DSPS Tank From Thailand (1000 gallons+)

[chasekwe]

One more question about your drain to the sump if you don't mind. I noticed in your old tank and this new one that the water line is kept above the level of the drains.

How is this done? Do you match the output of the pump to the capacity of the drains perfectly or some such? In a typical overflow system the water level in the display is regulated by the height of the overflow box. I'm sure whatever I'm missing must be obvious...

[chingchai]

Originally posted by kinlayan
Hi Ching an amazing build, some questions on that ozone reactor where does the ozone go in ? at the top does it exit out the middle? through the other little chamber?

Also i assume the water trickles in from the top and exits at the bottom? what flow rate is recommended in that reactor?

I have the same ozonizer as you but i run it in a cheap red sea protein skimmer and am considering the reactor option, obviously i assume all those blue fittings are ozone resistant as it degrades many plastics literally melting them over time

kinlayan. Thanks.

You are correct. Ozone in at the top and out in the middle of the little chamber.
Flow rate for reactor is 2,000-2,500 l/h.
Those blue fittings are ozone resistant.

[chingchai]

Originally posted by MN. Reef crzy
really like the equipement. How much of a wave to you inticipating in being able to create with the tunzes. Awesome build!!

You mean "anticipating". Right?
With 6 units of Tunze 6205 (Flow rate: 5,000 to 22,000 l/h (1,320 to 5,811 USgal./h))
and 6 units of Tunze 6305 (Flow rate: 9,000 to 30,000 l/h (2,377 to 7,925 USgal./h))

It must be pretty much of a wave in the tank.
More or less is also depending on how I adjust the wave controller.

[chingchai]

Originally posted by chasekwe
One more question about your drain to the sump if you don't mind. I noticed in your old tank and this new one that the water line is kept above the level of the drains.

How is this done? Do you match the output of the pump to the capacity of the drains perfectly or some such? In a typical overflow system the water level in the display is regulated by the height of the overflow box. I'm sure whatever I'm missing must be obvious...

You are right. The water line is above the level of the drain but not much.
I always choose over-spec return pump to control the water level in the tank. That's it.

[chasekwe]

Originally posted by chingchai
You are right. The water line is above the level of the drain but not much.
I always choose over-spec return pump to control the water level in the tank. That's it.

Wouldn't that flood the display or empty the pump container in the sump if the pump is constantly pushing more than the drains can handle?

[twinspots_goby]

Someone might asked before. How much would be the total cost just for the tank and equipments? I noticed that every piece I see here is the top of line product in the market.

[chingchai]

Originally posted by chasekwe
Wouldn't that flood the display or empty the pump container in the sump if the pump is constantly pushing more than the drains can handle?

No, it wouldn't.
Red Dragon pump features speed adjustable function mode.

[chingchai]

Originally posted by twinspots_goby
Someone might asked before. How much would be the total cost just for the tank and equipments? I noticed that every piece I see here is the top of line product in the market.

Cost of the tank is US$24k.
But total cost of equipments is something I don't want to calculate. Sorry.

[sunsetSPS]

you are surely tasting the right wine now Chingchai, enjoy drinking it.

[chingchai]

Originally posted by sunsetSPS
you are surely tasting the right wine now Chingchai, enjoy drinking it.

Thanks. I hope this is the best wine of my life.

[sunsetSPS]

Surely it's the great wine, but don't hope for the best just yet, should save the best for your next build thread, maybe 5-10 years from now.. LOL

[elijaher]

US$24k+. Skill while enjoying the good wine is priceless

[Julio]

wow, this is some project!!! best of luck, love the bubble king

[chingchai]

Originally posted by chingchai
kinlayan. Thanks.

You are correct. Ozone in at the top and out in the middle of the little chamber.
Flow rate for reactor is 2,000-2,500 l/h.
Those blue fittings are ozone resistant.

This is the diagram from ozone maker. Hope it will help.

[chingchai]

Originally posted by Julio
wow, this is some project!!! best of luck, love the bubble king

Julio. Thanks.

[dtech]

Very nice build gonna be amazing

[Jay Fortay]

Ching, will you please explain in a little more detail about your Red dragon adjustable speed mode, and how it knows what speed to pump at to keep the levels consistent?

Thank you.

[ccampbell57]

Ching - awesome build. Kudos to you!! I dream about the BK...skimmer porn

Can't wait to see the end product

[VegasReefer]

For a while I thought that Jay Fortay was beating a dead horse with a stick, then I reread the thread, and saw that there was no overflow weir.

I would assume that with the drain set up you have, it will still just be a simple matter of filling the tank to the overflows, then filling the sump to its max non-running level. ( IE what the max you want with the return pump off ). Turn on the pump, and mark how far down the water in the return section runs once it equalizes.

Doing quick math, your tank holds 24.93 Gallons per inch, From top of tank to mid point of your returns is 3.937 Inches. ( 10 cm ) Assuming you are using The largest common size metric PVC ( 90 MM ) that puts your lowest drain point at 5.7 inches .

This means your sump overflow capacity would need to be 142.3 Gallons ( Top of tank to bottom of overflows )

Since no one runs there tanks at the very edge We can take it down ~2 inches and remove 50 of those gallons from the mix. This would also give us the maximum size of the return chamber. The return chamber must be smaller than the amount of water displace if all return lines where clogged. This would be ~50 Gallons so a return section of less than 50 would be safe .

As long as the pumps flow is less than the returns maximum flow/2 there should never be any problem. 3.5 inch Shed 80 pipe has a max flow of ~170 Gal/min or 10200 gal/h Multiply that time the number of overflows ( 4 ) and we get a total capacity of 40800 gal/h. Since the pump does 13,208 Gal/h ( 50,000 LPH ) it will be well under the safety threshold of 20,400 Gal/h.

So in Conclusion:
Total sump capacity minus running water capacity = >93 Gallons
Total Sump return running capacity = < 49 Gallons

Ps. I take no resposibility for my math and converting Metric to Imperial measurements. The sooner the world realizes that the US is azbackwards and will never use an easy system like the metric system the better. ( BTW that was Sarcasm )

[chingchai]

Originally posted by Jay Fortay
Ching, will you please explain in a little more detail about your Red dragon adjustable speed mode, and how it knows what speed to pump at to keep the levels consistent?

Thank you.

I took video clip from ReefDepot booth at Aquarama for the operation of Red Dragon pump.
Hope this helps.
For the speed, I have to manually adjust to the proper level.

http://img190.imageshack.us/i/sdc11257.mp4/

[chingchai]

VegasReefer.
Thanks for your explanation.

[chingchai]

custom-made acrylic hanger for Tunze

[chingchai]

[chingchai]

Ballast box with two ventilation fans

[Ed Reef]

Nice.... I like the Wavebox holder idea !!