majchrzak · 07/25/2010, 05:16 AM

similar to Mollies they acclimate to saltwater. Examples can be seen locally.

GMaquarium · 07/25/2010, 06:19 AM

It's not saltwater that the goldfish are acclimated to, nor is it really fresh. I'm not a fan of this junk. Came across this a while ago.

Gary Majchrzak · 07/25/2010, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMaquarium

It's not saltwater that the goldfish are acclimated to, nor is it really fresh. I'm not a fan of this junk. Came across this a while ago.

x2

it's not novel and I'm not a fan. The water is brackish (ie: "not full strength seawater")

G- sending you a PM

GMaquarium · 07/25/2010, 07:45 AM

Although this stuff is magic and no smart magician ever tells. I don't think the water is brakish or even salty. So even if its not salt who is being deceived the fish or the fishkeeper. At any rate its not natural so right away I'm out.

Gary Majchrzak · 07/25/2010, 08:00 AM

G- you've acclimated (FW) Mollies to full strength seawater before, right?

GMaquarium · 07/25/2010, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Majchrzak

G- you've acclimated (FW) Mollies to full strength seawater before, right?

Yes I have. Remember the days we used to cycle reef tanks with molies. Most of the time the way back to fresh is much harder on them. One time I did a study on the leopard puffers. Had three of them in three ten gallon tanks, one salt, fresh and brakish. All three did great, ate same food and looked th same. After three or four months I got sick of taking care of them and acclimated all three to the brakish ten gallon. They did just as fine in that.

Now this gex magic water is different. Gary think about it from product marketing point. How can you sell brakish.

GMaquarium · 07/25/2010, 08:23 AM

Sorry double post

Gary Majchrzak · 07/25/2010, 08:36 AM

I didn't really study the Gex "magic water". Did they acclimate the clowns to FW? I mean.... I've seen that done before, too.

Still nothing new here........ is there?

GMaquarium · 07/25/2010, 08:46 AM

I don't really know. I would guess its a blend electrolytes and minerals maybe.

mr86mister · 07/25/2010, 09:35 AM

I see where you are coming from GM. This is a marketing idea coming out of Asia and will make people think they can go in and just purchase any fish and plop it into the water. Maybe it be a guppy or a trigger. People will be extatic to be able to mix the two with out really realizing the consequences. This is just another company looking to make a pretty penny. Mollies/Guppies can be acclimated but are found in brackish waters as well as some puffers. But have I seen clowns hanging out in the river behind my house? Seahorses maybe? No. The idea and scientific part is fascinating and I'm interested on reading up on it. These people are going to try to create a new marketing item and it's only going to boost the amount of fish taken out of salt/fresh bodies of water. I personally don't like this "magic water" idea. Giving it that name is a top marketing ploy. We'll see how far this thing goes.

TechStar · 07/25/2010, 10:31 AM

One of the post said it was sugar water?

Jmanrow503 · 03/02/2021, 01:00 AM

As explained by Bob Fenner, mixes like Wonder Water and Marine Magic did work, although the temperaments of freshwater and marine fish were not compatible.
Instead of using salts, the companies used a mixture of sucrose. A few more aggressive fish like cichlids did ok, but most freshwater fish were no match for the marine fish. Invertebrates would not survive in it.

07/24/2010, 06:39 PM	#1
oneradtek202 Pitcher Hill Reef Society Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N. Syracuse, NY Posts: 2,483	Hex magic water... "edit:Gex" yea..... really magical.....kinda more like torture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crLfR...eature=related __________________ -Brandon Current Tank Info: 100 gallon starphire display tank, 55gal Sump, Radium Lighting

07/24/2010, 06:58 PM	#4
dreaminmel Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Irondequoit, NY Posts: 4,758	Wonder how much the manufacturer would like to live in a room full of helium. __________________ ~Melanie~ Hiatus over, 120g in process "Ni lia duine na tuairim." (Everyone has their own opinion.)

07/24/2010, 07:01 PM	#5
wetbehindears Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: rochester ny Posts: 406	Why the $%&# would u want those ugly @$$ bug eyed goldfish in your beautiful salt water tank. __________________ 610g display tank (8ft x 4ft x 4ft ) 300g sump (90g refigum) Current Tank Info: alot

07/24/2010, 09:06 PM	#6
primmer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 103	***** * Who does that? Another piece of s#%t item for the chain stores to sell Seriously!!!???!!!!

07/25/2010, 03:39 AM	#7
superkat Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: rochester, ny Posts: 4,280 Blog Entries: 88	time to organize a break out my reefer friends........ __________________ “Sometimes it's necessary to go a long distance out of the way in order to come back a short distance correctly” ~ Edward Albee, The Zoo Story

07/24/2010, 06:46 PM	#2
Scott48 Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 154	the clowns look sluggish, and tired..definately like torture.

07/24/2010, 06:50 PM	#3
TechStar Moved On Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 62	wow......im lost for words

07/25/2010, 05:16 AM	#8
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	no big deal... really similar to Mollies they acclimate to saltwater. Examples can be seen locally. __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

07/25/2010, 06:19 AM	#9
GMaquarium Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rochester ny Posts: 1,670	It's not saltwater that the goldfish are acclimated to, nor is it really fresh. I'm not a fan of this junk. Came across this a while ago. __________________ Think globally, shop locally!!

07/25/2010, 07:45 AM	#11
GMaquarium Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rochester ny Posts: 1,670	Although this stuff is magic and no smart magician ever tells. I don't think the water is brakish or even salty. So even if its not salt who is being deceived the fish or the fishkeeper. At any rate its not natural so right away I'm out. __________________ Think globally, shop locally!!

07/25/2010, 08:00 AM	#12
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	G- you've acclimated (FW) Mollies to full strength seawater before, right? __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

07/25/2010, 08:23 AM	#14
GMaquarium Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rochester ny Posts: 1,670	Sorry double post __________________ Think globally, shop locally!!

07/25/2010, 08:36 AM	#15
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	I didn't really study the Gex "magic water". Did they acclimate the clowns to FW? I mean.... I've seen that done before, too. Still nothing new here........ is there? __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

07/25/2010, 08:46 AM	#16
GMaquarium Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: rochester ny Posts: 1,670	I don't really know. I would guess its a blend electrolytes and minerals maybe. __________________ Think globally, shop locally!!

07/25/2010, 09:35 AM	#17
mr86mister Saltaholic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 1,935	I see where you are coming from GM. This is a marketing idea coming out of Asia and will make people think they can go in and just purchase any fish and plop it into the water. Maybe it be a guppy or a trigger. People will be extatic to be able to mix the two with out really realizing the consequences. This is just another company looking to make a pretty penny. Mollies/Guppies can be acclimated but are found in brackish waters as well as some puffers. But have I seen clowns hanging out in the river behind my house? Seahorses maybe? No. The idea and scientific part is fascinating and I'm interested on reading up on it. These people are going to try to create a new marketing item and it's only going to boost the amount of fish taken out of salt/fresh bodies of water. I personally don't like this "magic water" idea. Giving it that name is a top marketing ploy. We'll see how far this thing goes. __________________ -Mike- Current Tank Info: I like turtles.....

07/25/2010, 10:31 AM	#18
TechStar Moved On Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 62	One of the post said it was sugar water?

03/02/2021, 01:00 AM	#19
Jmanrow503 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Sherwood, Oregon Posts: 2	As explained by Bob Fenner, mixes like Wonder Water and Marine Magic did work, although the temperaments of freshwater and marine fish were not compatible. Instead of using salts, the companies used a mixture of sucrose. A few more aggressive fish like cichlids did ok, but most freshwater fish were no match for the marine fish. Invertebrates would not survive in it.

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